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We need Arbites.

Now.

And now rumours of Southampton about to kick off...
http://www.thisishampshire.net
/news/9184228.Hants_police_on_standy_after_London_riots_spread/

Seriously, this feels like a zombie film , with a virus spreading across a country and not knowing who's safe or who's next to go...

Please, for the sake of the rest of the world, don't pull a Doomsday and build a giant wall across your island. That seems like it could go wrong really quickly...

You guys still going to make jokes? What's going going pretty sad and pathetic if you ask me. There's areas of complete lawlessness. Some people are losing everything they have for no reason.

In all seriousness though, the higher-ups really need to get on top of this situation, since it's getting out of their hands... :/

KamikazeCanuck wrote:You guys still going to make jokes? What's going going pretty sad and pathetic if you ask me. There's areas of complete lawlessness. Some people are losing everything they have for no reason.

I blame the hockey fans

On a lighter note... my restaurant is in the middle of Manchester and we were called by our area manager and told to shut the doors and get the hell out of the city about an hour ago :S Didn't see much apart from a massive police presence on the way out.

It makes me really sad we have animals like this in England, it feels more like a war zone ATM. I hope everyone arrested gets the absolute maximum sentence possible.

whatwhat wrote:somebody please drop a nuke on texas so I can make a joke about frazzled and his family.

You even DREAM of dropping a nuke on Texas you better wake up and apologize. There is a reason the last major riot in Texas was in 1917.

Because in Texas everyone has guns!!!

A police station in Birmingham has now been set on fire. What the hell is wrong with people.

Azza007 wrote:A police station in Birmingham has now been set on fire. What the hell is wrong with people.

That's all I can think right now, what the hell is wrong with these animals? They're not even human in my eyes.

WarOne wrote:

dogma wrote:

WARORK93 wrote:
Sure the Governor was there...and maybe even the mayor of New Orleans...but did the local authorities have control of the situation? No, it was a "State of emergency" which is a nice way of saying that the local government needed some help.

So, no Katrina did not constitute "Martial law"...officially...but like Frazzled said IMO that boils down to semantics. Sure the local government still had control but its edicts were enforced by the national guard and the army, so make your own judgement.

Yes, it is a matter of semantics, but semantics are not unimportant. It is a matter of Americans confusing "martial law" with "aggressive law enforcement" they are not the same thing. They cannot be the same thing because, if they were, then all state law would be enforced by the presence of military forces operating at the whim of the state.

Not having local authorities in control of situation X does not indicate "martial law."

Katrina is a unique case of non-martial law martial law.

The state of Louisiana had no provision for martial law (not sure if they do now), but the state enacted powers under a State of Emergency that provided to police effective denial of typical Miranda rights and other things police typically do when detaining people and stopping looters. That's about as close as they got in Katrina to martial law.

That's kind of what I was getting at.

Henners91 wrote:We need Arbites.

Now.

Ask and you shall receive...

MrH wrote:

Azza007 wrote:A police station in Birmingham has now been set on fire. What the hell is wrong with people.

That's all I can think right now, what the hell is wrong with these animals? They're not even human in my eyes.

They want a fight and a free ipod. Nothing political about it in my eyes.

Apparently most of the rioters aren't even from Tottenham, they're coming in from other places to smash up the city (mainly Africa).

Connor McKane wrote:
You even DREAM of dropping a nuke on Texas you better wake up and apologize. There is a reason the last major riot in Texas was in 1917.

Because in Texas everyone has guns!!!

No, because in Texas the only thing more prevalent than guns is selective memory:

Whoops!

Whoops.

Unless "major riot" means "Riots which most states have never had."

I think the most pathetic thing I saw tonight, was a 'brave, mad?' Journalist asking folks why they where doing it while no police where around, and one girl gave the moronic reply, 'I'm getting my taxes back'

I have no words.


Liverpool, now, dang, I know we are all struggling at the moment, I'm not in the best of shape myself, but to decide looting is going to solve all your problems, just crazy.

Jazz is for Losers wrote:Apparently most of the rioters aren't even from Tottenham, they're coming in from other places to smash up the city (mainly Africa).

