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maybe I missed it.. what is the price on the Garden of Morr?

I saw the cross on top of the gate, and do admit.. first thought was "Ah! This is where they bury Terminators.. "

Im more amazed that official rules could actually be included in something other than a codex once again

H.B.M.C. wrote:The Garden looks good but... does anyone else think that it is ludicrously cluttered?

Again, this kit consists of a whole set of terrain pieces on separate bases. On the box you see them separate, on the other photo an shoved together for minimal footprint. You are free to place the individual parts of the set together as you like, even 2 or three sets of them.

Scottywan82 wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:3.) Archon court would be an awful choice for plastic blisters, as they are a choice noone takes so would sell badly. Better make popular HQ units in plastic.

Not sure if I agree with you here, KH. These mono-pose plastic blisters are not really that great for HQs unless they are compatible the the plastic troops choices - for instance with the DE Archon.

Plastic kits have to sell quite a lot to be economic. Much more than a Medusa will ever sell.

porkuslime wrote:maybe I missed it.. what is the price on the Garden of Morr?

Scan is from the US White Dwarf not showing prices, so Canadians don't get angry
There once was a list with prices in Singapore Dollars, but I haven't saved it. Just wait until end of the week.

While I do like the dragon and the scenery I expect the cost of both in Oz will be over $100 each and unaffordable but neither are worth more than $50 to myself. I just have to wonder how much the sale restrictions have dropped total unit sales/

The new vampire releases are gorgeous. If I could afford it, I would be making a vampire army with that dragon at the front. The Garden of Morr is also probably their best scenery kit to date, though I have to imagine that much plastic in one box is going to be exorbitantly priced.

One thing that really grinds my gears though is the way they describe these new kits. Every kit is "cleverly designed," or "innovative" in some way. A multi-pose kit with optional pieces isn't innovative!

Kroothawk wrote:

porkuslime wrote:maybe I missed it.. what is the price on the Garden of Morr?

Scan is from the US White Dwarf not showing prices, so Canadians don't get angry
There once was a list with prices in Singapore Dollars, but I haven't saved it. Just wait until end of the week.

There was a link to a preorder list on the Heresy Online forum which was mentioned at the start of this thread (the link doesn't work anymore). I don't remember the Dollar amount, but I think the price for the Garden that I saw translates to about 25/30,- Euros.

Love the dragon and the garden of moor. Though I think I would have liked to see the dragon with the wings spread open like it's trying to fly or land or whatever.

Can anyone confirm these are the American prices?

Aug 2011 Pre-Orders
Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon $87.90
Vampire Counts Cairn Wraith $20.90
Vampire Counts Tomb Banshee $20.90
Aug Vlad Von Carstein $27.90
Aug Konrad Von Carstein $27.90
Inquisitor Karamazov $87.90
Dark Elves War Hydra $96.90
Dark Elf Dreadlord on Cold One $27.90
Wood Elf Spellweaver with Staff $27.90
Garden of Morr $62.90

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Chaos Daemons Battalion Battleforce $149.90
Herald of Tzeentch on Disc of Tzeentch $56.90
The Changeling $27.90
Chaos Daemons Bloodthirster $87.90
Chaos Daemons Lord of Change $87.90
Dark Eldar Ur-Ghul $25.90
Dark Eldar Medusae $25.90

Certainly not. These are the Singapore Dollar prices.
Guess it is save to assume that the Wraith and Banshee cost as much as the other pastic blisters, so e.g. 10.50 €. Would make Garden of Morr cost like a standard regiment, around 30 €.

$96.90 for a war hydra?

Who is smoking what on those prices? That is what, almost a 200% price increase over metal?

Who thinks anyone is going to pay $56.90 for a herald on disc?


Edit: OOPs. In after I see those are Singapore prices. I was worried I was going to have to take up smoking crack as a cheeper addiction.

Shotgun wrote:$96.90 for a war hydra?

Who is smoking what on those prices? That is what, almost a 200% price increase over metal?

Who thinks anyone is going to pay $56.90 for a herald on disc?


Edit: OOPs. In after I see those are Singapore prices. I was worried I was going to have to take up smoking crack as a cheeper addiction.

Those are Singapore dollars.....

nectarprime wrote:

Shotgun wrote:$96.90 for a war hydra?

Who is smoking what on those prices? That is what, almost a 200% price increase over metal?

Who thinks anyone is going to pay $56.90 for a herald on disc?


Edit: OOPs. In after I see those are Singapore prices. I was worried I was going to have to take up smoking crack as a cheeper addiction.

Those are Singapore dollars.....

Thank God! I was worried for a second

Cairn Wraith = Baby Nightbringer?

I do like the Garden, but I've got no use for it at present. It does look a very nice set, though.

The Cairn Wraith is my favourite of the bunch. That is an absolutely great looking miniature

What I don't understand though, is that they chose these particular items for single pose/single blister release as they are fielded in 3-10s. Why not put them in a kit with three of five different poses?

