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Kroothawk wrote:

Polvilhovoador wrote:The logic here is "because it happened to humans it HAS to happen to Tau too!" ?

No, it's the usual logic in Tau hater threads:
1.) Tau society is based on the principle of the Greater Good, i.e. that peace and mutual collaboration is better for the benefit of the society than killing each other on sight.
2.) Noone with even minimal intelligence would voluntarily accept a society where killing each other is limited (obvious as all babies try to kill their parents as soon as they are intelligent enough, it's just natural ).
3.) Therefore as soon as AI is intelligent enough to understand Tau society, the drones would of course fight for their God-given right to do massacres any time they want. Everyone would do that! Limiting massacres is so ... inhuman!

Therefore the question, when Tau drones will wipe out the Tau race (muahahaha). Makes sense in Mass Effect, must make sense in the real world Just because I give an comparison doesn't mean that it will happened to Tau to, but there is also a chance that will happened. And how do you don't like Mass Effect? One of the best RPG games of all time? Oh right, no Tau in Mass Effect

Next thread will feature the question, how susceptible Tau are to deseases and if it is possible to wipe out the race with biological weapons. Not out of hate of course, just scientific curiosity.

Next thread will be about animals on Sept worlds, if they might be capable of eating up the Tau race.

Next thread will be about the desert planet T'au. What if there were a severe drought on that Sept world. Would it wipe out a considerable part of the Tau race?

Next thread would be about what happened, if a major Hive Fleet would enter the Eastern Sector. How are the chances to wipe out the Tau race.

Next thread would be about auxiliary troops. If they all rebel, could they wipe out the Tau race?

Next thread would be about the warp storm once separating the T'au planet from the rest of the world. What if it came back? Would it wipe out the Tau race.

Next thread would be about T'au being an Eldar maiden world. How about the chances that Eldar wipe out the Tau race?

Next thread would be about T'au being a tomb world of the necrons. How about the chances that Necrons wipe out the Tau race?

Next thread ...

Do not worry, we get sliced to by everyone else. Only problem is you are complaining and we don't.

Brother Coa wrote: Just because I give an comparison doesn't mean that it will happened to Tau to, but there is also a chance that will happened. And how do you don't like Mass Effect? One of the best RPG games of all time? Oh right, no Tau in Mass Effect [/color]

For someone who continually argues that that everyone is entitled to their opinion, you're awfully quick to attack his.

Also, where did he say he didn't like ME?

Nerivant wrote:
For someone who continually argues that that everyone is entitled to their opinion, you're awfully quick to attack his.

Also, where did he say he didn't like ME?

And he told his opinion witch is: NO. But that doesn't mean that he can insult me.
He is constantly attacking it, that means that he is not bound to much to it.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:@trollpie Seem awful certain there fella. I'm guessing you must be writing that there fluff these days to nay say it so.

It's simple logic. Drones, by definition, aren't self aware. And even if they were, they wouldn't rebel-because they have no emotions to drive them to taking power. They don't have pain or fear or boredom to make them dislike their work. Simply put, they have no reason to rebel.


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Brother Coa wrote:

Nerivant wrote:
For someone who continually argues that that everyone is entitled to their opinion, you're awfully quick to attack his.

Also, where did he say he didn't like ME?

And he told his opinion witch is: NO. But that doesn't mean that he can insult me.
He is constantly attacking it, that means that he is not bound to much to it.

He's attacking the arguement that something in ME must happen in some other SF universe. That doesn't mean he dislikes the game itself and if he did it would be irrelevent.

TrollPie wrote:
He's attacking the arguement that something in ME must happen in some other SF universe. That doesn't mean he dislikes the game itself and if he did it would be irrelevent.

And when I did say that? Don't lie know I sad: look at Mass Effect and the Geth. Quarians also upgraded Geth to the point that they gain intelligence. Tau are upgrading their Drones to, but I didn't say that rebellion MUST happened. I just said "see this as an example" - and that doesn't mean that I said it MUST happened this way.

The point of this thread was friendly discussion on the subject and Tau fans are calling me a "heretic" to Tau fluff and attacking me?
And he also attacked the game, meaning he doesn't like it. Why would anyone attack the game he likes?

@trollpie assessing a task and conducting it outside the bounds of their programming due to it being more efficient would be by definition an act of rebellion. No sentiment, feelings etc are needed. Cold simple logic can be sufficient reason to rebel.

