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Cadaver wrote:

dashrendar wrote:BOLS is reporting an october release date

LOUD NOISES!!!

Certainly, but loud noises that deliver, no less.

Makes some sense, we just got a loyalist relase (IG) so naturally a mutant traitor marine chapter should be next.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Makes some sense, we just got a loyalist relase (IG) so naturally a mutant traitor marine chapter should be next.

Space Wolves aren't traitors. -_-

This year is rather Imperial with Guard, Woofs and planetstrike mostly being Imperial stuff.

Wisp wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Makes some sense, we just got a loyalist relase (IG) so naturally a mutant traitor marine chapter should be next.

Space Wolves aren't traitors. -_-

Don't take the bait!

Argh, too late!!!

Wisp wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Makes some sense, we just got a loyalist relase (IG) so naturally a mutant traitor marine chapter should be next.

Space Wolves aren't traitors. -_-

Do they follow the sacred codex?
Do they keep their numbers below 1000 as commanded by the Emperor?
Are their sergants bald and screaming?
Are they free of mutation?

I think we know the answers to all of these.

Traitors and mutants the lots of them!

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Do they follow the sacred codex?

Nor do the Black Templars

Do they keep their numbers below 1000 as commanded by the Emperor?

Again the Black Templars don't.

Are their sergants bald and screaming?

I don't remember the Templars having Sergeants, but yes their vets are bald but with Goatees or mustaches , and they dont appear to be screaming rather mild mannered. Strange for a group of religious zealots.

Oh and the Space Wolves do have Screaming Sgt equivalents.

Are they free of mutation?

Yes actually.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Do they follow the sacred codex?
Do they keep their numbers below 1000 as commanded by the Emperor?

Um, both that book and that "command" were made after the Ascension of our Glorious Lord and Master, The Emperor, to his Eternal Place of Rest, The Golden Throne, therefore, they are not of His Glorious Commandants nor teachings. The Space Wolves do best to not follow such heretical ways.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Are their sergants bald and screaming?

They are screaming and they have an option to be mostly bald. None truly know if baldness was an Emperorial Commandant or another of the Codex Astartes's heresies.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Are they free of mutation?

Okay, I guess you got the Space Wolves on this one! Then again, many Chapters have mutations also, we need to purge them ALL!

*sigh* Alas for the Wolfie Russ.

A new pred? .... They're going from an ass kicking tank to an ass sucking tank? That don't sound very space wolves at all...

Unless it's a pred with 14/13/12 BS 4 and a vulcan megabolter... that might be acceptable.

Edit: and some sort of close combat attack and a 40k liter beer keg.

Huh? The SW are noted as mutants with their extra-big canines...

Wait couldn't all Space Marines be considered mutants? The codex states they are no longer human...

JohnHwangDD wrote:Huh? The SW are noted as mutants with their extra-big canines...

What does the size of their wolves have to do with the Space Wolves being mutants or not?

I just wish GW would leak out some useful rumors about this codex, it sounds like it might make a good choice to build a Deathwatch "army" out of.

Canines = teeth, not cuddly puppies. You know, the pointy ones in your mouth.

Rated G wrote:Canines = teeth, not cuddly puppies. You know, the pointy ones in your mouth.

Astounding Sherlock.

I hear there's a rule called "Argh, them tracks!" that makes any vehicle assaulted by a SW model automatically immobilized.

BaronIveagh wrote:*sigh* Alas for the Wolfie Russ.

A new pred? .... They're going from an ass kicking tank to an ass sucking tank? That don't sound very space wolves at all...

Unless it's a pred with 14/13/12 BS 4 and a vulcan megabolter... that might be acceptable.

Edit: and some sort of close combat attack and a 40k liter beer keg.

The reason they'd get rid of the Leman Russ Tank is pretty obvious. They can sell you more crap this way. The variant on the predator, and mark my words on this one, will have to do with an assault cannon or multi-melta... I can put money on it.

temprus wrote:I just wish GW would leak out some useful rumors about this codex, it sounds like it might make a good choice to build a Deathwatch "army" out of.

Well, so far, we've learned (to nobody's great surprise, I assume) that SW are losing their Looted IG Russ in favor of a properly SM Predator.

Next, one presumes that we'll have confirmation that SW will be getting even more 4E and 5E goodies added to their list!

Can you taste the anticipation building?

The variant on the predator, and mark my words on this one, will have to do with an assault cannon or multi-melta... I can put money on it.

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but isn't there a certain red garb SM chapter that has a similar configuration? Hmmm......

Blood Angels with their Baal pred with twin linked asscans and two heavy flamers.

I don't know why you guys worry...

The pattern is getting pretty clear after IG. It's consistent codex creep. The SWs will be "totally broken."

And I'm not complaining. I like codex creep, it keeps mixing up the metagame, and it keeps people interested and buying new armies.

Phryxis wrote:I don't know why you guys worry...

The pattern is getting pretty clear after IG. It's consistent codex creep. The SWs will be "totally broken."

And I'm not complaining. I like codex creep, it keeps mixing up the metagame, and it keeps people interested and buying new armies.

As long as they aren't immune to wounds from Str 10, AP1, I'm happy.

Hows about a 5 point 3++? THey have that now if Im not mistaken.

Ratbarf wrote:Hows about a 5 point 3++? THey have that now if Im not mistaken.

Pack leaders can indeed get 5 point SS's. HQ's really get the shaft at 10 points.

BaronIveagh wrote:

Phryxis wrote:I don't know why you guys worry...

The pattern is getting pretty clear after IG. It's consistent codex creep. The SWs will be "totally broken."

And I'm not complaining. I like codex creep, it keeps mixing up the metagame, and it keeps people interested and buying new armies.

As long as they aren't immune to wounds from Str 10, AP1, I'm happy.

I agree. The power level has fluctuated alot over recent additions (see Chaos champions from 3rd Edition) and Wolves should be better than everyone else. I mean look at them!

The drink alot, they are cranky and dont adhere to the strict Codex guidelines, they are sorta like Australians, they shouldnt be better, but they just are!

Guys...

Please keep the discussion on point, and move any background debates to the appropriate forum.

Thanks!

Perfect timing, I'm making some Asian themed space marines with a penchant for martial arts close combat and using ferocious dragon warriors. Space Wolves should fit well as my counts as rules.

Chewy wrote:

The drink alot, they are cranky and dont adhere to the strict Codex guidelines, they are sorta like Australians, they shouldnt be better, but they just are!

SW aren't anything like Australians, SW are actually cool, Australians not so much. But thats niether here nor there because everyone knows they are viking marines, duh!

I'm hearing word of a new pred. variant on the other sites any got any info?

Pure speculation but I imagine the new Pred will be a multi-melta/Melta-cannon or an Exterminator Autocannon.

Would love a Punisher Cannon variant though.

Fluff wise, I dont see why the SW have to loose their Leman Russ... Its named after their damn founder!

And it would sell more of the new LR models they are launching for IG.

But see, that would make sense....

combatmedic wrote:Fluff wise, I dont see why the SW have to loose their Leman Russ....

Other than the fact that they couldn't fit into it you mean ? It's supposed to be cramped and uncomftable for normal humans, there's no way that armoured marines would be able to fit in there.