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CT GAMER wrote:So Raiders to be totally redesigned or is the one in that pic simply artistic license do we think?

I thought I heard that they might get redesigned?

They're getting a new kit, I'd expect them to change as much as any other model in the DE range.

I am certainly keen to see what a brand new Jes Goodwin range is going to look like.

That alone is what's attracting me to the idea of Deldar as a second 40k army.

Yeah, I personally dislike pretty much all of the current Dark Eldar models, the new stuff could be really very interesting...

Maybe a Brain-Blessed related picture to celebrate the biggest Wargaming news for a while?!

He has already graced this thread with a most excellent picture.

Any hope of getting something like the Black Reach box for the Dark Eldar? It was nice getting a lot of my marines in an easy to assemble form. If I do go through the effort of actually using DE models, I'd like it to be a fast and easy process.

HAHAHAHAHAHA so GW finally decided to do it

I havent bought a GW product for nine months. I think this is my time to break that streak

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I am certainly keen to see what a brand new Jes Goodwin range is going to look like.

Yeah, this!

When was the last time he had a major input/output for a line?

4th edition skaven? He designed the whole range pretty much .. probably some of the only really GOOD models from that era

Then of course 5th and 6th ed skaven were a total disaster

The monkey Skaven were horrible, but the recent stuff isn't bad at all.

It will be interesting to see what the codex really is and if all the rumors are even close.

KPCommissar wrote:Any hope of getting something like the Black Reach box for the Dark Eldar? It was nice getting a lot of my marines in an easy to assemble form. If I do go through the effort of actually using DE models, I'd like it to be a fast and easy process.

WOW you really try to have a second go in the same thread trolling excelence!

Nice that they finally are coming these Dark Eldar. Now we can laugh at the new models in thongs instead of the old ones .
Nah im actually very glad i will most likely be alive when the Dark Eldar hit the stores.

Cheers all

Excellent. Doesn't sound anywhere near an entire new range though. Not enough excitement.

Iron Angel wrote:WOW you really try to have a second go in the same thread trolling excelence!

No, I'm not trying to "have a second go", and I'm not trolling. I honestly do feel that the proxy thing is a valid thing, but I won't continue that discussion here (will probably make a thread for it or something.)

Back to my recent post, I do think that the Black Reach box was a good way to get people into the game. I play both IG and Marines (check my sig), but the work needed to put the guard together was honestly pretty annoying. I don't see what's wrong with wanting something that's quick and easy to assemble and play with that still looks good.

Plus, new models are expensive (as I'm sure everyone would agree.) If they did something like the Black Reach box with its' massive savings/discount for Dark Eldar, it'd make collecting the new army a lot easier.

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:It does make me chuckle that they never actually mention a new codex, just new 'Dark Eldar'.

I'm still grinning like a Cheshire cat.

My thoughts exactly

"Six plastic boxed sets plus two metals" doesn't sound like an entire new range to you?

Consider the WHFB Empire boxes. The Empire State Troops and Crossbowmen box sets alone account for five different army list entries between the two boxes.

Six plastic boxed sets is absurdly close to an entire range, depending on how it's setup.

Ravager or Raider could be one complete plastic boxed set, which knocks down two army list entries.
Wyches could easily incorporate parts to also make Mandrakes.
Warriors could probably incorporate parts to make anything similar to them(depending on how the army list entry is. Because we don't know what's in there yet).
Hellions could be used, potentially, to make either Hellions or with some creativity--whatever the Dark Eldar equivalent to Jump Troops is.
Jetbikes, of course, are probably going to be their own thing.

That's just going by what we've had "confirmed" by reliable sources. Warriors, Wyches, Hellions, Jetbikes, Raiders and Ravagers(which make sense, since it's a metal/plastic hybrid kit now).

But noone seemed sure if Raiders and Ravagers were going to be one kit or two.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:It does make me chuckle that they never actually mention a new codex, just new 'Dark Eldar'.

I'm still grinning like a Cheshire cat.

My thoughts exactly

Right. I'm still holding my breath. "Some brand-new Dark Eldar" doesn't make any mention of a codex. Usually, the Codex is the first thing that gets mentioned, iirc.

Kanluwen wrote:"Six plastic boxed sets plus two metals" doesn't sound like an entire new range to you?

Consider the WHFB Empire boxes. The Empire State Troops and Crossbowmen box sets alone account for five different army list entries between the two boxes.

Six plastic boxed sets is absurdly close to an entire range, depending on how it's setup.

Ravager or Raider could be one complete plastic boxed set, which knocks down two army list entries.
Wyches could easily incorporate parts to also make Mandrakes.
Warriors could probably incorporate parts to make anything similar to them(depending on how the army list entry is. Because we don't know what's in there yet).
Hellions could be used, potentially, to make either Hellions or with some creativity--whatever the Dark Eldar equivalent to Jump Troops is.
Jetbikes, of course, are probably going to be their own thing.

That's just going by what we've had "confirmed" by reliable sources. Warriors, Wyches, Hellions, Jetbikes, Raiders and Ravagers(which make sense, since it's a metal/plastic hybrid kit now).

But noone seemed sure if Raiders and Ravagers were going to be one kit or two.

