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Monster Rain wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:You have a thread in which an individual exhibits and expresses some identifiable level of emtional distress and what is a pretty clear call for help and half the responses are lame jokes and jabs at his expense. Do the math.

There's a lot of good advice in this thread. Did you actually read it?

Hence the "half"part. try to follow along...

As much fun as you seem to have being pedantic, let's get at the root intention of your original statement. You were saying that this forum isn't a good place to look for advice because people make "lame jokes" and whatnot. I'm saying that the OP got plenty of good advice and maybe a laugh or two out of the deal. The tie dye pajamas were hysterical.

Advice on music, gaming, movies, harmless/irrelevant topics, etc.: sure.

Advice on serious issues effecting one's life (depression, mental illness, medical issues, etc.): not so much.

Your mileage may vary...

FITZZ wrote:

Shuma Gorath wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:Asking gamers how to not be "creepy" is like asking alcoholics how to not drink: not the best idea (especially on an internet forum which tends to bring out the self-titled comedians and internet cool guys) ever...

Seriously, I think your issue might be mild to moderate depression. Perhaps call a hotline or seek out a local therapist for advice.

This comment honestly makes me wonder,do "gamers" really have such a low opinion of their fellow "gamers"?
I'm honestly not attempting to troll here...I've pondered this for a few years and it still perplexes me when I see comments like "asking gamers for advice about women/not being creepy/any normal social activity/etc,is a waste of time."
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact I didn't discover "Wargames" until I was 30 that this viewpoint seems ...counterproductive to me...but I honestly don't get why attitude that "gamer=socially incompetent goof" seems to be so strongly held by some "gamers".

That's probably because most gamers are socially incompetent goofs.

Perhaps in some cases,but since I started gaming I've met a lot of perfectly "normal" individuals,they have girlfriends/wives,active social lives,work "normal" jobs,participate in sports,musical projects...what have you.
The only "strange" thing about them is they take time now and again to paint and game with little toy soldiers.

Then you either live a charmed life or your standards are kinda low.

Shuma Gorath wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Shuma Gorath wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:Asking gamers how to not be "creepy" is like asking alcoholics how to not drink: not the best idea (especially on an internet forum which tends to bring out the self-titled comedians and internet cool guys) ever...

Seriously, I think your issue might be mild to moderate depression. Perhaps call a hotline or seek out a local therapist for advice.

This comment honestly makes me wonder,do "gamers" really have such a low opinion of their fellow "gamers"?
I'm honestly not attempting to troll here...I've pondered this for a few years and it still perplexes me when I see comments like "asking gamers for advice about women/not being creepy/any normal social activity/etc,is a waste of time."
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact I didn't discover "Wargames" until I was 30 that this viewpoint seems ...counterproductive to me...but I honestly don't get why attitude that "gamer=socially incompetent goof" seems to be so strongly held by some "gamers".

That's probably because most gamers are socially incompetent goofs.

Perhaps in some cases,but since I started gaming I've met a lot of perfectly "normal" individuals,they have girlfriends/wives,active social lives,work "normal" jobs,participate in sports,musical projects...what have you.
The only "strange" thing about them is they take time now and again to paint and game with little toy soldiers.

Then you either live a charmed life or your standards are kinda low.

It could be a combination of the two...but then again I don't expect every individual I come in contact with to be as brilliant as you Shuma.

ShumaGorath wrote:Then you either live a charmed life or your standards are kinda low.

I don't think that having a well-adjusted gaming group is necessarily either of those things.

Most places I've been seem to be like any other group of guys that gather to do something; the majority are more or less average dudes with a couple of wingnuts sprinkled in to make it more interesting. Unless you're talking about Flames of War. Those cats are strange.

Monster Rain wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Then you either live a charmed life or your standards are kinda low.

I don't think that having a well-adjusted gaming group is necessarily either of those things.

Most places I've been seem to be like any other group of guys that gather to do something; the majority are more or less average dudes with a couple of wingnuts sprinkled in to make it more interesting. Unless you're talking about Flames of War. Those cats are strange.

Maybe the east coast of the U.S. is more worse for wear then the rest of the country.

IME RPGs and wargamers still attract socially awkward guys who want a hobby where they can exercise their brains (whether or not they're particularly intelligent).

Most of the guys I know and associate with who play GW games are grown adults with families, jobs, and average or above social skills, though. That may in part be because I'm getting older, and those are the guys I hang out with.

"Gamer" is becoming an almost meaningless term as a category, since it's been co-opted by people who play videogames. Which is getting to be everyone.

Kanluwen wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:Yeah, get a peacoat. They look kinda fancy but don't make the ladies wonder if you're about to flash them.

Or make the general populace look at you like you might have a bomb/guns under your coat.

I AM THE MAD BOMBER WUZ BOMBS AT MIDNIGHT!


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This comment honestly makes me wonder,do "gamers" really have such a low opinion of their fellow "gamers"?

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Monster Rain wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:You have a thread in which an individual exhibits and expresses some identifiable level of emtional distress and what is a pretty clear call for help and half the responses are lame jokes and jabs at his expense. Do the math.