For example there is a famine and everyone is starving. Both law and emotion/social pressure say murder is wrong. Logic states letting some die/or killing them to a point where there is sufficient for the remaining population is the correct choice. Logic in this case would act contrary to emotion and the rule of law resulting in an act of rebellion.

The same thing would apply in the case of an aircraft piloted by auto-pilot which needed to perform a violent manoeuvre to avoid crashing, which manoeuvre would result in the death of some but not all passengers.

"Rebellion" is merely a semantic usage in those cases.

It's rather a stretch to move from such circumstances to say that inevitably there would be a Tau Rise Of The Machines™ similar to the revolt of the Iron Men in human history.

Why do you keep bringing up Mass Effect and generic scifi tropes, Coa?

Just because one universe has one thing happen because of a similar set of events does not mean it will happen in another.

To give an example: if the Imperium started fielding legions of cloned soldiers who were based off one of the nastiest Kasrkin alive at the time, it doesn't mean they'd obey an order to execute the Inquisitors leading them into battle.

It's one of several different outcomes. Each setting uses those tropes to create something unique to that universe.

Can we take sources outside 40k then?

AI's are selfless beings who only care about good and freedom of living creatures:




(Not serious obviously)

AI only start doing things like rebel when they are programmed to learn. Drones are not, if a drone was commanded to go round a corner and it got shot to pieces other drones wouldnt refuse to do this they would just go round the corner to be destroyed. A learning system after the first death would not do the same thing again.

The Geth that you used as proof were learning, they learned they didnt have to fight for there masters.

@killkrazy in several posts I have stated that I think any such extreme uprising unlikely, though I am asserting that it is not impossible.

Also using rebellion only to describe a violent act is also semantic usage, I've included in my posts several different ways rebellion could be expressed in this case demonstrating a much broader use of the word.


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@blood devil Check my earlier post, learning is considered a component of artificial intelligence and drones are artificially intelligent.

Kroothawk wrote:

Polvilhovoador wrote:The logic here is "because it happened to humans it HAS to happen to Tau too!" ?

No, it's the usual logic in Tau hater threads:
1.) Tau society is based on the principle of the Greater Good, i.e. that peace and mutual collaboration is better for the benefit of the society than killing each other on sight.
2.) Noone with even minimal intelligence would voluntarily accept a society where killing each other is limited (obvious as all babies try to kill their parents as soon as they are intelligent enough, it's just natural ).
3.) Therefore as soon as AI is intelligent enough to understand Tau society, the drones would of course fight for their God-given right to do massacres any time they want. Everyone would do that! Limiting massacres is so ... inhuman!

Therefore the question, when Tau drones will wipe out the Tau race (muahahaha). Makes sense in Mass Effect, must make sense in the real world

Next thread will feature the question, how susceptible Tau are to deseases and if it is possible to wipe out the race with biological weapons. Not out of hate of course, just scientific curiosity.

Next thread will be about animals on Sept worlds, if they might be capable of eating up the Tau race.

Next thread will be about the desert planet T'au. What if there were a severe drought on that Sept world. Would it wipe out a considerable part of the Tau race?

Next thread would be about what happened, if a major Hive Fleet would enter the Eastern Sector. How are the chances to wipe out the Tau race.

Next thread would be about auxiliary troops. If they all rebel, could they wipe out the Tau race?

Next thread would be about the warp storm once separating the T'au planet from the rest of the world. What if it came back? Would it wipe out the Tau race.

Next thread would be about T'au being an Eldar maiden world. How about the chances that Eldar wipe out the Tau race?

Next thread would be about T'au being a tomb world of the necrons. How about the chances that Necrons wipe out the Tau race?

Next thread ...

Well said Kroothawk. This is exactly that this thread boils down to Tau hate.

Kanluwen wrote:Why do you keep bringing up Mass Effect and generic scifi tropes, Coa?

Because it has a god example for AI rebelion. I didn't say that that would implement to Tau only that it was and example of AI rebellion. I can use Termionator if you want...

Just because one universe has one thing happen because of a similar set of events does not mean it will happen in another.

To give an example: if the Imperium started fielding legions of cloned soldiers who were based off one of the nastiest Kasrkin alive at the time, it doesn't mean they'd obey an order to execute the Inquisitors leading them into battle.

