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Brother Heinrich wrote:

Melissia wrote:Not to justify TWC, but these aren't Terran Wolves. These are Fenrisian Wolves.

So your saying they have rigid spines? once again look up your biological facts before you try to refute mine.

So you have detailed biological facts about Fenrisian Wolves?

(the answer is no, by the way)

This is just more of a point of Interest, but I think it is relevent here.
Calvary will be around as long as figured out it was better to ride horses than eat them.
Currently in Afganastan US Special Forcers are using Horses. Infact the last US Cavalry Charge was in 2001.
I think if we found Rhino sized Wolves we would do one of a few things and maby more than one.
1] Kill them all
2] Tame them and use them for show
3] After a long night of Drinking try to ride them.

Anpu42 wrote: Infact the last US Cavalry Charge was in 2001.

I think you're pulling my leg. As the interwebs say: Pics or it didn't happen!

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

Anpu42 wrote: Infact the last US Cavalry Charge was in 2001.

I think you're pulling my leg. As the interwebs say: Pics or it didn't happen!

It was US Special Forces during Operation: Anaconda along with the Afgans.

who were they fighting? french children?

I still haven't seen pics.

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:who were they fighting? french children?

I still haven't seen pics.

They said they did it.

Who would have taken the Picks? The Taliban?

But back on subject

I lkie all of the Fuffy good Fluffyness of the Space Wolves. My only Complaint it that there is no Offical TWC Mini's.

I see no Hypocracy with the Rune Priest, they are the Space Wolves Rune Priest, I would see it if thier Rune Priest followed the normal Marines style, but they Don't.

Thank you wraithlord; as a U.S. marine fighting in the war I find the idea of horses in Afghanistan inconceivable and as a helicopter mechanic (MODERN day cavalry) very impractical and unbelievable if not suicidal or idiotic. AND no you are not missing the point my only point is the hypocrisy of the space wolves hatred of psykers yet having the most powerful in the game, and hatred of mutants yet being mutants themselves. It all cries hypocrisy. But those are the only 2 things, don’t know how much more simply I can put it.

Fiction does mean in fact "not real" or "imaginary" so take your pick. So to argue the pointlessness of arguing fluff defeats your own point...good job.

Lets say they have fused mechanical spines or because they are "super cool fenrisian wolves" they have fused spines. This still makes it impossible for them to be effective killing machines and little better than horses which are useless in modern day warfare let alone the 41st millennium. You can argue the power of future technology and genetics but the facts are physics and biology says that a 1 or 2 ton man can’t sit on a fang rhino and fly across the battlefield like Zorro and still be combat effective. Just not going to happen. Just another GW sucker feeding off the over the top epicness they hope you will to convert a stupid illogical model to put in a stupid cheese/fur covered army so you can win tournaments and gain a fraction of self esteem.

The space wolves are a cool army and I understand loyalty to army and philosophy of such, I just cant agree with what GW has turned the Awesome space Vikings into for commercialism. Dudes riding wolves, witches shooting lighting across an entire battlefield, and mutant werewolves with D6 attacks...whatever. Like my brother Hienrich said "they wud hav wun cuz theyz da bestist mahreens in da hol wide galaxy"...Drop the act fanboys, the wolves are still cool, they just got sold out. Admit it.

All Marines are mutants anyway given that they deviate so strongly from human genetic code just by BEING Astartes.

Sigh..., theres no getting around it, everyone has fluff they dislike, but arguing that a whole army has been destroyed just because of some bad fluff seems pointless to me.If the new codex ruined SW for you, fine, but it didn't for most of us. Don't say they completely suck now just because you don't like it.

Are you guys seriously going to point out the same three things wrong with the fluff over and over again just to make a point? Everyone here is nitpicking IMO.Its like the people who complain about the refridgerator part in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, yeah it made no sense, but who cares, did you even watch the good parts of the movie?

All I'm saying is, there's some good and bad fluff in every codex. There's always something that someone hates. Let it go, you'll feel better.

