The most idiotic thing...

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**purplefood**

Revenent Reiko wrote:
Sir Pseudonymous wrote:
Revenent Reiko wrote:

Spoiler:

the 'string of gibberish' was the Deamons true name, which (when spoken so soon after his entry into this plane) destroyed him/it.
it would have been transcribed phonetically, thats the point of an alphabet, you can use letters to make sounds.
the 'ramblings of a warp-maddened traitor' were exactly the opposite of that! The whole point was that she wasn't a traitor but only Alaric realised that and trusted her.it.

Technically repeating it scared it into laying down so he could poke it with a meter of pointy metal that had somehow managed to kill it before.

Something can't be phonetically transcribed if it contains sounds outside the system's description, and the Inquisitor was killed before finishing it regardless; in all likelihood such a thing would have been transcribed merely as "[unintelligible gibbering]".

Given the limited knowledge he possessed and his in-universe perspective, there was exactly no reason to trust her at that point.

There is a reason i put that in a Spoiler tab. it is a Spoiler for people who haven't read it.

Spoiler:

Actually it gave the speaker control over the Daemon (but spoken straight after its entry into our world weakened it considerably) and he used the Master-Crafted Nemesis Force Weapon of a GK Grand-Master which had been used to banish it before (the point being it was not a normal sword and there was a reason that particular sword was used, even though part of that reason was that it would allow the Daemon entry into our plane of existence).

How do you know the capabilities of an Inquisition transcriber? A sound is not necessarily unintelligible/non-transcribeable. It may not make sense in our language, but it would have been meticulously copied down by the Malleus Servitors the same as any other 'heretical' ramblings just in case it may be useful.

Thats the whole point, you don't expect him to trust her, but he does because of his knowledge of her. And using that trust and the knowledge gained from her, he defeated the Greater Daemon, id say that trust was well placed.

Spoiler:

**Revenent Reiko**

purplefood wrote:
Revenent Reiko wrote:
Sir Pseudonymous wrote:
Revenent Reiko wrote:

Spoiler:

the 'string of gibberish' was the Deamons true name, which (when spoken so soon after his entry into this plane) destroyed him/it.
it would have been transcribed phonetically, thats the point of an alphabet, you can use letters to make sounds.
the 'ramblings of a warp-maddened traitor' were exactly the opposite of that! The whole point was that she wasn't a traitor but only Alaric realised that and trusted her.it.

Technically repeating it scared it into laying down so he could poke it with a meter of pointy metal that had somehow managed to kill it before.

Something can't be phonetically transcribed if it contains sounds outside the system's description, and the Inquisitor was killed before finishing it regardless; in all likelihood such a thing would have been transcribed merely as "[unintelligible gibbering]".

Given the limited knowledge he possessed and his in-universe perspective, there was exactly no reason to trust her at that point.

There is a reason i put that in a Spoiler tab. it is a Spoiler for people who haven't read it.

Spoiler:

Actually it gave the speaker control over the Daemon (but spoken straight after its entry into our world weakened it considerably) and he used the Master-Crafted Nemesis Force Weapon of a GK Grand-Master which had been used to banish it before (the point being it was not a normal sword and there was a reason that particular sword was used, even though part of that reason was that it would allow the Daemon entry into our plane of existence).

How do you know the capabilities of an Inquisition transcriber? A sound is not necessarily unintelligible/non-transcribeable. It may not make sense in our language, but it would have been meticulously copied down by the Malleus Servitors the same as any other 'heretical' ramblings just in case it may be useful.

Thats the whole point, you don't expect him to trust her, but he does because of his knowledge of her. And using that trust and the knowledge gained from her, he defeated the Greater Daemon, id say that trust was well placed.

Spoiler:

Alaric also didn't kill the daemon... It actually says that most of the damage was done by the guardsmen.

I stand corrected on that point purplefood.

**Jordan**

Getting this bad boy back on topic:

Imperial Armor fluff is some of the stupidest crap I've ever read. Can we get an Imperial victory that doesn't make King Pyrrhus look like he went 99 and 1? And what the

is up with treating the Elysians like a punching bag? They lost to Tau and Orks? In a lightening raid? Their specialty? Really? Y'know, taking monstrous casualties, fine. Airborne units typically go unsupported and a lot of people die. That fits their fluff to a T. But come on, Forge World, throw the Elysians a bone and give them a hard-fought victory and not this endless string of BS defeats. The way they write this garbage, it seems like they can't even put their pants on the right way!

Have you guys read the little blurb about 'famous' Elysian regiments? Two thirds of them are listed as having been wiped to a man in battle. I can't be the only one pissed at that.

**earth-star**

Spoiler:

please tell me I'm not the only on who thinks this.

**Hlaine Larkin mk2**

earth-star wrote:

Spoiler:

the ultramarines movie. There's just so much fail, between the graphics and story.

please tell me I'm not the only on who thinks this.

Spoiler:

**Skalk Bloodaxe**

Has anyone ever wondered why Latin is so prevalent in the 41st Millennium?

**Grass4hopper**

Because the Ultramarines are the best at everything, including speaking dead languages.

**UselessSage**

reds8n wrote: That's not actually why the Soul Drinkers went renegade at all I'm afraid.

See http://www.blacklibrary.com/Exclusive-Products/Collectors-Editions/Daenyathos.html ( if you ever can) for full details.

