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d-usa wrote:Next email:

http://policereports.dallaspolice.net/publicresults/resultscadpublic.aspx

The rest will be visable on monday when records opens. Call the dallas police to verify.

Need more proof?
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Daniel - Three Stage Studios

Link shows no results.

Actually, no, I have no idea where that leads to.

I know, just posting it to show his emails.

It isn't the search, actually, but I would definitely expect more coding.

There is an Officer Kenneth Dietrich on the Dallas PD rolls since August 2009 as a uniformed officer.

Call the Dallas Pd and if a complaint was filed they will have a record of it and the outcome. You can ask to speak with the officer about the case because you have new info. They should look up that complaint call and help. Talk with the officer and if he did not call you then file a report with Dallas pd and your local pd.

As a 11 year veteran of military and civilian law enforcement an officer would file a report but would never call the offending party threatening action against them especially outside of their jurisdiction.

Rick, you have my 100% support on this.

http://policereports.dallaspolice.net/publicreports/publicreportcall.aspx?servicenumber=0199585&dpdyear=2012&svalue=9538950|40|041400|4404

Report, on my cell phone now so I cannot copy the fun emails filled with cursing.

Also, since he wanted me to post the proof that he called I claim no responsibility for his address being included in the report...

Huh.

I still feel that this is unjust, however, from what Rick has been reporting.

However, I still can't find it through searching the last name 'Mandelbaum'. It's a call report, not a notice of any offense being committed, yet 'Daniel' still seems to believe it's evidence.

so looks like he isnt a stranger to the law ?

http://www.dallascounty.org/criminalBackgroundSearch/search.do;jsessionid=C74A62F5A7D05ACC50CE023868954B58.dcdbtest

ah poo ok so that dosnt work ,,,just enter his name and details it comes up with a assualt cahrge and a drugs charge.

The link above just brings up a server error for me... I assume others can see it then?

Edit: the first link to the report, rather than Curnow's - which just takes me to the search page for DC.org

SilverMK2 wrote:The link above just brings up a server error for me... I assume others can see it then?

Works for me, also know his full name and date of birth now as well as an assault and drugs possession charge. Damn the internet is good at digging stuff up on people. Well at least he's known to the police, you might even be tempted to suggest where all Alpharius's money went...

Yes now that you have everything you need to file formal charges for fraud and theft I would file. With the number of incidents of theft and fraud the local district atty will file. Plus if most of it is across state lines, paid with over the internet it is a Federal case of Wire Fraud. And since some of you sent miniatures across state lines it would be a federal charge also. With his report to the Local PD and not denying the the key issues of the case he has opened himself up.

Plus you have his name, address and birthday. Start filing small claims suits in your respective counties and send him the summons to court. If he fails to show then you win by default then report him to a collection agency for collection of the funds for money you sent or the cost of the replacement of the minis you sent. I do not believe you can write off court awarded costs in bankruptcy.

A report means nothing... If anything it helps. He made a fake call posing as a police officer, based on it being from a CA code and telling Rick not to post on the net, etc. That's a felony.

At this point he seems like a TV villian that could have gotten away with it, except he just couldn't help himself from taunting the Hero one last time.

holy poo !!!
type in michael Mandelbaum then check under michael gary mandelbaum aged 54 so his dad ? charges include telephone harassment ,harassment,cheque fraud,sale of controled substances,drug dealing.theft misdomenor.

run in the family ? lol

I'm also behind Rick 100%.

whitedragon wrote:

LuckyNo.5 wrote:
Lots of Stuff

So....after all that...not a single apology to all the folks stating to avoid MWC from this thread?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/408906.page

The guy has said he was wrong, and has added information about what happened in the thread (which you casually dismissed as "Lots of Stuff"). That's more than a lot of people would do if they found out the wool had been pulled over their eyes.

I also imagine most of the people in that thread are/were more worried about this Daniel character than whether someone he fooled apologies to them for being fooled.