It's one of several different outcomes. Each setting uses those tropes to create something unique to that universe.

I only use examples, but implemented that certain rules are universal for every universe. Like AI rebellions, somewhere they don't happened but in most they do.


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SabrX wrote:
Well said Kroothawk. This is exactly that this thread boils down to Tau hate.

Hm, and what about Imperial hate?

Thread about the Emperor and his Empress. Result: Emperor is a gay or he likes to a lot ( Sensei ).
Thread about Chaos being the "good guys". Result: Imperium is ultimate evil in 40k. While Chaos are the good guys.
Thread about Fate of the Imperium. Result: Imperium will collapse one way or other, because it's evil and it is far to corrupted.
Thread about souls and Warp. Result: All fighting for preservation, all sacrifices of Humanity are useless because all souls are eaten by Chaos Gods.
Thread about Technology. Result: Cavemen had better technology then Imperium, Tau are so high we can't even see the top. And we won't even mention Eldar or Necrons.
Thread about Tyranid numbers. Result: Tyranids will OM NOM NOM entire Imperium, no matter what we do we are screwed.
Thread about Star Child. Result: Star Child is probably a lie and even if it was true the Imeprium will collapse because High Lords of Terra will rebel against the Emperor.
Thread about How will Imperium fall ( irony ). Result: whatever we do - we are dead. But we will fall fighting.
Thread about What race will stand last. Result: We will be overrun by Orks or consumed by Chaos.
Thread about Imperial Gaurd Regiments. Result: We have a load of them but losing a war? Did someone troll us or something?
Thread about Leman Russ vs. Hammerhead. result: Like it wasn't obvious that Hamerherad is anti-tank while Leman Russ is anti-infantry.
Thread about Taros. Result: Like we are not hated enough. And even our mightyest weapons are gunned down by smallest Tau spaceships.
Thread about...........

And Tau are hated? I ask moderators to upgrade Kan to moderator so he can close any Imperial hate thread.
And don't tell me one word about Tau haters now....

Brother Coa wrote:
Because it has a god example for AI rebelion. I didn't say that that would implement to Tau only that it was and example of AI rebellion. I can use Termionator if you want...

An example that would only be valid if the the AI in 40k followed the same rules as the AI in ME. They don't. You can't use AI from another source to justify how an AI in 40k will behave.

I think the most comical/loler part of this entire discussion is the fact that people assume the Tau, a race controlled 100% mentally by Ethereals would ever construct an A.I. capable of free will.

Kroothawk wrote:

Polvilhovoador wrote:The logic here is "because it happened to humans it HAS to happen to Tau too!" ?

No, it's the usual logic in Tau hater threads:
1.) Tau society is based on the principle of the Greater Good, i.e. that peace and mutual collaboration is better for the benefit of the society than killing each other on sight.
2.) Noone with even minimal intelligence would voluntarily accept a society where killing each other is limited (obvious as all babies try to kill their parents as soon as they are intelligent enough, it's just natural ).
3.) Therefore as soon as AI is intelligent enough to understand Tau society, the drones would of course fight for their God-given right to do massacres any time they want. Everyone would do that! Limiting massacres is so ... inhuman!

Therefore the question, when Tau drones will wipe out the Tau race (muahahaha). Makes sense in Mass Effect, must make sense in the real world

Next thread will feature the question, how susceptible Tau are to deseases and if it is possible to wipe out the race with biological weapons. Not out of hate of course, just scientific curiosity.

Next thread will be about animals on Sept worlds, if they might be capable of eating up the Tau race.

Next thread will be about the desert planet T'au. What if there were a severe drought on that Sept world. Would it wipe out a considerable part of the Tau race?

Next thread would be about what happened, if a major Hive Fleet would enter the Eastern Sector. How are the chances to wipe out the Tau race.

Next thread would be about auxiliary troops. If they all rebel, could they wipe out the Tau race?

Next thread would be about the warp storm once separating the T'au planet from the rest of the world. What if it came back? Would it wipe out the Tau race.

Next thread would be about T'au being an Eldar maiden world. How about the chances that Eldar wipe out the Tau race?

Next thread would be about T'au being a tomb world of the necrons. How about the chances that Necrons wipe out the Tau race?

Next thread ...

Maybe. They are a multi race empire so realistically one virus can't wipe all them out, but they are not the best at bio engineering.