TBD wrote:The Cairn Wraith is my favourite of the bunch. That is an absolutely great looking miniature

What I don't understand though, is that they chose these particular items for single pose/single blister release as they are fielded in 3-10s. Why not put them in a kit with three of five different poses?

Probably because any pose differences likely won't be that different. Why bother with shapeless robe bodies 1-3 when you can do shapeless robe body 1 that can take options from any Skeleton, Zombie, Black Guard, or the Necromancer release?

Damn, well the Garden of Morr will be the Garden of Mordheim once I'm done with it. Going to need two of those I reckon.

Might nab one of two of the new undead for my Mordheim Undead band as well. Been meaning to add Wraiths to the warband.

TBD wrote:What I don't understand though, is that they chose these particular items for single pose/single blister release as they are fielded in 3-10s. Why not put them in a kit with three of five different poses?

See first post:

all these new rules are meant to be official rules. (...)

The wraiths become a hero choice, and it seems they can join units. They are the same stats as in the VC book, and can make an special attack, replacing its normal attacks. This special attack auto-wounds and doesn't allow armour saves. The model is plastic and has 3 different heads. It's like levitating, with a cloak and a scythe.

The banshees become a hero choice (not sure if they can join units). Not new rules. The model is great. Also levitating.

It isn't specified if the wraiths rare unit of the VC book is still usable.

Kroothawk wrote:

TBD wrote:What I don't understand though, is that they chose these particular items for single pose/single blister release as they are fielded in 3-10s. Why not put them in a kit with three of five different poses?

See first post:

all these new rules are meant to be official rules. (...)

The wraiths become a hero choice, and it seems they can join units. They are the same stats as in the VC book, and can make an special attack, replacing its normal attacks. This special attack auto-wounds and doesn't allow armour saves. The model is plastic and has 3 different heads. It's like levitating, with a cloak and a scythe.

The banshees become a hero choice (not sure if they can join units). Not new rules. The model is great. Also levitating.

It isn't specified if the wraiths rare unit of the VC book is still usable.

And this is the part that concerns me the most, to be honest. I look forward to learning the true answer.

Coming back to this thread after a hiatus...

WOW @ the Terrorgheist! (sp?) Although I don't like the dragon form of the kit nearly as much.

Also loving the wraith and banshee.

The DE characters are not bad.



The disc caster character, however, disappoints me... although it does save me some money as I will stick with the conversions I've already done for my WoC discs.

zombie wrote:While I do like the dragon and the scenery I expect the cost of both in Oz will be over $100 each and unaffordable but neither are worth more than $50 to myself. I just have to wonder how much the sale restrictions have dropped total unit sales/

Gotta love how this pops up in just about every single thread. We get it, some Australians are pissy over the embargo.

Now, applying a little logic here, the Zombie Dragon should fetch about the price of the other large Fantasy models. High Elves Dragon, Dark Elves Black Dragon, Hell Pit Abomination, Chaos Lord on Manticore, even the ludicrously big dual kit Warsphinx/Necrosphinx box all fall into the $83au price bracket. One monster, the Arachnorok, falls into the $96au price bracket. The Zombie Dragon kit it likely to fall into the $96au bracket, since it's similarly sized (and used the Arachnorok base), but honestly I'd bet it'll fall into the $83au bracket.

Barring terrain, Warhammer Fantasy is actually the only range so far with models not in the $100au+ range. 40k has several in there, and LotR has the Mumakil. I do admit though, Fantasy has some ridiculous pricing. $83au for Archaon? What that feth.

Clearer pic of the Dark Eldar models on Hogs of War:

Yeah...I still like the Ur-Ghul, even if it looks like it has no eyes and just bloody pits.

Might be a cool Ghoul King on foot no less.

Whoooooooaaaaaaaa . From that clearer pic, I actually like those two models quite a bit... I'm OK with all of the more recent DE- a clearly different style than the previous, non-haemonculii type stuff... but still very good, imho.

The Medusae looks awesome. I love how the mask shown inset mimicks a Zoanthropes face.

damn, i like the vamp dragon. looks like i'll be adding something to my mantic undead

Anyone know what will be in the Chaos Daemons Battleforce/Armybox?

Kanluwen wrote:Yeah...I still like the Ur-Ghul, even if it looks like it has no eyes and just bloody pits.

Since Ur-Ghuls are blind, they probably aren't supposed to have eyes. They just have a row of 'scent pits' (aka nostrils)

And two different heads each, it seems.

Sigh, another release where i just cant resist and i dont play dark eldar. the ur-ghul will make fine plaguebearers and or khorne heralds and the other thingy screams for a slaanesh conversion.

Swordwind wrote:Anyone know what will be in the Chaos Daemons Battleforce/Armybox?

First post in the thread - seems to be 20 Bloodletters, 10 Daemonettes, 10 Horrors and 5 Mounted Daemonettes.