New Grey knights Lord Kaldor Draigo fluff broken ... ?

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**Retrias**

Draigo seems to be the new
"totally not a daemon prince"

**DAaddict**

GW: "Hey I know we have made a lot of armies uncompetitive but let's update a fluff fringe army to make it broken and competitive in all situations."
GW #2: " Well we have the grey knights - dedicated to taking on demons."

GW #1: " Cool let's make them and screw the tau and necrons for another 3 to 6 months. Let's laugh at the growingly uncompetitive Dark Angels, Eldar and Orc players!!"

GW #2: " Speaking of which, I think it's about time we start thinking of 6th ed so we can do the blind redo of SM and IG and frustrate those non-competitive codex players even more!!"

Sorry for the rant but this one really frosts me.

**pretre**

Thanks for bringing more codex creep whining into a thread in the background forum. :(

As for the DP claims, I doubt it. I think it is far more likely that he is still pure but is being toyed with by the Chaos Gods.

**Laodamia**

pretre wrote:Thanks for bringing more codex creep whining into a thread in the background forum. :(

As for the DP claims, I doubt it. I think it is far more likely that he is still pure but is being toyed with by the Chaos Gods.

You mean the Chaos Gods actually like what he's doing.

Why not, after all.

It might be slaanesh that gave him the oil to burn nurgle's garden. It could also be Khorne that showed how how to blow up tzeentch's city.

**pretre**

Good call, Lao.

I had thought of them just messing with Draigo, but even better would be they could point him in the direction of the other god's domains through misdirection.

**skrulnik**

I read the Draigo entry and the only thing that didn't work for me was the Mortarion part.

So my justification to make it work is that Mortarion pulled a Davey Jones.
He keeps his organs elsewhere.
Possible all of them are kept in Canopic jars like the Egyptian mummies.
That identifies with a Lord of Death idea in my head.

So all Draigo had to do was find the place it was kept and get his carve on.
He probably didn't even have to confront Mortarion.

The rest of the story is kinda cool.
He thinks he accomplishes all these things in the Warp, but they are undone as soon as he moves on.
That and the expelling from the warp only to be pulled back in after victory.
The way the Warp works, the amount of time he thinks has passed could be unimaginable.

If you think about it for a minute, he is the embodiment of 40k.
Endless war, with little changing, even the year is static.

**Dark Apostle 666**

"Derpgo has no justifiable reason to be so awesome. He is just stupid, but since he is in print and here to stay...

I hope ward catches the Chaos bug and updates a chaos character called Doom Rider. Who when he ran over and mortally wounded a Grey knight was told "I curse you to rot upon terra for eternity."

So Doom Rider jumps back into in the warp and is spat out on terra, Where he proceeded to smash his way into the throne room carves 'Fulgrim' on the emperor's chest, then he destroys a number of hives and kills million of terra's defenders. So much so that even the custodes are now afraid of him.

He also finds and kills Leman Russ in a drinking contest cause you know Slaanesh trumps wolf wolf drinking abilities. Occasionally he finds a way off terra but it is only temporary because Grey Knight (Sue) cursed him. No matter what he does he will eventually end up back there to do donuts, kill people, ejaculate plasma and shout nananana COCAINE!

So am I hired?"

+1 to this, you get my vote!
I back the idea of draego being an unwitting pawn of the dark gods, but beating mortarion? That made me angry...

**asimo77**

Well if Ward keeps this up in his Necron Codex we'll see a Necron Lord ripping off Draigo's arm and using it to beat down an entire SM chapter. Then he uses the power armour of the dead marines to fuse a half-ceramite half-necrodermis space motorcycle which he flies straight into Terra's sun causing it to explode. Then he starts a rock duo with Dante.

**Generalian**

skrulnik wrote:I read the Draigo entry and the only thing that didn't work for me was the Mortarion part.

So my justification to make it work is that Mortarion pulled a Davey Jones.
He keeps his organs elsewhere.
Possible all of them are kept in Canopic jars like the Egyptian mummies.
That identifies with a Lord of Death idea in my head.

So all Draigo had to do was find the place it was kept and get his carve on.
He probably didn't even have to confront Mortarion.

The rest of the story is kinda cool.
He thinks he accomplishes all these things in the Warp, but they are undone as soon as he moves on.
That and the expelling from the warp only to be pulled back in after victory.
The way the Warp works, the amount of time he thinks has passed could be unimaginable.

If you think about it for a minute, he is the embodiment of 40k.
Endless war, with little changing, even the year is static.

EXACTLY! couldn't have said it better myself

**Inquisitor Mordacious**

ChronoCupcake wrote:
wib wrote:
ChronoCupcake wrote:who or what is this Matt Ward you speak off ?

Depending on who you mean he is one of 2 things:

a). A very poor writer for GW who has a liking for outragously over-the-top fluff, recently responsible for the Blood Angels codex.

b). A very bitter 40k player who's fed up of sharing the same name as the the aforementioned writer, mostly due to all the animosity that's expressed towards the name, i.e. me.

Zing

But in all honesty what was so wrong with the Blood angels codex besides Dante suddenly having developed the emotional angst issues of a teen Jrpg protagonist and the Sanguinor being one of the lamest ideas for a hero ever, well actually that does sound kinda cheesy but not as broken as Kaldor Draigo and the dreadknight and this is just the first wave !, at this rate Draigo will turn into some kind of internet meme or oh dear lord imagine Draigo inside a dreadknight ... bricks will be shat ...

I dont mind them making space marine characters EPICALLY powerful.
It just makes it more of a fail when one of my meagre guardsmen kill him with a lucky lasgun shot.

Thought of the Day: If at first you don't succeed, then you fail! Unless you are Chuck Norris.

**BeefCakeSoup**

While I'm not a fan of Ward..

GKs needed Draigo the way he currently is.

1000 Grey Knights vs the Galaxy. Even in tabletop the poor guys are outnumbered. They need something that gives them in fluff and tabletop a hero to stand against overwhelming odds.

Is he too extreme? Well, for an order that is pretty much as above a Space Marine as a Space Marine is above a regular human there better be a good reason why. Draigo is the reason why.

**goggari**

**Manchu**

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