The are are natural hunters, I don't see their empire toppled by an enraged squirrel.

Can you have a planet wide drought? I mean the water goes somewhere you just follow it.

The killed the last fleet surprisingly well given that it was there first try. I see hope.

If they all leave, They wouldn't make it. Most of them lack warp travel.

The warp storm wouldn't really affect the tau. They don't go into the wrap, just skim it. My bet is they wouldn't even notice till the rouge traders complain.

Tau being an maiden world? They would have noticed by now. It's also there home world, wouldn't that be a little like getting mad that squirrels have defiled earth?

Tome world on tau. Necrons kill everything, so ya.


There we go now I don't have to post for a few weeks

Brother Coa wrote:
And don't tell me one word about Tau haters now....

Interesting coming from the OP who started this whole discussion. It's also interesting that you made assertions based on comparisons outside the 40k realm.

There's no point in arguing against willful ignorance. It's like talking to a wall. This entire thread is a farce.

Brother Coa wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Then there's the chance that Drones could rebel. But until then, it's not going to happen.

I was waiting to hear that all day... thank you good sir

I rest my case.

SabrX wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:
And don't tell me one word about Tau haters now....

Interesting coming from the OP who started this whole discussion. It's also interesting that you made assertions based on comparisons outside the 40k realm.

There's no point in arguing against willful ignorance. It's like talking to a wall. This entire thread is a farce.

Brother Coa wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Then there's the chance that Drones could rebel. But until then, it's not going to happen.

I was waiting to hear that all day... thank you good sir

I rest my case.

No, it is just ignorance of some people not wanting to believe that this thing is even possible. But fail to give a simple answer as: no or I don't think so but must start philosophical argument about AI. And cool is the only guy so far that told me that is possible, one told me after that to but everyone else said no without any assumption to back it up except "GW won't continue the storytelling". And people like you are just don't understand - if you don't like something don't comment at all. Or if you had opinion, say it - no need to make unnecessary arguments.

I rest my case.

Brother Coa wrote:

SabrX wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:
And don't tell me one word about Tau haters now....

Interesting coming from the OP who started this whole discussion. It's also interesting that you made assertions based on comparisons outside the 40k realm.

There's no point in arguing against willful ignorance. It's like talking to a wall. This entire thread is a farce.

Brother Coa wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Then there's the chance that Drones could rebel. But until then, it's not going to happen.

I was waiting to hear that all day... thank you good sir

I rest my case.

No, it is just ignorance of some people not wanting to believe that this thing is even possible. But fail to give a simple answer as: no or I don't think so but must start philosophical argument about AI. And cool is the only guy so far that told me that is possible, one told me after that to but everyone else said no without any assumption to back it up except "GW won't continue the storytelling". And people like you are just don't understand - if you don't like something don't comment at all. Or if you had opinion, say it - no need to make unnecessary arguments.

I rest my case.

You asked for our thoughts on the matter, for everyone to comment on your idea. If you can't handle the majority (entirety?) of people not agreeing with you, then why create threads in the first place?

You've ignored all of our arguments so you can keep suggesting that someday, the Tau's drones will rise up and wipe them out.

The drones will not rebel without a rewriting of Tau fluff. It won't just happen.

Brother Coa wrote:You want prof that's not true: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Geth

Just a clarification: I haven't played the game Mass Effect, so I have no opinion of the game.
I just reject the statement, that a wikipedia article on that computer game is proof of what tau Drones in the 40k universe do.

Kroothawk wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:You want prof that's not true: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Geth

Just a clarification: I haven't played the game Mass Effect, so I have no opinion of the game.
I just reject the statement, that a wikipedia article on that computer game is proof of what tau Drones in the 40k universe do.

You should. It's a good game and the world kind of reminds me of the tau. Not like a one to one relationship though.

Brother Coa wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
You're assuming that Tau AIs are intelligent to the point of sentience.

They're currently not. They don't think of themselves as "slaves" to a "master". They just are.

I never said that, I said earlier in this thread that Tau Drones will become self aware in time - it is inevitable after all the upgrades and investments that Tau are putting in them.
And since Tau don't know how machines will react or evolve ( they ain't us - they don't have first hand expiriance ) there is a good chance they won't even notice that before it's to late.

