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Revarien wrote:

pretre wrote:Also, no codex update for SoB. Seems strange.

We is sad pandas :(

Not even possibly fake rules care about them

jspyd3rx wrote:No more half strength on blast markers if the hole isn't over a vehicle. Instead, its a -3.

I probably would have gone with the simpler "Can only ever glance if the centre dot is not touching", but -3 is better than nothing.

Again, fixes a rule I hated from 4th/5th.

CT GAMER wrote:Another thing I was overjoyed to see: woods/forests/etc. are classified as "dense" again meaning you can't draw LOS through them!!!

You actually might have to maneouver again rather then set up shop in a parking lot...

Seriously? This is official now? My friend and I always played forest like this, ever since 3rd edition. It's the best way to block fire lines down the table without covering it in 3 story tall buildings.

agnosto wrote:In your world maybe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOC_(computing)

Don't know where you got the hair up your ass, but read the article:

Wikipedia wrote:DOC (computing)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is outdated. Please update this article to reflect recent events or newly available information. Please see the talk page for more information. (October 2009)

In computing, DOC or doc (an abbreviation of 'document') is a filename extension for word processing documents; most commonly for Microsoft Word. Historically, the extension was used for documentation in plain-text format, particularly of programs or computer hardware, on a wide range of operating systems.

There you go. Outdated Wiki article that says exactly what I said, that Doc is also an abbreviation for doc that has also been used to represent formats for a large number of programs.

Dare ya to google "doc" and see how many results refer to just "document". Anyway, like I said, go ahead and be right it appears to be important to you.

Top result was for Google Documents. 8th result for your Wiki article and the rest had nothing to do with documents or .doc.

Either way, what's your beef?

Whoa dude, dont copy paste the whole darn thing!

edit: jesus christ someone delete that post

pretre wrote:Also, no codex update for SoB. Seems strange.

If it was really written in May, then the lack of SoB and Necrons (and Black Templar...) makes sense, as those books weren't finalized yet.

Been browsing through and noticed this interesting hint of a new Tyranid unit (that agrees with the 'nid unit in WD rumors that have been going around):

"There is a wide variety of transports on the
battlefields of Warhammer 40,000 - the staunch
Rhinos of the Imperium of Man, the lightning fast
Raiders of the Dark Eldar, or the caterpillar-like
Cerebores of the Tyranid swarm fleets."

MasterSlowPoke wrote:edit: jesus christ someone delete that post

pretre wrote:Also, no codex update for SoB. Seems strange.

If it was really written in May, then the lack of SoB and Necrons (and Black Templar...) makes sense, as those books weren't finalized yet.

But it has Tesla weapons?

pretre, enough with the 'doc' stuff! No one cares. You're just making this go on longer and going off-topic.

H.B.M.C. wrote:pretre, enough! No one cares. You're just making this go on longer and going off-topic.

Aww, but you care, H.B.M.C! At least enough to berate me.

Look at fire sweep special rule.
A model with a suitable weapon may execute a
fire sweep instead of its normal attacks if its unit
has assaulted this turn. The model makes D6
attacks regardless of its Attack value or any bonus
attacks. The attacks are made at the Initiative
value of the model and hit automatically. Roll
separately to determine how many attacks the
model makes if it assaults again in a later turn.
the restrictions of these conditions
Could pyrovores be viable?

Mechanicum Jon wrote:Been browsing through and noticed this interesting hint of a new Tyranid unit (that agrees with the 'nid unit in WD rumors that have been going around):

Cerebores of the Tyranid swarm fleets."

Apparently, they exist in the 40k card game



Someone's interpretation of it

Sad to see there is nothing on my favorite marine chapter...but maybe that means my book is next, no? Excited for that-and to think I just grabbed the BT upgrade box for about $23 today
Haven't looked through the full "leak" yet, but I'm excited for possibilities. I prefer troops over tanks, so if the modifications are accurate, as are BT rumors, I will be enjoying my black tide something immensely...

jspyd3rx wrote:
Could pyrovores be viable?

Lots of these changes seem to favor the Tyranid book, for now.

Flame weapons in HTH. Some of this actually reads like the stuff we've been doing for years.

kenshin620 wrote:

Revarien wrote:

pretre wrote:Also, no codex update for SoB. Seems strange.

We is sad pandas :(

Not even possibly fake rules care about them

I know! That's the saddening part!

