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2014/12/21 07:17:03
Subject: Release of the movie "The Interview" derailed because of threats
I'm saying he is the last one to decry censorship based on his record.
The Obama Administration didn't censor anything. And, even if it did, the two situations are not comparable at all.
Relapse wrote: But based off all the other people we see doing illegal things Obama gives a free pass to, it smacks of a politically motivated persecution.
Which people has Obama given a "free pass" to? He certainly hasn't given a "free pass" to Sharpton.
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2014/12/21 07:42:44
Subject: Release of the movie "The Interview" derailed because of threats
I'm saying he is the last one to decry censorship based on his record.
The Obama Administration didn't censor anything. And, even if it did, the two situations are not comparable at all.
Relapse wrote: But based off all the other people we see doing illegal things Obama gives a free pass to, it smacks of a politically motivated persecution.
Which people has Obama given a "free pass" to? He certainly hasn't given a "free pass" to Sharpton.
SilverMK2 wrote: To be entirely fair, the rulers of NK are portrayed as gods in NK. Yet plenty of people have issues with films, books, people, concepts, which go against their religious beliefs; even to the point of violence.
They portray themselves as gods. But even if this was a real religion and not just a series of slavers getting their Big Brother on, it would still be wrong to capitulate. It is literally possible for someone to depict the gods of half a dozen religions in one big sacrilegious orgy and not be jailed for blasphemy, let alone be murdered by zealots, and that's a good thing. It is the exceptions - people who will murder a cartoonist for depicting Mohammed, or perform industrial sabotage and make terroristic threats against a foreign nation for producing art that offends them - that are the problem.
I would not open up the can of "no true religion" if I were you
The point being that people are happy to lampoon the religious beliefs of others and see one of the heads of said religion killed who would be the first to shout their outrage if someone did the same thing to their beliefs...
And as you confirm, there are even plenty of people and groups who would kill or go to war over their make believe friends... and indeed plenty of other irrational reasons.
Could be worse, my gods are part of a long running comic book and multibillion dollar moving franchise. Personally I think you Abrahamic faith types need to get a sense of humor so my sci fi kaiju epic "Space Pilot Jesus Christ Vs. Mecha Pontious*" can finally get green lit.
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That is, also, not at all the same. Take your disjointed outrage elsewhere, please.
You asked for an example of people he gave a free pass to concerning this country's laws. I provided an example of not just one, but millions and you now try to change the goalpost.
2014/12/21 16:25:52
Subject: Re:Release of the movie "The Interview" derailed because of threats
You asked for an example of people he gave a free pass to concerning this country's laws. I provided an example of not just one, but millions and you now try to change the goalpost.
Ah, so were using "free pass" in some generic sense. Given your citation of Sharpton, a specific person, I assumed you were referencing Presidential pardons.
Strangely, this makes your outrage even more derisible as it involves you, again, mashing separate issues together for little reason.
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2014/12/21 19:10:28
Subject: Release of the movie "The Interview" derailed because of threats
North Korea denies Sony hack but warns U.S. : Worse is coming By Josh Levs, CNN updated 3:15 PM EST, Sun December 21, 2014
North Korea warns it will go after the White House, Pentagon and "whole U.S. mainland"
It insists it was not involved in the Sony hack
President Obama says the attack was "cybervandalism," not war.
(CNN) -- North Korea is accusing the U.S. government of being behind the making of the movie "The Interview."
And, in a dispatch on state media, the totalitarian regime warns the United States that U.S. "citadels" will be attacked, dwarfing the hacking attack on Sony that led to the cancellation of the film's release.
While steadfastly denying involvement in the hack, North Korea accused U.S. President Barack Obama of calling for "symmetric counteraction."
"The DPRK has already launched the toughest counteraction. Nothing is more serious miscalculation than guessing that just a single movie production company is the target of this counteraction. Our target is all the citadels of the U.S. imperialists who earned the bitterest grudge of all Koreans," a report on state-run KCNA read.
"Our toughest counteraction will be boldly taken against the White House, the Pentagon and the whole U.S. mainland, the cesspool of terrorism," the report said, adding that "fighters for justice" including the "Guardians of Peace" -- a group that claimed responsibility for the Sony attack -- "are sharpening bayonets not only in the U.S. mainland but in all other parts of the world."
The FBI on Friday pinned blame on North Korea for a hack into Sony's computer systems.