Snikkyd wrote:

.Its like the people who complain about the refridgerator part in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, yeah it made no sense, but who cares, did you even watch the good parts of the movie?
.

there were good parts?


Any way laughing god, the mark of the wulfen represents someone who's going feral right? and it's been around since the last 'dex. What has changed? As I recall it came from failure of the canis helix and, while distasteful, not caused by the taint of chaos which is the mutation they are really concerned about. When it comes to mutation within loyalist legions they are a bit more forgiving. Case in point was a bit of fluff from the Raven Guard index astartes article entitled "legend of the weregeld" in which Corax's attempts to quickly bring his legion back to fighting strength following the Istvaan massacre resulted in mutant abominations which were once let loose on the field of battle in death company fashion. the only friendly witnesses: the Space Wolves. Who did they tell about this gross infraction? not a soul. Cool story if you can find it.

Apart from physiology of the wolves the marines look like they are riding those kiddie rockers you see at supermarkets if you don't have a sufficiently big mount.

Even if it is fantasy for me there has to be some plausibility. Guess my suspension of disbelief threshold is fairly low. Brazen nipples I can understand. 8 foot superhumans clad in power armour on canines is another matter.

But the 40K universe is a big place and we don't need to be as dogmatic as the Imperium and impose beliefs

Anpu42 wrote:
Currently in Afganastan US Special Forcers are using Horses.

Osama wants pics.

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

there were good parts?

No. You must have been watching some other movie.

Given the terrain why wouldn't you use horses and mules.

While I understand why people argue, I think the answers would be:

Rune priests: either not enough playtest at GW or they where too busy how cool it was to realize how broken it could be.

Fenrisian wolves: they look fething cool, and that's it. No fused spines, broken spines or spines at all, it's pure and simple "rule of cool".

Just occured to me that it might not be possible for a Space Marine to mount anything in power armour (oo-er missus!) let alone a giant wolf.

Would they be able to get their lrg over (oo-er again, oo do behave!)

well since we're now simply arguing cool, I'll say that the Iron warriors are probably the best loyalist chapter in the Imperium.

Well, they're the most caring about safety, you know, placing those "warning" stripes on all that might be hazardous.

Someone here, can't recall who, said that he imagined the doors of their vehicles with "mind your head" signals xD

Hopefully this will inspire someone who reads this thread to build an Iron Warriors army with saftey signals, hard hats and Work in Progress-Slow Down signs for objectives.

Emperors Faithful wrote:Hopefully this will inspire someone who reads this thread to build an Iron Warriors army with saftey signals, hard hats and Work in Progress-Slow Down signs for objectives.

holy jesus thats a great idea, I know what I'm doing this weekend.

Don't forget to give the Lord a Lollipop sign.

well alot of my stuff is already modelled in a much more sinister tone, however I like the idea of objective markers being construction related, you know stuff like 'hard hat area' and 'marines at work' and whatnot, maybe a cement mixer or wheel barrow full of tools lol

Three of my Space Wolf Objective Markers are
1] Stick
2] Ball
3] Squirrel

lol

But surely they would mark objectives themselves with a cocking of the leg Anpu

I'm thinking I should model an orange cone rack for both of my rhinos as well

Anpu42 wrote:Three of my Space Wolf Objective Markers are
1] Stick
2] Ball
3] Squirrel

Congratulations, You are sigged!

Brother Heinrich wrote:I'm thinking I should model an orange cone rack for both of my rhinos as well

Perhaps you could expand your army with a Sound Marine Squad named 'Men at Work'?

Caution: slippery when blood stained.

Brother Heinrich wrote:

Melissia wrote:Not to justify TWC, but these aren't Terran Wolves. These are Fenrisian Wolves.

So your saying they have rigid spines? once again look up your biological facts before you try to refute mine.

NO, because they're ginormous. A baby can ride a German shepard flexible spine or not.

Babies can't ride German Shepherds
They lack the motor skills and cognitive ability to saddle them up.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Babies can't ride German Shepherds
They lack the motor skills and cognitive ability to saddle them up.

not the smart ones.