CURNOW wrote:holy poo !!!
type in michael Mandelbaum then check under michael gary mandelbaum aged 54 so his dad ? charges include telephone harassment ,harassment,cheque fraud,sale of controled substances,drug dealing.theft misdomenor.

run in the family ? lol

To be fair, every single one of those was dismissed or quashed. That's a bit relevant when mentioning things someone has been charged with

Charax wrote:

CURNOW wrote:holy poo !!!
type in michael Mandelbaum then check under michael gary mandelbaum aged 54 so his dad ? charges include telephone harassment ,harassment,cheque fraud,sale of controled substances,drug dealing.theft misdomenor.

run in the family ? lol

To be fair, every single one of those was dismissed or quashed. That's a bit relevant when mentioning things someone has been charged with

That is quite true, but keep in mind the fact that the vast majority of people posting on these forums (and everyone else for that matter) has never so much as been investigated for a crime, much less charged. I could shrug it off as a mistake if there were a single dismissed charge on his record, but this guy has more than a half dozen.

Saldiven wrote:That is quite true, but keep in mind the fact that the vast majority of people posting on these forums (and everyone else for that matter) has never so much as been investigated for a crime, much less charged. I could shrug it off as a mistake if there were a single dismissed charge on his record, but this guy has more than a half dozen.

well, for a start, a dozen is 12, he has 5, half a dozen is 6. In what reality does he have "more than a half dozen"?

secondly, not mentioning that they were dismissed or quashed has the effect of distorting the facts about him, which is just not a sensible or decent thing to do. Can you draw some conclusions based on the number of charges? sure, but those conclusions will probably not be accurate or reflect the reality of the situation without complete knowledge of the circumstances. we don't know why they were dismissed, we don't know who brought them, but the facts are: no convictions were made. It could be that the charges were brought maliciously, it could be that there was no merit to them, it could be that there was insufficient evidence - we have no way of knowing.

I may be labouring the point, but in a thread where people are digging up someone's background and discussing legal action, it's kind of important to mention pertinent details like "Every single charge against Daniel's dad was dismissed".

Sorry to ruin your glib little snark about hereditary criminality with some reality, but do at least attempt to stay classy.

Charax wrote:

Saldiven wrote:That is quite true, but keep in mind the fact that the vast majority of people posting on these forums (and everyone else for that matter) has never so much as been investigated for a crime, much less charged. I could shrug it off as a mistake if there were a single dismissed charge on his record, but this guy has more than a half dozen.

well, for a start, a dozen is 12, he has 5, half a dozen is 6. In what reality does he have "more than a half dozen"?

secondly, not mentioning that they were dismissed or quashed has the effect of distorting the facts about him, which is just not a sensible or decent thing to do. Can you draw some conclusions based on the number of charges? sure, but those conclusions will probably not be accurate or reflect the reality of the situation without complete knowledge of the circumstances. we don't know why they were dismissed, we don't know who brought them, but the facts are: no convictions were made. It could be that the charges were brought maliciously, it could be that there was no merit to them, it could be that there was insufficient evidence - we have no way of knowing.

I may be labouring the point, but in a thread where people are digging up someone's background and discussing legal action, it's kind of important to mention pertinent details like "Every single charge against Daniel's dad was dismissed".

Sorry to ruin your glib little snark about hereditary criminality with some reality, but do at least attempt to stay classy.

A charge can also be "dismissed" because of a plea and deal or admission into some sort of program or community service.

Saldiven wrote:

Charax wrote:

CURNOW wrote:holy poo !!!
type in michael Mandelbaum then check under michael gary mandelbaum aged 54 so his dad ? charges include telephone harassment ,harassment,cheque fraud,sale of controled substances,drug dealing.theft misdomenor.

run in the family ? lol

To be fair, every single one of those was dismissed or quashed. That's a bit relevant when mentioning things someone has been charged with

That is quite true, but keep in mind the fact that the vast majority of people posting on these forums (and everyone else for that matter) has never so much as been investigated for a crime, much less charged. I could shrug it off as a mistake if there were a single dismissed charge on his record, but this guy has more than a half dozen.

