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I'm not gonna lie; when I first saw the 'Tomb Banshee' I thought of Ginny Weasley.

Kanluwen wrote:Yeah...I still like the Ur-Ghul, even if it looks like it has no eyes and just bloody pits.

...just like it's description in the codex! lol...

I'm surprised at how much its body reminds me of a bloodletter. I guess my conversion idea I had wasn't that far off after all. Would be a lot cheaper, too...

Good lord, I think that dragon made me splooge a little...

I really love the new vampire stuff.But the demon thing looks awful.

I can confirm the following:

6th August

Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon (new plastic kit, also usable as Terrorgheist, on an Arachnarok sized base) 45.50 €
Vampire Counts Cairn Wraith (new plastic blister) 10.50 €
Vampire Counts Tomb Banshee (new plastic blister) 10.50 €
Vlad Von Carstein (recast, Finecast, mail order only) 15.00 €
Konrad Von Carstein (recast, Finecast, mail order only) 15.00 €

Garden of Morr (this is a new multipart plastic graveyard terrain set) 32.50 €


20th August

Chaos Daemons Battalion / Battleforce (20 bloodletters, 10 daemonettes, 10 horrors, 5 mounted daemonettes) 85.00 €
Chaos Daemons Herald of Tzeentch on Disc of Tzeentch (new, Finecast, mail order only) 30.00 €
Chaos Standards of Tzeentch (3, Finecast, mail order only) 15.50 €
Chaos Standards of Khorne #1 (3, Finecast, mail order only) 15.50 €
Chaos Standards of Khorne #2 (3, Finecast, mail order only) 15.50 €

Dark Eldar Ur-Ghul (new, Finecast) 12.50 €
Dark Eldar Medusae (new, Finecast) 12.50 €

There is no scroll of binding for including the Terrorgheist or Zombiedragon into SoM, but both and Wraith and Banshee are explicitely mentioned to be a possible part of a pact. And yes, Banshee and Wraith get a ruleset to make them a hero choice, explicitely in addition to existing rules in the army book.

None of the other Finecast recasts is mentioned in the WD, so GW continues to deny the existence of that product range

The preview page confirms the second part of the Sororitas Codex in the next WD and the September release of the Ogre Kingdom army book including monsters bigger than a house!

BTW the Garden of Morr is fantastic, many more pics in the WD.

Throw tentacles on the medusae and boom, instant mind flayer for DnD players.

I like the models for the vampire counts but I agree with the other about Dark eldar.Stop the madness and move on

They want how much for a Herald of Tzeentch on a disc!?

30€ for a Herald on Disc!? That's bloody ridiculous.

blood reaper wrote:30€ for a Herald on Disc!? That's bloody ridiculous.

If it's 30€ it will be at least $38 US and maybe more. Ugh.

So no Master of the Ravenwing on Jetbike? :(

oneway wrote: I agree with the other about Dark eldar.Stop the madness and move on

Heh. That's what I keep saying about Space Marines...

when the feth are the tyranids going to get a tervigon? I imagine those things would sell like hot cakes, I know I'd buy three...and I meant feth, not feth...feth

Kroothawk wrote:Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon (new plastic kit, also usable as Terrorgheist, on an Arachnarok sized base) 45.50 €

Login prevails. $96au price bracket. I would have liked it in the normal monster bracket, but it's good they didn't price higher.

I had a look at the new White Dwarf yesterday. There are also new Finecast Chaos Icon Banner Packs coming. Some of the icons are the really cool ones straight out of existing plastic kits like the Bloodcrushers and Bloodletters, some are brand new icons and banners. Banners will be packaged by Chaos power.

BrassScorpion wrote:I had a look at the new White Dwarf yesterday. There are also new Finecast Chaos Icon Banner Packs coming. Some of the icons are the really cool ones straight out of existing plastic kits like the Bloodcrushers and Bloodletters, some are brand new icons and banners. Banners will be packaged by Chaos power.

I could get down with that. I was afeared I'd have to grab a ton of the same Icon for my Sons army.

Really like the Vampire stuff, especially the terrorgheist with the ghoul king. And talk about timing, I had just decided to start VC as a SoM pact/3rd WFB army

I wonder if it's possible to build the terrorgheist body with a zombie dragon head? I prefer the terrorgheist's pose and sculpt but hate the head.

Chaos finally getting a battle force makes me happy to bad no plaugebearers.

As a Vampire count player I really loved the new models I will buy them all and the scenery as well. I also have Dark eldar but im not sure if i would grab one of those models. Not that i didnt like them, i find them quite interesting tho i still believe they could work more ideas on medusae. The subject is that i dont play with court on most of my games. Anyway about the vampire counts... The dragon is awesome so does the terrogheist. I own the old wraiths and banshees tho i can add the new one as well. Its really a shame they didnt gave us new black knights tbh and incoherent but the herald looks awful dudes. I would prefer the tzeentch sorcerer on disc thousand times instead. Anyone knows anything about the cost of terrorgheist as a rare option? Hm we have to wait the new rules to make sure about the use of those monsters. One more thing, wraiths in units? what the hell? no ethereal rule? or they still cant be hurt but normal weapons? meeh i hope they wont ruin our good old wraith units!