Even if it was i don't really see or why the hubris of a mortal is a "stupid" reason for a chapter to be declared rogue.

I am now half way through the 3rd Soul Drinkers book. Imma update my opinion here.

Perhaps the most idiotic thing in WH40k are the Soul Drinkers novels.

I will keep soldiering on though. I made it all the way through Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, I can do this.

**thenoobbomb**

samtheking wrote:Tau getting close to winning. thats a laugh.

yes, it is.

**crocodoom**

The emporer

Because

Rules!!

**IvanTih**

Kanluwen wrote:*snip*

The round did hit the Cardinal.

**Brother Coa**

The fact that Inquisition is watching everyone and that no one is watching over Inquisition?

**SagesStone**

It's actually kind of explained in the Inquisition trilogy a tiny bit. In it it basically said to pretty much everyone the Inquistion they know is just the Ordo Hereticus. Ordo Malleus apparently look over the Ordo Hereticus Inquisitors from time to time with the Hereticus Inquisitors not even aware of their existence. I guess the Inquisitor Lords from the Ordo Malleus would watch over the normal Malleus Inquisitors as it mentioned something about the Inquisition having many hidden circles within itself.

**purplefood**

Brother Coa wrote:The fact that Inquisition is watching everyone and that no one is watching over Inquisition?

The Inquisition watches itself...

**Brother Coa**

Then who is watching the Inquisition who watch over Inquisition?

**Nerivant**

Brother Coa wrote:Then who is watching the Inquisition who watch over Inquisition?

The Ordos Inquisitus.

**purplefood**

Brother Coa wrote:Then who is watching the Inquisition who watch over Inquisition?

The Inquisition does that to.

**Brother Coa**

So the Inquisition is watching over Inquisition, who watch over Inquisition.

**purplefood**

Brother Coa wrote:So the Inquisition is watching over Inquisition, who watch over Inquisition.

Yeah pretty much...
Although they are also watched by the Inquisition...

**Brother Coa**

purplefood wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:So the Inquisition is watching over Inquisition, who watch over Inquisition.

Yeah pretty much...
Although they are also watched by the Inquisition...

Now I am confused

Who is watching over that Inquisition?

**purplefood**

Brother Coa wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:So the Inquisition is watching over Inquisition, who watch over Inquisition.

Yeah pretty much...
Although they are also watched by the Inquisition...

Now I am confused
Who is watching over that Inquisition?

The Inquisition...

**Brother Coa**

See why is this so idiotic....

**purplefood**

Brother Coa wrote:See why is this so idiotic....

Not really... pretty sensible, everyone watches each other so if anyone goes renegade they can kill them.

Thud by Terry Pratchett wrote: "Who watches the Watchmen?"
"I do"
"Ahh but who watches you?"
"I do that too"

**Psienesis**

Basically, outside of the Inquisition, *no one* watches over the Inquisition. That is their mandate from the God-Emperor, Himself. The Inquisition holds 2 people free from suspicion of heresy: The Emperor and the Adeptus Custodes. Every other man, woman, and child, from Chapter Master to Planetary Governor down to the lowliest slave, is subject to the Inquisition's authority.

**Juvieus Kaine**

I always find that when the Tau spot a potential ally that helps them out, gives them massive praise, then find out they've been doubelcrossed the horrible nasty gruesome way

Case 1): Dark Eldar lead by Urien help fend off Nids I think with the Tau. Tau are happy. Urien asks for people, Tau oblige. Next battle the DE turn up with Blue Wracks and Grotesques

Case 2): Tau vs Nids again IIRC. Necrons wake up and kill the Nids. Tau have a party. Necrons guass everyone

Oh and anyone who says Orky things are idiotic... you can't see the funny side of it

Wazdakka taking out a Warlord Titan by driving off a cliff and flying through the cockpit ON FIRE and killing the crew is pure genius. In fact almost all the stuff in the Ork Codex is pure genius.

Speaking of Orks, the Kastorel-Novem IA. Seriously Imperium, you dun goof'd.

**ChrisWWII**

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Has anyone ever wondered why Latin is so prevalent in the 41st Millennium?

Because they're not speaking Latin. It being rendered as Latin is a translation convention. Basically, they're speaking their language of High Gothic, and it's translated into pseudo-Latin as that's how High Gothic sounds to your average Imperial Citizen for the ease of the players.

Similarly, they speak 'English' because of the same convention, so that we can understand the Imperials talking, and get some kind of feel for who they are.

**Brother Coa**

To me one more example was Magnus way of warning the Emperor about Horus...

When he was breaching Emperor's defense on Terra's Webway, he didn't think for a moment that would open a warp rift and that daemons will attack Terra...

Or to simply round up all Thousand Sons and go to Terra directly...

**ChrisWWII**

He didn't know about the Golden Throne and the Webway. He was desperate to get a message to the Emperor as quickly as possible, and going there himself would take too long. He din't know his message would screw up the Emperor's plans and piss him off that much.

**Jordan**

ChrisWWII wrote:He didn't know about the Golden Throne and the Webway. He was desperate to get a message to the Emperor as quickly as possible, and going there himself would take too long. He din't know his message would screw up the Emperor's plans and piss him off that much.

In hindsight, letting Horus and the other primarchs know what he was up to probably could have saved the galaxy being turned on it's head.

**ChrisWWII**

As they say, hindsight is 20/20. A lot of things turn out they could be easily prevented when people look back at them.