Then you best get the rope out and sharpen the pitchforks.

This sort of thing reminds me of the mob that drove the pediatrician from their house in order to protect their children.

It also also dakka up to potential legal proceedings.

my point was ,,the cases that were brought against this michael seem to be of the same kind of things that daniel has been accused of here and if it is the same michael charged with ie fraud ,telephone harrassmant ,drugs charges .

and just because the criminal charges for the fraud/harassmant were "dismissed" it dosnt mean that a civil case wasnt brought against them .

marielle wrote:Then you best get the rope out and sharpen the pitchforks.

This sort of thing reminds me of the mob that drove the pediatrician from their house in order to protect their children.

Don't overreact and start feeling too much sympathy. This situation is hardly like a bunch of idiots confusing a completely innocent 'paediatrician' with a 'paedophile'. For a start we know that Daniel Mandelbaum has been ripping people off to the value of thousands and his father has been shouting and threatening towards members of this forum over the phone. So that fact his father has been charged with such similar things is of some interest if not particularly useful.

I think the main thing is not to lose focus, his father isn't particularly relevant to the problem at hand. It's Daniel Mandelbaum who has been running the scams that have stolen from the community, not his father, as far as we know.

Please remember rule #1, and stick to the facts. Language like "glib little shark" is not going to help matters either way, also. Be polite, please...

We also should not speculate, but it is helpful to know about past charges that were brought that mirrors current behavior.

CURNOW wrote:my point was ,,the cases that were brought against this michael seem to be of the same kind of things that daniel has been accused of here and if it is the same michael charged with ie fraud ,telephone harrassmant ,drugs charges .

and just because the criminal charges for the fraud/harassmant were "dismissed" it dosnt mean that a civil case wasnt brought against them .

Yes and my point is that the data protection act is there to specifically stop websites from encouraging people in just such supposition.


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Howard A Treesong wrote:

marielle wrote:Then you best get the rope out and sharpen the pitchforks.

This sort of thing reminds me of the mob that drove the pediatrician from their house in order to protect their children.

Don't overreact and start feeling too much sympathy. This situation is hardly like a bunch of idiots confusing a completely innocent 'paediatrician' with a 'paedophile'. For a start we know that Daniel Mandelbaum has been ripping people off to the value of thousands and his father has been shouting and threatening towards members of this forum over the phone. So that fact his father has been charged with such similar things is of some interest if not particularly useful.

I think the main thing is not to lose focus, his father isn't particularly relevant to the problem at hand. It's Daniel Mandelbaum who has been running the scams that have stolen from the community, not his father, as far as we know.

Is it not?

So fishing around in police database and highlighting details - that may or may not relate to the people involved, and making dark claims about no smoke without fire over allegations that have been legally dismissed. It strikes me that this kind of mob activity is exactly the same.

I realise it is boring, but it is far more useful to simply gather actual evidence and take it to the police. The law might be an ass, and it might slow, but it beats playing Secret Seven.

well i havnt published any of these peoples personal information only linked to a goverment website that makes certain information about people freely avalible to the public domain.

oh and from the data protection act in the section of exemptions to the act.
Section 29 - Crime and taxation. Data processed for the prevention or detection of crime, the apprehension or prosecution of offenders, or the assessment or collection of taxes are exempt from the first data protection principle.

nevermind the fact that it only covers the holding of personal information . i dont hold this information i am simply showing the agreved partys where some of this freely avalible information is avalible . and thus pointing out coincedeces bettween the information and the above events.
also the data protection act 1998 only covers residences of the UK and information held within the E.U.

Moreso, it's Texas. Probably one of the worst places to be a criminal what with all the gun toting citizens and incredibly accessible information if you've ever been arrested. Texas laughs at your idea of protecting criminal information.