Kroothawk wrote:20th August

*snip*
Dark Eldar Ur-Ghul (new, Finecast, see pic)
Dark Eldar Medusae (new, Finecast, see pic)

So let me get this straight......They are only releasing half of a unit?! The court of the Archon must include at least 1 of each critter, yet they only release 2 of the 4 models? Who on earth would buy them if its actually impossible to make a legal unit with them untill they they release other models? Don't get me wrong, I really like the sculpts, but they are utterly useless in gaming terms until a Lhamean and Sslyth are both released.

Woohoow! More dark eldar!!

Gorechild wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:20th August

*snip*
Dark Eldar Ur-Ghul (new, Finecast, see pic)
Dark Eldar Medusae (new, Finecast, see pic)

So let me get this straight......They are only releasing half of a unit?! The court of the Archon must include at least 1 of each critter, yet they only release 2 of the 4 models? Who on earth would buy them if its actually impossible to make a legal unit with them untill they they release other models? Don't get me wrong, I really like the sculpts, but they are utterly useless in gaming terms until a Lhamean and Sslyth are both released.

Agreed, this is a bit odd, but pales into insignificance when you consider to field a legal unit of 4 models would cost £40!!!

Not to mention my idea of fielding multiple sslyth to take advantage of majority toughness rule has gone from a vague idea to a little screwed up bit of paper in the back of my brain. These are almost double the cost (£££ wise) that they really should be for anyone to seriously consider them surely?

These are almost double the cost (£££ wise) that they really should be for anyone to seriously consider them surely?

Agreed. The fact they've only released half the unit (and I'd argue not even the best options from that unit) only makes it worse. Surely the Sslyth and Lhameans would sell more?

The single figure plastic kits (although nice) are also overpriced - £8-10 is just madness for single pose plastic kits (conversion possibilities aside) - the standard 20% from Wayland et al makes them far more attractive - still get 'em while you can, next year they'll likely go up to £10-12

One more thing, wraiths in units? what the hell? no ethereal rule? or they still cant be hurt but normal weapons? meeh i hope they wont ruin our good old wraith units!

I'm sure they won't - but it seems contardictory to the Armies book if this is the case - typical GW Does anyone else see the banshee coverted into an (expensive) plastic ethereal vampire?

Of all the things they could have done bitz packs for, they do banners. For Daemons. In Finecast.

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUU-

All jokes aside I do find that interesting. I know they won't actually release anything useful, like a pack of blasters or dark lances for Dark Eldar for example, but at least this means it's in the realm of possibility, and that all of the suggestions we've been making this whole time weren't stupid after all.

oneway wrote: I like the models for the vampire counts but I agree with the other about Dark eldar.Stop the madness and move on

Oh yeah, you're right, time to move on. It's not like Dark Eldar have been ignored for a decade or anything, why the feth do they need models?

warspawned wrote:The single figure plastic kits (although nice) are also overpriced - £8-10 is just madness for single pose plastic kits (conversion possibilities aside) - the standard 20% from Wayland et al makes them far more attractive - still get 'em while you can, next year they'll likely go up to £10-12

Honestly, I'm pretty surprised and happy with the price. I'm liking them more than single pose metal models (well, now Finecast models) and they're the same price as the old metals, cheaper than Finecast. Some are in poses that really couldn't be done with metalsand would be terrible in Finecast - look at the Necromancer, with its sweeping cloak. Wouldn't have been done in metal because it would have been too hard to build, and in Finecast it would be far too brittle as the cloak is very, very thin. Or the Tzeentch sorcerers thin arms that would snap in Finecast.

The second wave of plastics are also getting things that the single pose metals never did - the Wraith has an alternate head, and the Herald has two alternate arms. I wouldn't be surprised if further releases end up with even more options crammed into the little frame - looking at some of the Fantasy sprues they can really jam things in there. The plastic characters could have easily been priced higher with 'GW logic', but where they are is pretty good. Maybe not compared to other companies stuff, but for GW models, their price is good.

I long ago made peace with the idea that GW feel they can charge 5x the price for a single figure as it represents a more powerful figure in the game, and consequently more points, but IIRC the ur-ghul and medusa are ~15 points each? So we are looking about £40 (which probably translates to AUS$100) for a unit which, while containing some individually characterful and fluffy units, which aren't totally useless in game terms, isn't what you would call competitive, or even powerful, for a sub-100 point unit?

Makes I laugh.

I'm liking the new selections for Fantasy. I'm definitely going to get me one of the Zombie Dragons and if the other option with the ghoul is just as good then I'll have to get a second one so I can field both if necessary

Can you equip the wraith with any magic items? 50 points for 3 strength 5 WS3 attacks while being T3 with no save of any kind is a pretty bad deal. Ethereal is only so good.

75 points for a banshee is still a ripoff although hiding her in a tough unit makes her somewhat better.

For the Medusae I'm thinking herald of tzeentch conversion.