There's a lot of good advice in this thread. Did you actually read it?

Why are people assuming we want him to get better?

Monster Rain wrote:
Don't forget the projection of "gamer self-loathing" onto other gamers! That seems to come up pretty often as well.

This is really starting to sound like you're trying blame the victim here.

Frazzled wrote:Why are people assuming we want him to get better?

So that we can eat him!

rubiksnoob wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:
Don't forget the projection of "gamer self-loathing" onto other gamers! That seems to come up pretty often as well.

This is really starting to sound like you're trying blame the victim here.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Then you either live a charmed life or your standards are kinda low.

I don't think that having a well-adjusted gaming group is necessarily either of those things.

Most places I've been seem to be like any other group of guys that gather to do something; the majority are more or less average dudes with a couple of wingnuts sprinkled in to make it more interesting. Unless you're talking about Flames of War. Those cats are strange.

Maybe the east coast of the U.S. is more worse for wear then the rest of the country.

Where do you do most of your gaming, Shuma? Because I think that plays a part, at least, it does here. Generally, I find GW stores to be absolutely toppers with a colourful (and fragrant) array of freaks. I made the mistake of playing there a couple of times. Never again. Ye gods.... the smell.

On the flipside of that, I went to a Dakka UK meet-up a few months ago and everyone was just... normal. And it's not like these guys aren't dedicated gamers - we're talking about men who traveled a couple of hundred miles to play man-dollies in the home of GW, Warhammer World. I'm guessing the normal folks just play at home with their mates, or in a small local gaming club.

YMMV, as ever.

FITZZ wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:Asking gamers how to not be "creepy" is like asking alcoholics how to not drink: not the best idea (especially on an internet forum which tends to bring out the self-titled comedians and internet cool guys) ever...

Seriously, I think your issue might be mild to moderate depression. Perhaps call a hotline or seek out a local therapist for advice.

This comment honestly makes me wonder,do "gamers" really have such a low opinion of their fellow "gamers"?
I'm honestly not attempting to troll here...I've pondered this for a few years and it still perplexes me when I see comments like "asking gamers for advice about women/not being creepy/any normal social activity/etc,is a waste of time."
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact I didn't discover "Wargames" until I was 30 that this viewpoint seems ...counterproductive to me...but I honestly don't get why the attitude that "gamer=socially incompetent goof" seems to be so strongly held by some "gamers".

I started off as a nerd. It was really the only thing I looked forward to every day, be it video or board games at first then CCGs and RPing when no adults were around (since it's evil and all). From there I learned to be socially active and have grown into a very social being, so the games aren't the root of the problem IMO. There are awkward people in other hobbies, I just think lots of other hobbies tend to be more social.

CT GAMER wrote:Advice on music, gaming, movies, harmless/irrelevant topics, etc.: sure.

Advice on serious issues effecting one's life (depression, mental illness, medical issues, etc.): not so much.

Your mileage may vary...

I think good advice is good advice regardless of source, and I haven't seen a high level of jeering here in particular. I know a joke can sometimes make the truth easier to swallow, so as long as it's not hate speech I think it's fine. I do agree about the depression though and I'm surprised only two of us have suggested it.

On the subject of gamers, me and my two main gaming buddies are both normal, but there are a lot of weirdos running around. Guys with long fingernails (gag), hair past their shoulders, massive guts, just creepy...

The ponytails are what gets me.

Gaming stores always seem to have an extremely high concentration of men with ponytails.

It depends on the person, really. Did they grow their hair into a stately mane like Mannahnin? Then its not a problem.

Is it a greasy wad of stinky hair tied back with a bit of butcher's twine because getting it cut takes up too much WoW time? That's a problem.

Monster Rain wrote:It depends on the person, really. Did they grow their hair into a stately mane like Mannahnin? Then its not a problem.

Is it a greasy wad of stinky hair tied back with a bit of butcher's twine because getting it cut takes up too much WoW time? That's a problem.

I don't think I've ever seen a male ponytail that wasn't nasty.

Steven Segal has a ponytail.

Your argument is invalid.

Monster Rain wrote:Steven Segal has a ponytail.

Your argument is invalid.

Steven Segal is a disgusting pig.

Vaya con Dios.

Amaya wrote:On the subject of gamers, me and my two main gaming buddies are both normal, but there are a lot of weirdos running around. Guys with long fingernails (gag), hair past their shoulders, massive guts, just creepy...

There's a difference between being "Creepy nasty" and simply not " Conforming to the general Norm" though,someone with long hair...that's CLEAN,dressed in black,wearing a band t-shirt or what have you ,doesn't IMO qualify as "Creepy nasty",particularly if their mannerisms are those of the "average" guy.
For me "Creepy Nasty" is defined by smelly,sullen,reclusive individuals who seem incapable of carrying on a conversation about anything other than their little plastic men.

Long fingernails and BO qualify as creepy nasty in my book.

Albatross wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Then you either live a charmed life or your standards are kinda low.

I don't think that having a well-adjusted gaming group is necessarily either of those things.