Sounds pretty tasty

Oh! Well, I meant Gw's attitude didn't seem excited enough to warrant an entire new range. I wouldn't be totally surprised if this ends up in a "Half november-Half december" sort of thing, and we end up waiting for the next wave.

I can see: The Raider, Warriors and something metal getting released first, then everything else afterwards.

Darth Bob wrote:

Just Dave wrote:
So how much info are we expecting to scrounge from Games Day then?

Well usually we expect nothing. This is an unprecidented turn of events where GW actually wants to tell us what they've been up to.

Well, you must remember now that it's getting close to the release date for DE and WFB has had its few months as the center of attention in the GW universe, GW wants to tell us all about the new 40k army so we open our wallets and hand over the cash. Which I'm more than happy to do.

I expect we see a whole lot of the DE 1st wave probably followed shortly by pre-orders on GW in their 'Eavy Metal glory to get people drooling. They've kept it under wraps very well until now, with this announcement I'm sure the floodgates will open at GDUK. I will be parked at my desk on the 26th for most of the afternoon I'm sure, hopefully with jaw rested comfortably on my keyboard.


EDIT: So this is the new thing now? Since GW confirms DE are coming people are going to claim, "they never said it was a codex release" and, "it's probably just a few boxes - maybe." Seriously, guys, for whatever reason you still don't believe it - just stop. You just look foolish at this point.

KPCommissar wrote:Any hope of getting something like the Black Reach box for the Dark Eldar? It was nice getting a lot of my marines in an easy to assemble form. If I do go through the effort of actually using DE models, I'd like it to be a fast and easy process.

DE would be considered models for experience player, who don't mind the effort. So it's not going to happen.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Oh! Well, I meant Gw's attitude didn't seem excited enough to warrant an entire new range. I wouldn't be totally surprised if this ends up in a "Half november-Half december" sort of thing, and we end up waiting for the next wave.

I can see: The Raider, Warriors and something metal getting released first, then everything else afterwards.

Think again.

This is something that they can afford to be secretive with. Just the fact that something new has been announced is amazing news. They don't have to do the 6 month window here.
They can be as secretive as they want, and yet people still claim they will buy it(whatever it will be).

I'm willing to guess that they'll do most of the Dark Eldar range as one huge release in November, with supplementary content in December and January.

Kanluwen wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Oh! Well, I meant Gw's attitude didn't seem excited enough to warrant an entire new range. I wouldn't be totally surprised if this ends up in a "Half november-Half december" sort of thing, and we end up waiting for the next wave.

I can see: The Raider, Warriors and something metal getting released first, then everything else afterwards.

Think again.

This is something that they can afford to be secretive with. Just the fact that something new has been announced is amazing news. They don't have to do the 6 month window here.
They can be as secretive as they want, and yet people still claim they will buy it(whatever it will be).

I'm willing to guess that they'll do most of the Dark Eldar range as one huge release in November, with supplementary content in December and January.

Yeah, that makes sense too

I mean, people have been waiting for almost 14 years now, soo....

This is where the punters have it all wrong.
We should DEMAND to know or threaten not to buy!

Guess we just have to wait until GayDayUK
*twiddles thumbs*


*drums keyboard with fingers*


the suspense is killin' me already.
JUST SHOW SOME PICS DAMMIT!

YES!

I don't even play Dark Eldar, but now with their new codex I can proudly say that Marines won't be next!

Now if they could get started on my Necrons please...

Hokiecow wrote:

KPCommissar wrote:Any hope of getting something like the Black Reach box for the Dark Eldar? It was nice getting a lot of my marines in an easy to assemble form. If I do go through the effort of actually using DE models, I'd like it to be a fast and easy process.

DE would be considered models for experience player, who don't mind the effort. So it's not going to happen.

Yeah, of course DE would never be considered for a starter box.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:

Hokiecow wrote:

KPCommissar wrote:Any hope of getting something like the Black Reach box for the Dark Eldar? It was nice getting a lot of my marines in an easy to assemble form. If I do go through the effort of actually using DE models, I'd like it to be a fast and easy process.

DE would be considered models for experience player, who don't mind the effort. So it's not going to happen.

Yeah, of course DE would never be considered for a starter box.

Being ironic, right?

YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Would be fun if the printed Codex is on display at Games Day UK, which is before 10th October
Would also be fun if JohnHwangDD would use the won dollar to buy the Dark Eldar Codex.
Anyway, most GW shops will have the Dark Eldar Codex on display in October, not all before 10th October though.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Excellent. Doesn't sound anywhere near an entire new range though. Not enough excitement.

We know for years that the whole range is resculpted. November wave consists of:

Codex
6 plastic boxes (Warriors, Wyches, Raider, Ravager, Hellions and most certainly Reaver jetbikes)
3 metal boxes (most certainly mandrakes, Incubi and a third unknown one)
3 metal blisters (including HQ/characters)
a specialty item

A 1.5 and second wave will follow next year.

So don't get fooled by this I-work-at-GW-Nottingham-and-found-out-about-the-new-Dark-Eldar-release-by-reading-WD marketing crap. GW has its own rules not allowing for proper marketing, not even for big risky releases.

I just finished revising my DE armylist =(
Anyways, about time. visit commorragh.proboards.com *cough *cough

Hokiecow wrote:DE would be considered models for experience player, who don't mind the effort.

Nope.