Anyway,

As stated, the Dallas PD site search doesn't show any actual file being made by Daniel or his dad. All it shows is that at some point Michael called them, and on that form there aren't any reference codes for what it is he called about. Basically it's a pdf with his name and an address on it

As mentioned, Dallas PD have zero jurisdiction in OK, and as such wouldn't be calling Rick, AND if they did it would be from a Dallas PD phone number which would be publicly accessible. Also, I'm fairly certain that any officer here in the US MUST provide their badge number at any time when asked, so if you get another call Rick, just get a badge number as well as precinct.

As for Ebay, the Double.Your.Bits account was selling stuff as recently as a few days ago, but no longer has any current auctions up, which may have to do with his paypal getting locked out(since ebay owns paypal).

Also, for the public record on Daniel:
For the charge of Drug Possession he pleaded PGBC Agreed plea of guilty before the court.

EDIT:
Apologies for anyone who read this post earlier. I had my addresses mixed up. The place used to file the report was:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/a-and-b-cleaning-services-dallas

I had this mixed up with Chabad of Dallas which is across the street. My bad.

Aerethan wrote:As stated, the Dallas PD site search doesn't show any actual file being made by Daniel or his dad. All it shows is that at some point Michael called them, and on that form there aren't any reference codes for what it is he called about. Basically it's a pdf with his name and an address on it

As mentioned, Dallas PD have zero jurisdiction in OK, and as such wouldn't be calling Rick, AND if they did it would be from a Dallas PD phone number which would be publicly accessible. Also, I'm fairly certain that any officer here in the US MUST provide their badge number at any time when asked, so if you get another call Rick, just get a badge number as well as precinct.

As for Ebay, the Double.Your.Bits account was selling stuff as recently as a few days ago, but no longer has any current auctions up, which may have to do with his paypal getting locked out(since ebay owns paypal).

Also, for the public record on Daniel:
For the charge of Drug Possession he pleaded PGBC Agreed plea of guilty before the court.

Thanks Aerethan, that is all very helpful. Facts are good, let's stick to the facts!

At this point, I think all the information has come out, and if anyone has been victimized by Daniel they could contact any number of people posting in this thread for his information, if needed, and then contact his local police department.

So there may not be much reason for this to continue to remain open, but it is very, Very good to have the facts available about this person, in case they try to scam others in the future. Additionally, his behavior since being exposed may be grounds for criminal charges... but that's for those he has been harassing to decide whether or not they want to go forward with. Personally, I think a quick call to the police would do the trick, given the information that has come forth.

Aerethan wrote:Moreso, it's Texas. Probably one of the worst places to be a criminal what with all the gun toting citizens and incredibly accessible information if you've ever been arrested. Texas laughs at your idea of protecting criminal information.

Anyway,

As stated, the Dallas PD site search doesn't show any actual file being made by Daniel or his dad. All it shows is that at some point Michael called them, and on that form there aren't any reference codes for what it is he called about. Basically it's a pdf with his name and address on it.

As mentioned, Dallas PD have zero jurisdiction in OK, and as such wouldn't be calling Rick, AND if they did it would be from a Dallas PD phone number which would be publicly accessible. Also, I'm fairly certain that any officer here in the US MUST provide their badge number at any time when asked, so if you get another call Rick, just get a badge number as well as precinct.

As for Ebay, the Double.Your.Bits account was selling stuff as recently as a few days ago, but no longer has any current auctions up, which may have to do with his paypal getting locked out(since ebay owns paypal).

Also, for the public record on Daniel:
For the charge of Drug Possession he pleaded PGBC Agreed plea of guilty before the court.

He said his badge # was 9933, and that he was in the North Dallas precinct. His phone # was a 616 Mi. area code, and the voice mail stated his name was "Jay".
Didn't sound like a cop to me.

I really appreciate all the support from you guys. It means alot.