Most places I've been seem to be like any other group of guys that gather to do something; the majority are more or less average dudes with a couple of wingnuts sprinkled in to make it more interesting. Unless you're talking about Flames of War. Those cats are strange.

Maybe the east coast of the U.S. is more worse for wear then the rest of the country.

Where do you do most of your gaming, Shuma? Because I think that plays a part, at least, it does here. Generally, I find GW stores to be absolutely toppers with a colourful (and fragrant) array of freaks. I made the mistake of playing there a couple of times. Never again. Ye gods.... the smell.

On the flipside of that, I went to a Dakka UK meet-up a few months ago and everyone was just... normal. And it's not like these guys aren't dedicated gamers - we're talking about men who traveled a couple of hundred miles to play man-dollies in the home of GW, Warhammer World. I'm guessing the normal folks just play at home with their mates, or in a small local gaming club.

YMMV, as ever.

So fething true. One of the reasons why I never actually set foot into GW stores.

Amaya wrote:On the subject of gamers, me and my two main gaming buddies are both normal, but there are a lot of weirdos running around. Guys with long fingernails (gag), hair past their shoulders, massive guts, just creepy...

Considering the overweight or long haired as creepy must leave you very few people to interact with.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Amaya wrote:On the subject of gamers, me and my two main gaming buddies are both normal, but there are a lot of weirdos running around. Guys with long fingernails (gag), hair past their shoulders, massive guts, just creepy...

Considering the overweight or long haired as creepy must leave you very few people to interact with.

Ah, did I make your belly sad?

Amaya wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Amaya wrote:On the subject of gamers, me and my two main gaming buddies are both normal, but there are a lot of weirdos running around. Guys with long fingernails (gag), hair past their shoulders, massive guts, just creepy...

Considering the overweight or long haired as creepy must leave you very few people to interact with.

Ah, did I make your belly sad?

Not really, and I can always diet, you however will be you for life, so I guess that makes your mother sad.

I'm sure she'd chime in here but her mouth is probably full.

Fafnir wrote:

Albatross wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Then you either live a charmed life or your standards are kinda low.

I don't think that having a well-adjusted gaming group is necessarily either of those things.

Most places I've been seem to be like any other group of guys that gather to do something; the majority are more or less average dudes with a couple of wingnuts sprinkled in to make it more interesting. Unless you're talking about Flames of War. Those cats are strange.

Maybe the east coast of the U.S. is more worse for wear then the rest of the country.

Where do you do most of your gaming, Shuma? Because I think that plays a part, at least, it does here. Generally, I find GW stores to be absolutely toppers with a colourful (and fragrant) array of freaks. I made the mistake of playing there a couple of times. Never again. Ye gods.... the smell.

On the flipside of that, I went to a Dakka UK meet-up a few months ago and everyone was just... normal. And it's not like these guys aren't dedicated gamers - we're talking about men who traveled a couple of hundred miles to play man-dollies in the home of GW, Warhammer World. I'm guessing the normal folks just play at home with their mates, or in a small local gaming club.

YMMV, as ever.

So fething true. One of the reasons why I never actually set foot into GW stores.

There are no GW stores in my state, but the described situation pretty much covers every FLGS I've ever been in anyway.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Amaya wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Amaya wrote:On the subject of gamers, me and my two main gaming buddies are both normal, but there are a lot of weirdos running around. Guys with long fingernails (gag), hair past their shoulders, massive guts, just creepy...

Considering the overweight or long haired as creepy must leave you very few people to interact with.

Ah, did I make your belly sad?

Not really, and I can always diet, you however will be you for life, so I guess that makes your mother sad.

I'm sure she'd chime in here but her mouth is probably full.

Insert herpes joke here?

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Amaya wrote:On the subject of gamers, me and my two main gaming buddies are both normal, but there are a lot of weirdos running around. Guys with long fingernails (gag), hair past their shoulders, massive guts, just creepy...

Considering the overweight or long haired as creepy must leave you very few people to interact with.

Few Gamers*

ShumaGorath wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Amaya wrote:On the subject of gamers, me and my two main gaming buddies are both normal, but there are a lot of weirdos running around. Guys with long fingernails (gag), hair past their shoulders, massive guts, just creepy...

Considering the overweight or long haired as creepy must leave you very few people to interact with.

Few Gamers*

In the USofA, as I have witnessed so far, Few People...

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Amaya wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Amaya wrote:On the subject of gamers, me and my two main gaming buddies are both normal, but there are a lot of weirdos running around. Guys with long fingernails (gag), hair past their shoulders, massive guts, just creepy...

Considering the overweight or long haired as creepy must leave you very few people to interact with.

Ah, did I make your belly sad?

Not really, and I can always diet, you however will be you for life, so I guess that makes your mother sad.

I'm sure she'd chime in here but her mouth is probably full.

1) You should work on your reading comprehension
2) You should stop being so defensive about your weight on internet forums to people you don't even know
3) Remove stick from butt and calm down

But the fact I made you e-rage for no reason makes me warm and fuzzy inside.

Amaya wrote:

But the fact I made you e-rage for no reason makes me warm and fuzzy inside.

Then you should get out more.