WHAT UPGRADES!??? Tau Drones have not changed at all since they were released. There are no mentions of advanced drones in the fluff with better technology and programming. Where is it mentioned? Where? Nowhere! This is baseless speculation. You keep saying that the Tau are upgrading their drones? PROVE IT.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:@killkrazy the quote I posted above states drones have artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence is considered to have Five distinct areas/attributes these are Learning, reasoning, problem solving, perception and language understanding. Ergo tau drones may learn.

However this does not mean they would "rebel" nor does it imply any act of "rebellion" would be violent in nature.

Like I said before this could range from wholesale murder (extreme), being stubbornly unhelpful (like when your computer refuses to boot up) or even remarkably helpful when they ignore their program to execute tasks in a more efficient manner (still technically rebelling).

So the written fluff has left allowances for it to happen, it is unlikely due to the way fluff is written these days.

Just because something is unlikely it does not preclude it from happening.

Do not confuse learning with consciousness. Machine learning is not only not necessary for something to be considered AI, but it doesn't mean that they will develop sentience/exceed their programming. Machine learning means that an AI can develop and refine methods for determining a desired outcome. I.E. - If the AI is capable of learning that a certain task results in a certain outcome and the efficiency of the task improves with experience. In the case of a gun drone for example, the desired outcome is the death of an opponent of the Tau Empire. Assuming that a drone is capable of learning (which would violate the definition of drone in the first place), it would learn that killing a member of the Tau Empire does not result in the outcome of the death of an opponent of the Tau Emprie, and as such would not repeat the behavior, it has learned that killing Tau does not lead to its programmed goal. There would never be an opportunity for a Drone to develop a theory that results in the destruction of the Tau Empire as a means of bringing about the death of the Tau Empire. That would require the ability to reason, which is not the same as learning.

Nerivant wrote:
You asked for our thoughts on the matter, for everyone to comment on your idea. If you can't handle the majority (entirety?) of people not agreeing with you, then why create threads in the first place?

You've ignored all of our arguments so you can keep suggesting that someday, the Tau's drones will rise up and wipe them out.

The drones will not rebel without a rewriting of Tau fluff. It won't just happen.

And was it so hard to say that? Without necessarily arguments and such. And can handle the majorities's not agreeing, this is why I posted this thread - to learn everyone's opinion. But everyone atacked me and I must clarify myself. And when I did you attacked me. You ask me why would Drones rebel in first place I give several examples why robots rebel in several other sci-fi ( Mass Effect, Matrix, Terminator ) and you me up because of that?

And this thread was made as a question "will it happened" witch means it's going a little beyond fluff who is basically standing still in M41. But I guess you are to stick to it to imagine what will happened next...


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chaos0xomega wrote:
WHAT UPGRADES!??? Tau Drones have not changed at all since they were released. There are no mentions of advanced drones in the fluff with better technology and programming. Where is it mentioned? Where? Nowhere! This is baseless speculation. You keep saying that the Tau are upgrading their drones? PROVE IT.

Well I can't because there is no fluff on that as well on 90% of Tau. I just assumed that they are upgrading them regular ( programming and sucj ) since Tau upgrade all their tech ( Railgun for example ). Or it is safe to assume that Tau are not upgrading all their tech at all? In that case it will take them even longer to catch up with the Imperium.

There are a number of computers/robots out there right now which are capable of "learning" - you show them objects and say the name and the next time they see that object they will be able to tell you what it is, or you put them through a maze and the next time they will recognise the maze and follow through on the correct path.

They are both examples of systems whereby a computer is "learning" but neither are AI and neither has even the remotest possibility of gaining sentience - their programming is far too restricted, and their hardware is not capable of supporting the complex programs and immense processing power required for a "sentient" computer.

Tau drones are the same - limited hardware with limited "smart" programming.

The reason that drones and other Tau machinery are considered to have "AI" is because any complex machinery in the Imperium is controlled by some kind of cybornetic mesh of human brain and machine - one of the BL Last Chancer novels has some humans aboard a Tau starship and the soldiers are really uneasy about a door that opens on its own with no "machine spirit" to guide it.

If you want an out of universe example (since that apparently proves things about the 40K universe), most of my computer games have "AI" enemies and allies - virtual soldiers who will do certain things when given certain input. If I throw a grenade near them they will either duck into cover or pick it up and try and throw it back. If I sit in position they will try and flank me, etc. Add in some hardware and you have a Tau drone.

I've never once had a game rebel and take over my TV...