In an interview broadcast Sunday on CNN, Obama called it "an act of cybervandalism," not war.
While the film was the work of private individuals, North Korea insisted otherwise in its statement. "The DPRK has clear evidence that the U.S. administration was deeply involved in the making of such dishonest reactionary movie," it said.
"The Interview" is a comedy, with plans for an attempted assassination of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un a central plot point.
In a CNN interview on Friday, Sony Entertainment CEO Michael Lynton said the studio had not "given in" to pressure from hackers and was still considering ways to distribute the movie.
But that's not what the company initially said after canceling the film's release.
On Wednesday night, a studio spokesperson said simply, "Sony Pictures has no further release plans for the film."
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2014/12/21 21:29:16
Subject: Re:Release of the movie "The Interview" derailed because of threats
Meh... just more flowery rhetoric from the North Korean government.
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2014/12/21 22:20:22
Subject: Release of the movie "The Interview" derailed because of threats
Uh... On Topic, does anyone know when this movie is hitting the streaming services?
KalashnikovMarine wrote: Could be worse, my gods are part of a long running comic book and multibillion dollar moving franchise. Personally I think you Abrahamic faith types need to get a sense of humor so my sci fi kaiju epic "Space Pilot Jesus Christ Vs. Mecha Pontious*" can finally get green lit.
*script inspired by and drafted with the aid of Yahtzee Croshaw
Make this a reality, please.
I'm totally seeing Stigmata Missile Barrage in the cards.
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The movie will surface either way and it will be torrented in the hundreds of thousands. Sony will still make a great loss of money and everyone who wants to see the movie will be able to do so. I do hope that Sony makes insane losses on the movie. Their disgusting cowardice fully justifies it.
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Yeah, it was mostly the Theaters. Sony just postponed the release(still not a great idea) but things snowballed after that.
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2014/12/23 00:56:09
Subject: Re:Release of the movie "The Interview" derailed because of threats
Yahoo wrote:
Sony Lawyer Says 'The Interview' Will Be Released at Some Point
By Alex Stedman
The Interview will see the light of day, according to Sony lawyer David Boies.
Boies appeared on NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday and claimed that Sony’s controversial comedy The Interview “will be distributed.” How it will be distributed, however, he admitted is unclear right now.
“Sony only delayed this,” Boies told Meet the Press host Chuck Todd. “Sony has been fighting to get this picture distributed. It will be distributed. How it’s going to be distributed, I don’t think anybody knows quite yet. But it’s going to be distributed.”
On Wednesday, the same day Sony pulled the Christmas Day theatrical release of The Interview, the studio said it has “no further release plans” for the comedy, which stars Seth Rogen and James Franco as a duo attempting to assassinate North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.
On Friday, Sony Pictures CEO Michael Lynton said Sony “immediately began actively surveying alternatives” to release the film on a different platform.
Boies also touched on President Obama’s comments on the aftermath of the Sony hack attack.
“I think that what we have to do is use the president’s recognition of the importance of this issue as a rallying cry, so that all Americans can unite against what is really a threat to our national security,” said Boies. “If state-sponsored criminal acts like this can be directed against Sony, it can be directed against anybody.”
Obama has been critical of Sony’s decision in the last week, saying the studio “made a mistake” in pulling the theatrical release of the film.
“We can not have a society in which some dictator some place can start imposing censorship in the United States, because if somebody is able to intimidate us out of releasing a satirical movie, imagine what they start doing once they see a documentary that they don’t like or news reports that they don’t like,” Obama said. “That’s now who we are. That’s not what America is about.”
Obama also called the hack attack “cyber-vandalism” rather than an act of war.
“I’m not debating whether it ought to be called ‘criminal,’ ‘vandalism,’ ‘terrorism.’ What we know is that that was a state-sponsored attack on the privacy of an American corporation and its employees,” Boies said.
Sony pulled The Interview’s theatrical release after a number of large exhibitors refused to show it, due to threats in which hackers evoked the memory of 9/11 in claiming they would attack theaters that showed the film.
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2014/12/23 19:07:27
Subject: Re:Release of the movie "The Interview" derailed because of threats
Wonder how Kim going to execute the whoever is in charge of the Internet.
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2014/12/23 20:36:15
Subject: Release of the movie "The Interview" derailed because of threats
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Wait? You can buy videos on Youtube now?
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