If that's true, and I mean if, will it be long before the armies called in to fight "an invading force"? No facts to base this on, not circulating rumours, scare tactics or propaganda etc, just a thought...

MrH wrote:

Azza007 wrote:A police station in Birmingham has now been set on fire. What the hell is wrong with people.

That's all I can think right now, what the hell is wrong with these animals? They're not even human in my eyes.

To me it seems like they're more human. How many animals do you know of that murder, rape and destroy not because they feel threatened or because they're hungry, but just because they can?

These people are simply being ruled by the human mind and emotions; their own minds and emotions, coupled with the fact they're surrounded by likeminded people which only fuels their passion for the acts they commit.

They're not animals, they're just humans who can no longer reason and think for themselves until the act they believe in and feel is righteous, is complete.

dogma wrote:No, because in Texas the only thing more prevalent than guns is selective memory

Sounds like everyone needs to step back and not get into a discourse about regional collective amnesia.

WarOne wrote:
Katrina is a unique case of non-martial law martial law.

The state of Louisiana had no provision for martial law (not sure if they do now), but the state enacted powers under a State of Emergency that provided to police effective denial of typical Miranda rights and other things police typically do when detaining people and stopping looters. That's about as close as they got in Katrina to martial law.

I disagree, Katrina was a care of the military doing what it felt was necessary to keep order. It had no necessary legal backing, though the reality is that those folk who opposed it likely had insufficient funds to oppose it legally.

Avatar 720 wrote:

MrH wrote:

Azza007 wrote:A police station in Birmingham has now been set on fire. What the hell is wrong with people.

That's all I can think right now, what the hell is wrong with these animals? They're not even human in my eyes.

To me it seems like they're more human. How many animals do you know of that murder, rape and destroy not because they feel threatened or because they're hungry, but just because they can?

These people are simply being ruled by the human mind and emotions; their own minds and emotions, coupled with the fact they're surrounded by likeminded people which only fuels their passion for the acts they commit.

They're not animals, they're just humans who can no longer reason and think for themselves until the act they believe in and feel is righteous, is complete.

I guess you've never heard that expression before if you felt the need to right an essay about it.

Damn, heres hoping the madness ends soon (although i have a sneaking suspicion it wont).

MrH wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:

MrH wrote:

Azza007 wrote:A police station in Birmingham has now been set on fire. What the hell is wrong with people.

That's all I can think right now, what the hell is wrong with these animals? They're not even human in my eyes.

To me it seems like they're more human. How many animals do you know of that murder, rape and destroy not because they feel threatened or because they're hungry, but just because they can?

These people are simply being ruled by the human mind and emotions; their own minds and emotions, coupled with the fact they're surrounded by likeminded people which only fuels their passion for the acts they commit.

They're not animals, they're just humans who can no longer reason and think for themselves until the act they believe in and feel is righteous, is complete.

I guess you've never heard that expression before if you felt the need to right an essay about it.

I apologise for giving my opinion to the conversation in a way that offended you.

Do you wish for me to rephrase my answer?

And now Leeds, it's finally got to me... :-S

It's in chapeltown which is the other side of town, I never expected it to get this far! (Note, I don't think anything's happened, but 100 kids in a multi cultural area in need of development, how long before the first hit is thrown?)

Avatar 720 wrote:

I apologise for giving my opinion to the conversation in a way that offended you.

Do you wish for me to rephrase my answer?

No need to apologize, and you didn't offend me. I just wanted to point out it's just a saying, I'm not actually comparing them to cats and dogs LOL. My point is a normal human beings don't act like this.

Leeds aswell?

It's the night of the livid chavs.

I should probably point out that I'm only going by what I'm reading online, I have no eye witness account of it

Yeah, that pisses me off so much, he doesn't even give enough of a feth to cut his holiday short.

He already has abandoned his holiday AFAIK.

I expect to find reports of him mass-mailing angry letters in the near future.

Avatar 720 wrote:He already has abandoned his holiday AFAIK.

I expect to find reports of him mass-mailing angry letters in the near future.

Maybe he has now, but earlier he said he wasn't going to cut his holiday short.

Yeah he came back today I think, though Clegg was walking through (I think) Hackney yesterday talking to residents and shop keepers. Finally, he's given me a reason to be happy about voting for him lol