And to LuckyNo.5:
Thank you for your message. I know exactly how you feel. I was a defender of Daniel's for a while. At first I believed him, then I did it hoping he'd not screw me.
And it was all for not. Everything everyone warned me about came to pass. I got screwed. Lesson learned. I know how hard it can be trying to support someone
who's hell bent and determined to destroy themsleves.

As for this whole Daniel mess going forward, I'm done dealing with him or any of the family at any level for any reason. I've figured out with my local cable provider
who I get my phone service through, there's a series of #'s I can press to mark a call as "harassing". They can then provide that list I've marked to local police agencies.
If they continue to call, I'll be left no choice. I will be happy to provide whatever help I can to this community and anyone who's been hurt by Daniel to the best of my
abilities. I will not be intimidated into letting one more person get the short end of the stick with Daniel and the rest of the Deliverance clan.

Good luck to everyone that has been ripped off by this person, whatever his name is, the sad thing is I bet there are a LOT more people out there that have been left without items and no refund, has anyone thought of doing a blog or fb page or something to collect more data on how many people have been left high n dry by his number of 'companies' and ebay accounts?.

Has the mod on here, sorry I forget his name seen this post with up to date information on here, 1,3k dollars is a fair amount to lose out on,

As to the charges against this Michael, I will only say one thing on, theres no smoke without a fire, there needs to be more fact finding and data collecting going on in regards to the people that have been ripped off, dates, payments used paypal address, whether it was ebay TSS MWC etc and most importantly how much they were/are owed.

So this is fun.

Dallas PD officer 9933 is Kenneth Dietrich, who works in the North Central office(214-670-7253). His shift is midnight to 8am. Definitely NOT "Jay".

This information took me all of 5 minutes and 2 calls to get.

So Rick, I would suggest calling Officer Dietrich and inform him that people are impersonating his badge number in harassment calls, and give him the information pertinent to those involved.

EDIT: it just occured to me.

Rick, what time was your call received from "Officer Jay"?

The report that was linked showed that the complaint was made at like 2:35pm or somewhere about there, 8-12-12, which is today.

If Officer 9933 was off at 8am, how did he take that call and why did he call you when he was off duty?

Interesting note, the complaint report link is now broken. http://policereports.dallaspolice.net/publicreports/publicreportcall.aspx?servicenumber=0199585&dpdyear=2012&svalue=9538950|40|041400|4404

Ok, after a little back reading, AlarmingRick said he was called by Officer Dietrich on a 616 number. So perhaps Daniel did a little more homework in that he used a real officers name and badge number, and also called during the hours that said officer was on duty. This means that, if Officer Dietrich denies calling you, then whoever called you made a mess for themselves, as the number can be traced if it isn't a burner cell.

I suppose I could call North Central again and ask if calling from personal phones is protocol or not, as well as threatening people out of jurisdiction.

EDIT2:

Just looked at the Service Assistance Information form that was shown to d-USA. All it shows is a case number. No officer name, badge number, or even time of incident. The online reports database doesn't show anything by that number, or with anyone named Mandelbaum. The idea that it won't be up until monday is false, as reports from the last 2 days are already up there. Service #0199585-Z would indeed have been made early this morning, but wasn't uploaded to the database, the closest number being 0199589-Z which was a vandalism complaint.

Who knows, maybe the Mandelbaums are friends with officer Dietrich, who just isn't smart about hiding his ID. If you give a fake name, why on earth would you give your real badge number?

Update: http://policereports.dallaspolice.net/publicreports/ReportOutput/1042570576.pdf Public records are fun. This report was taken by officer 8353 and clearly shows in the database, which makes me wonder why 0199585-Z doesn't show at all. There may be a decent reason for it, but without that reason it casts suspicion on 9933.
Also got confirmation that Officer Dietrich did in fact call Rick at 4am or whenever claiming to be "Jay". I'm sure his senior officer will enjoy that phone call.