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unbeliever87 wrote:

BlkTom wrote:I think that is an illegal army, as taking a unit as a troop choice doesn't count as troops for a force chart organization. For example, those nobs could not capture an objective as they are really not troops. You can take one unit as a troop allows you to now field 5 nob squads (with two warbosses) instead of the normal 3, not take elites as nothing but troops.

Of course they are, and of course you can. That's how Nob Biker lists work.

And Space Marines bike lists.
And Dark Eldar Hellion lists.
And Ravenwing/Deathwing.

You are correct, I take back my statement. It was explained to me as such so I did not look into it very closily till now. Thank you for the correction.

BlkTom wrote:I think that is an illegal army, as taking a unit as a troop choice doesn't count as troops for a force chart organization. For example, those nobs could not capture an objective as they are really not troops. You can take one unit as a troop allows you to now field 5 nob squads (with two warbosses) instead of the normal 3, not take elites as nothing but troops.

"Lord of Formosa
Inquisitorial Henchmen warbands are Troops choices in an
army that includes Inquisitor Torquemada Coteaz, and are
not limited by the number of Inquisitors in your army."

DE

Decapitator - 140
10 grotesques - 350
10 grotesques - 350
6 warriors - 54
5 warriors - 45
4 mandrakes - 60
Total of 999

The HQ has to come in from reserve and cannot attach to any of the squads. The grotesques, while being big and strong have crappy leadership and every turn if they roll 1 - they go beserk and hit everything nearby - and then are gone. So before they even get to assault anything there is a good chance that at least one of the squads will be off the table, possible damaging other squads on the way out.

Aun'va

anything else. It really doesn't matter, because it is already ruined. Aun'va. Andy Hoare how dare you!

HQ
Warboss 60

Warboss 60

Troops
3 Nobz 60

3 Nobz 60

Battlewagon dedicated transport 90

Battlewagon dedicated transport 90

Heavy Support

Battlewagon 90

Battlewagon 90

Battlewagon 90

Elites

3 Nobz

3 Nobz

Battlewagon dedicated transport 90

Battlewagon dedicated transport 90

Total of 990 points.

I actually think this list would be pretty brutal in Seize ground or capture and control.

8 AV14 Tanks to deal with at 1k would cause most of the rubbish armies so far posted some serious problems. Heck even decent armies could struggle. Sure you'd have to play eldar style (reserve everything and avoid a fight until turn 5 and tankshock all the objectives to win), but played well this army could do quite well 2 out of 3 games.

Doomseer - 80
6 Warlocks w/ embolden, enhance - 170

Avatar - 155

5 Pathfinders - 120

5 Pathfinders - 120

Fire Prism 115

Fire Prism 115

Nightspinner 115

total: 1000 pts

Wuestenfux - again I feel that list could be played well. Why have you got enhance on the Seer Council? Take it off its actually quite useful. Granted Doom's not a huge benefit to the army that will largely be wounding on 2+ and your troops are paper thin if the enemy gets close to them. But if they do then you've got a serious counter punch in the Avatar and Seer Council. Likewise 2 Fire Prisms are actually pretty good.

Plus how can you have a deliberately bad Eldar army without Shining Spears?

FlingitNow wrote:Wuestenfux - again I feel that list could be played well. Why have you got enhance on the Seer Council? Take it off its actually quite useful. Granted Doom's not a huge benefit to the army that will largely be wounding on 2+ and your troops are paper thin if the enemy gets close to them. But if they do then you've got a serious counter punch in the Avatar and Seer Council. Likewise 2 Fire Prisms are actually pretty good.

Plus how can you have a deliberately bad Eldar army without Shining Spears?

Well, its actually a playable Eldar army which eventually performs below average.

Baneblade x 2 - 1000pts

Sorceror Lord wit
2x 5 man marine squads with icon....

Greater Deamon,
MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF Lessr DAEMONS!

you kill 11 marines first two turns and instant loss!
beat that

pretty sure I made an all khorne list in the past

For my worst army:

Hameonculus 50

95 wychs lol

Sorceror Lord wit
2x 5 man marine squads with icon....

Greater Deamon,
MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF Lessr DAEMONS!

you kill 11 marines first two turns and instant loss!
beat that

Don't take the icons and the list is even worse!

FlingitNow wrote:

Sorceror Lord wit
2x 5 man marine squads with icon....

Greater Deamon,
MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF Lessr DAEMONS!

you kill 11 marines first two turns and instant loss!
beat that

Don't take the icons and the list is even worse!

*shrugs* It is also unplayable without a icon, and it has already been listed. Kinda to easy, like a Madboy and all Grot army. You see the 'worse unit of the army' hoard list on every page (so it feels). Then you see stuff like this...

Primaris Psyker
Ogryns, 10
Vets, plasma pistol, power fist, vox, 2 plasma, hvy flamer, lascannon, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions x 2

The only wasted points are the Voxs. In a 1k game that list, if played by a skilled player, could give /good/ lists serious trouble. As someone pointed out eariler, having a bad list and playing it bad are two differnt beasts. Any army can lose if you refuse to shoot. Making a list that can field 1000pts but has a hard time winning despite the player's best efforts... those are the truily worst army lists.

How about a tournament?

Entrants bring a 1000 point army, thats legal and not ridiculous (all daemons no icons ect.)

All entrants randomly exchange armies (cannot end up with your own).

All entrants play to best of abilities with opponents random army, person who own the last placed army is the winner!!

Its the only way to find out!

Heh... that is true, probably is the only way to find out. ;-)

A GK Henchman list

Coteaz - 100 pts

6x Warrior Acolytes - 414 pts
- 2x Power Fists
- Power Armour
- Melta Bombs

7x Warrior Acolytes - 483 pts
- 2x Power Fists
- Power Armour
- Melta Bombs

997 pts

69 points per warrior of suck
Can you kill 13 footslogging marines?

I think it would be compelling to have a "worst of" list compilation for each army, voted on by Dakka members, and then hold a tournament where you'd bring your models, build one of the worst of lists posted when you enter, and TRY AND WIN.
This would truly be a testament to ones generalship.