In all ernest... I'm halfway though this thing... and I really really can't see much that will change sisters of battle anyway... maybe adding some SP's and some fortifications, but... er... yeah, even outflanking in my immolators won't be a problem with my Dominions (weird how the scout and outflank things are worded though... scouting units that deploy on their dedicated transport give scout to the transport and scout says it gives outflank.... but outflank says you can't outflank in a vehicle unless the vehicle had it to begin with... but.... then it's given scout so it's given outflank?! wtf?!)

Otherwise, i kinda am liking the rules... loving deep strike stuff... some cool stuff for deamons that like to drop danger close... no more 'auto destroyed', but be prepared to get torn apart by defensive fire.

In a way I could see it. Quite a bit of it reminds of the not horrible parts of 2nd edition. On the other hand it could be a total fake like a certain other codex formatted relatively properly. And speaking of formatting it's kinda all over the place.

I'd be interested. Though I haven't gotten to the bidding thing that would be something I'd hope that could be avoided in a tournament format since it would add lots of time to the game.

Bwahaha, Termagaunts with preferred enemy? Naw, that ain't broken.Oh, flame weapons work on transports.

Ha - seems like they took all of the neat Necron powers and turned them into Strategems. Night Fighting for the game, making the enemy be in Difficult Terrain, etc.


And I love that some of the strategems require you to bring the terrain piece with you to the game! The GW landing pad is perfect for the 'Skyshield Landing Pad' strategem! And remember. . .

Leaked Text wrote:If you haven’t brought fitting terrain to
the game, you cannot choose this stratagem.

I bet Creed's gonna be a boss in 6th ed.

He's a tactical genius, ya know.

puma713 wrote:Reserves have changed a bit too. You have a pool of dice - one for each unit in reserve. But you can assign up to 3 of your dice to your units to bring them in. Example:

I have 9 Squads in reserve, so my Reserve Pool is 9 dice. But I only want 3 units to come in this turn. Therefore, I simply give 3 dice to the 3 units I want in. As long as one of those 3 dice roll a 4+ on Turn 2, I get them in.

Basically, you can manage your reserves now.

I... really really like that rule.

puma713 wrote:And I love that some of the strategems require you to bring the terrain piece with you to the game! The GW landing pad is perfect for the 'Skyshield Landing Pad' strategem! And remember. . .

Hey, at least the text says 'brought' rather than 'bought'.

What I like about this is that the stratagem system being included allows for a lot of play variation.

They could release custom scenarios in WD with new stratagems for that scenario, or they could allow Apoc./cityfight stratagems as options as well, etc.

Lots of potential for non-standard play and variety of play game to game.

Revarien wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:

Revarien wrote:

pretre wrote:Also, no codex update for SoB. Seems strange.

We is sad pandas :(

Not even possibly fake rules care about them

I know! That's the saddening part!

In all ernest... I'm halfway though this thing... and I really really can't see much that will change sisters of battle anyway... maybe adding some SP's and some fortifications, but... er... yeah, even outflanking in my immolators won't be a problem with my Dominions (weird how the scout and outflank things are worded though... scouting units that deploy on their dedicated transport give scout to the transport and scout says it gives outflank.... but outflank says you can't outflank in a vehicle unless the vehicle had it to begin with... but.... then it's given scout so it's given outflank?! wtf?!)

Otherwise, i kinda am liking the rules... loving deep strike stuff... some cool stuff for deamons that like to drop danger close... no more 'auto destroyed', but be prepared to get torn apart by defensive fire.

I take it back: I just read about pistols in close combat, grenades against monstrous creatures and flame weapons being incredibly boss... Sisters are gonna freaking rock face!

I love that rule...one of my biggest complaints about the game is that you can't use reserves the way reserves are supposed to be used.

You need a BS of 6 to hit a Flyer on 4+

Revarien wrote:Sisters are gonna freaking rock face!

Yeah... if you ever get a real Codex.

*insert Ork equivalent of trollface.jpg here*

puma713 wrote:You need a BS of 6 to hit a Flyer on 4+

Why is that a bad thing? Shooting at planes ain't easy!

Little less than halfway through the book right now, but it looks to really favour hordey armies so far. Considering GW, not surprised.

The one thing I'm really miffed about is that with the wound allocation being fixed, my two favourite units, Nobz and Paladins, are no longer viable in a competitive environment. I understand that wound allocation needed to be fixed, but on a personal note, the two armies that I actually play frequently are now no longer any good.

That reserves rule suddenly makes the Trygon tunnel worthwhile.

Don't kill the Ethereal or Aun'Va! That will suck hard if facing Tau.
Their FAQ rocks.

And lictors/deathleaper to a degree. I might actually hang onto my nids if this goes through.