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Ork tek is advancing or is at least better, the older ork codexs had guns up the wazzu( taken out cuase the slowed the game), secondly orks do produce supplies they just need a slave base and a large war like we are talking about would provide that.
And the vibe I am getting from the fluff is that the longer the war the better the orks are at thier given role. Thats my opion(spelling).
Secondly ork tek works better if you ask me if a valve blows on a human ship the tech priest's go on a five min rant on how the machince spirt is pissed and they have to fix it, while on an ork ship it wouldnt matter.
Also you can exterminatius a planet but they are survivable, tryanids have done it and orks spores would just have to be deep enough to make it through the fire storm and start tarraforming the planet, for lack of a better way to explain it. Also the lack of a orginazed stucture is almost a advatage for the orks because if one warboss losses contact with the horde he still will fight forward, while a guard leader would either sit or try to carry out new order he made up causeing a break down of comunications.
also meks can learn they only have basic tec knowledge in thier genes, this is still a advatage on a human who has to grow before the learn anything, or the capability to learn.
finaly orks do have legit space travel they are in my opinion showing some smarts and taking human ships for themselves, it cuts out the time to make a new ship, they can really only loose a fleet if you whip it out completly and can hold you new turf.

^Yup^

I can't be the only one who remembers the days when I could field Heavy Plasma guns in Squads of Boyz, fit Multi-Meltas to buggies, and Ork dreadnoughts with Lascannons?

I do miss those days a bit, but I have to admit the new orky style, with 'big shootas' or 'kustom/mega blastas' is more fitting the Orks.

It is annoying though when people have a dig at Orks or Ork players due to the nature of the Orks. I mean it's not like they are the only 'simple' faction.

Orks - fight for fun, because they are 'hard wired for it'

Tyranids - are as simple as it gets, they're just a plague of Locusts in WH40K form

Chaos - fight for their own (or their God's) pleasure. Nurgle - inflicts disease for a giggle. Khorne - not much different from the Orks. Slaanesh - exists for pleasure and decadence. Tzeentch - plays games with mortals for fun.

The good guys always win.

wuestenfux wrote:The good guys always win.

Im sorry this isnt a 40k novel and its not written by Ben counter

Lord-Loss wrote:

wuestenfux wrote:The good guys always win.

Im sorry this isnt a 40k novel and its not written by Ben counter

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Orks can't stand up to MULTILAZORS.

Okay, when Orks 'shed' I'm pretty sure that only a fraction of those grow to b e orks. Firstly, becuase most die or end up as gretchin, and secondly they aren't combat ready they moment the drop off an ork.

When people say that Orks are the most numerous race, I'm assuming that that's including gretchin and snotlings, yes?

Women and Children vs Snotlings and Gretchin?
Women and Children win.

Acctuley orks are combat ready the second the pop up and gretchin could easly take women and children the runt hearders would do it.

Emperors Faithful wrote:Okay, when Orks 'shed' I'm pretty sure that only a fraction of those grow to b e orks. Firstly, becuase most die or end up as gretchin, and secondly they aren't combat ready they moment the drop off an ork.

When people say that Orks are the most numerous race, I'm assuming that that's including gretchin and snotlings, yes?

Women and Children vs Snotlings and Gretchin?
Women and Children win.

Orks are more numerous than Gretchin and Snotlings. When you think about it, more of the little 'uns would be used to maintain vehicles and stuff, so they'd only be very numerous in big clans or in Kults of Speed.

Grots would cut swathes through women and children, not to mention family pets. They're the ultimate weapon.

Well I don't doubt that Orks would be tough, but I just feel that after they took a world or two they would all start squabling over it killing each other giving the imperials time to get organized. Also orks don't seem to have to most efficient way of getting from planet to planet and especially are not effective at actually targeting significant planets. On the other hand I feel the imperium would have a big enough strategic advantage to overcome most tactical disadvantages they have.

Orkeosaurus wrote:Grots would cut swathes through women and children, not to mention family pets. They're the ultimate weapon.

My dog would fething own your Grots. Greyhound power for the win.

That wouldn't be a fair fight, how is a grot supposed to kill a bus? They're huge.

Orkeosaurus wrote:That wouldn't be a fair fight, how is a grot supposed to kill a bus? They're huge.

The same way a Guardsman kills an Emperor Titan.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

Orkeosaurus wrote:That wouldn't be a fair fight, how is a grot supposed to kill a bus? They're huge.

The same way a Guardsman kills an Emperor Titan.

Multi-lazors?


Seriouly though. Women and children wouldnt fight grots. Imagine a tiny green man with a gun walks in and grabs your mum by the hair shoots her in the head and then kills the entire family.

Grots have guns and average citizens dont (There isnt America in 40k)