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poontangler wrote:

IvanTih wrote:

Mr Nobody wrote:*snip*

The Tau in the Jericho Reach region are the closest we've got to a look at what life can be like under the Tau at its worst.

Forced sterilisation, indoctrination camps, people disappear when they express discontent, and either don't reappear, or reappear as brainwashed cheerleaders.

The Tau use subject species as test subjects for dangerous enviroments, rather than risking the lives of Tau, and in one situation are basically firing off ships with subject race pilots into the stellar equivalent of an industrial potato peeler.

Secret labs with Nazi style medical experiments and "psychological" testing as well.
Not so good now.

Actually I read up something very similar to this, and it should be noted that most of these accusations are the result of Imperial Propaganda.

Ever heard of Nimbosa genocide?
Provide evidence that it's a result of an Imperial Propaganda.

It's also unfair to leave out that the Tau Commander did go against the policy of the Tau there, it wasn't the Ethereals that ordered (or condoned this course of action).

While the Tau may inflict atrocities at some time or another against the defeated (as history will show almost any invader commits injustices), we can only say God help the Tau civilians if the Imperium ever had them at their mercy.

Emperors Faithful wrote:It's also unfair to leave out that the Tau Commander did go against the policy of the Tau there, it wasn't the Ethereals that ordered (or condoned this course of action).

While the Tau may inflict atrocities at some time or another against the defeated (as history will show almost any invader commits injustices), we can only say God help the Tau civilians if the Imperium ever had them at their mercy.

What about Jericho Reach sunshine or Sons of Dorn.

There is a bunch of fluff that has the IoM being tolerant to Xenos, and much of the "destroy Xenos on sight" policy was because Xenos were - overall - *icks?

Remember that in Horus Rising, Horus was leading some diplomacy to join a non-human (or at least non-entirely human) faction into the budding Imperium, that there've been diplomatic missions on Eldar worlds, that Jokaero are constantly sought-out for digital weapons...

Heck, there's even a short story wherein a guy in the Imperial Guard points out that the IoM doesn't really bother with Aliens unless they prove a threat, or they have something on their world that the IoM wants (note this was Pre-4th Ed). You find an alien world in bum*uck nowhere with some aliens on it and no real appetizing facts for the planet, you just write down "Planet Bum*uck #2071, Primitive Xenos", and move on.

Sadly GW will always try to recon this,but again 40k has no real canon policy except for BL Heretical Tomes it's canon.

Not familiar with any Tau atrocities throughout the Jericho Crusade (even after visiting the website) and I haven't read Sons of Dorn (nor do I intend to, I try to avoid books starring Space Marines like the plauge).

IvanTih wrote:Heck, there's even a short story wherein a guy in the Imperial Guard points out that the IoM doesn't really bother with Aliens unless they prove a threat, or they have something on their world that the IoM wants (note this was Pre-4th Ed). You find an alien world in bum*uck nowhere with some aliens on it and no real appetizing facts for the planet, you just write down "Planet Bum*uck #2071, Primitive Xenos", and move on.

Yes, you've summed up the Imperium policy to a T. I never disputed this. But have the Imperium ever taken Tau prisoners of war?

Selective reading may disable to folllow a story when its told in codices and BL books as you're missing parts of the story.

The IoM may take a few subjects for the adeptus biologis to study.

General policy is to kill ALL unwelcome tresspassers into IoM space, so they won't take POW from non-human species, except the few handed/taken to/from the
ordo xenos and/or Ad bio.

Imperial forces tend to remove the xenos filth from Imperial worlds as best as possible.

Absolutely. To not do so is to invite Chaos and death. Now to elaborate further on your original post, a thousand souls are sacrificed to the Emperor, yes, but most go willingly; it is an honor to die in this way. To grace the Emperor's divine will before passing is a blessing. And this is not done lightly - without their noble sacrifice, interstellar travel would cease - untold thousands of worlds would be cut off and left to die to the Enemies of Man. As the infernal Tau would say, it is for the greater good.

Goddard wrote:Absolutely. To not do so is to invite Chaos and death. Now to elaborate further on your original post, a thousand souls are sacrificed to the Emperor, yes, but most go willingly; it is an honor to die in this way. To grace the Emperor's divine will before passing is a blessing. And this is not done lightly - without their noble sacrifice, interstellar travel would cease - untold thousands of worlds would be cut off and left to die to the Enemies of Man. As the infernal Tau would say, it is for the greater good.

Yes, it is a very utilitarian thing. The Tau would se it as justifiable I think.

however quoting a tau slogan said could get you killed.

Ledabot wrote:however quoting a tau slogan said could get you killed.

It's for the Greater Good of Mankind!

Execution is to proceed at 0800 hours.....