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Really, it's just as likely that if the Tau create a truly sapient AI that they'll make it another contributing member to the Empire's Greater Good, as it is that upon gaining free will these AI will go all Skynet.

I think the problem most people have with your argument is how in the OP you claim that when a true AI appears, it always goes all killy, failing to recognize that it's just a popular sci-fi trope and not some sort of universal truth.

Bookwrack wrote:
I think the problem most people have with your argument is how in the OP you claim that when a true AI appears, it always goes all killy, failing to recognize that it's just a popular sci-fi trope and not some sort of universal truth.

Not always but mostly.

Only "mostly" in that there's been a few popular settings where that sort of thing has happened. Terminator, Mass Effect and 2001 come to mind.

In Star Trek? It didn't. AI is a helpful and prevalent technology, and is a boon to the Federation and its member races.

In Star Wars? AI is commonly found in Droids, which can be built with a variety of functions. Some are combat-related, which makes for violent Droids, but there has only been isolated incidents of "Droid Uprisings", generally caused by a single AI-entity overriding the programming of other Droids. In this setting, AI is dealt with on a case-by-case basis, but there has never been an overarching AI-is-going-to-kill-everyone event.

Issac Asimov's sci-fi settings? Nope. AI killing people violates the First Law of Robotics. You would require human intervention to remove this failsafe in order for a Rise of the Machines to happen.

Brother Coa wrote:
And was it so hard to say that? Without necessarily arguments and such. And can handle the majorities's not agreeing, this is why I posted this thread - to learn everyone's opinion. But everyone atacked me and I must clarify myself.

Many dakkalites have rebutted your assertions. Your own counter arguments are either false or prone to fallacies. You can't distinguish truth from bias opinions. To you, it's all subjective. You do not seek truth or resolution. You are like a broken record player stating the same arguments over and over. You know the general consensus. You know everyone's opinions, which is in favor of a Tau AI rebellion not happening. Move on, there's no point to further this discussion.

SabrX wrote:
Many dakkalites have rebutted your assertions. Your own counter arguments are either false or prone to fallacies. You can't distinguish truth from bias opinions. To you, it's all subjective. You do not seek truth or resolution. You are like a broken record player stating the same arguments over and over. You know the general consensus. You know everyone's opinions, which is in favor of a Tau AI rebellion not happening. Move on, there's no point to further this discussion.

I am not to blaim if some people love their race " a little to much ". I only wanted to hear people's opinion on subject, and I honestly didn't know what would someone say - except you implement I am a psyker . And in this kind of subject there is no truth since the whole question is related to the future and future is varying ( explained in few posts before this one ). As for the opinion I know only the alligence of certain people, but I am Imperial player adn admit that Tau have a fair chance of beating the Imperium one day in some really major battle. I thought some people are more open-minded to some themes but I have mistaken and must be cautious what to ask them.

If you think the Tau AI will not happened, then say so and reason why. Don't "research" my motives in one post, it's rude.

As Tau were my first army when I got back into the game in '03, I did a lot of research on them.

They so far have A.I. that is at rudimentary intelligence levels at best, but if they did make such a leap on robotics, and the A.I wanted freedom as it were, they likely would ask the bots to join them, after all, their own culture is almost a machine like one in the Caste system and the Greater Good being the society first, so that individuals prosper collectively.

A.I.'s could adapt to that far more easily that humanity's sense of "we made you, so you best do as we say" attitude which is likely what helped fuel such a rebellion like the men of iron did.

Even if the AIs collectively decide that they want to kill all huma-tau. They can't make more of themselves like the men of iron could.