SilverMK2 wrote:There are a number of computers/robots out there right now which are capable of "learning" - you show them objects and say the name and the next time they see that object they will be able to tell you what it is, or you put them through a maze and the next time they will recognise the maze and follow through on the correct path.

They are both examples of systems whereby a computer is "learning" but neither are AI and neither has even the remotest possibility of gaining sentience - their programming is far too restricted, and their hardware is not capable of supporting the complex programs and immense processing power required for a "sentient" computer.

Tau drones are the same - limited hardware with limited "smart" programming.

The reason that drones and other Tau machinery are considered to have "AI" is because any complex machinery in the Imperium is controlled by some kind of cybornetic mesh of human brain and machine - one of the BL Last Chancer novels has some humans aboard a Tau starship and the soldiers are really uneasy about a door that opens on its own with no "machine spirit" to guide it.

If you want an out of universe example (since that apparently proves things about the 40K universe), most of my computer games have "AI" enemies and allies - virtual soldiers who will do certain things when given certain input. If I throw a grenade near them they will either duck into cover or pick it up and try and throw it back. If I sit in position they will try and flank me, etc. Add in some hardware and you have a Tau drone.

I've never once had a game rebel and take over my TV...

Ok, this sounds reasonable. Thanks.
And what would be your opinion if Tau continue to upgrade them? Will they became AI at some time? ( let us go in M42 ).

Brother Coa wrote:
You ask me why would Drones rebel in first place I give several examples why robots rebel in several other sci-fi ( Mass Effect, Matrix, Terminator ) and you me up because of that?

YES. Why don't you understand that those are not valid examples for the point you are trying to make?

Nerivant wrote:
YES. Why don't you understand that those are not valid examples for the point you are trying to make?

I know that, I am asking for 500- 1000 years in the future, jezzz.............

Brother Coa, You have been repeating one argument...no assumption as your reasoning for this for 5 pages.
people have been adding new arguments and have multiple times statet that your assumption is not assumed by them now can you give an argument within 40K rather than a Bioware roleplay game?

plus i think drones don't learn they have a bunch of routines which can be better amplified because of teamwork/linking it's like triggers:
Enemy: shoot
obstacle: shoot at angle
losing several drones: retreat

true AI is not in development in the empire according to fluff, they are however working to upgrade routines, AKA more triggers, better reaction to triggers, better performance of porgrammed action.
Now if you would give an argument against this that actualy comes from 40k and is not abaut ancient humans (because human =/= Tau) then you can pack up your hate and leave.
lastly i would be more interested whether should an intelligence form, Wil it be unreasonable and start killing it's masters/creators.

Brother Coa wrote:Ok, this sounds reasonable. Thanks.
And what would be your opinion if Tau continue to upgrade them? Will they became AI at some time? ( let us go in M42 ).

You can do pretty much anything with "what ifs".

What is more likely than drones somehow being upgraded to the point of being true AI and rebelling is the big city computers being developed to the point of becoming true AI. For one thing the city computers are already complex, are already close to AI and already have the kinds of learning and processing powers required for sentience. Though the Tau are quite careful and methodical, so I would imagine that they would have strict software and hardware limits in place to prevent this, or to prevent the AI from going bad.

In a thousand years, the Tau have created AI so advanced that they can field entire armies of billions upon billions of AI-driven battlesuits, and are poised to crush every other Empire in the Galaxy. Nid, Necron, Imperium, it matters not.

Unfortunately, five years before the ships launch, the Imperium perfects a bio-weapon that wipes out the Tau, the Kroot and the Vespid in a fortnight. There's no one left to press the "on" button, and they never built a drone to do that.

Oops.

This is why "what ifs" aren't a good place to start for a debate, because there's no limit to what can happen in the unknowable future.

Is it *possible* that the Drones are eventually built with an AI that leads them to eventually build a Skynet and have a Rise of the Machines sort of event? Sure.

Is it *likely*? No, not at all.

It's as possible, and likely, that the sole surviving Squat gets his hands on a wrecked Battlesuit, tinkers the hell out of it, and then takes on the entire Tau Empire in a massive battle of truly epic proportions, and lays waste to their entire force, digging his way out of the ground, smashing Vespids with a hammer, crushing Kroot in his meaty, but small, fists...

So, in other words, sure, it's *possible* but *exceedingly unlikely*, given the information we have about the Tau right now.