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Master Engineer with a Brace of Pistols





Northumberland

Great work, the warsuit looks fantastic in the Tigers colour scheme.

One and a half feet in the hobby


My Painting Log of various minis:
# Olthannon's Oscillating Orchard of Opportunity #

 
   
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver






Radical work, love it.

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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought






That’s a good looking bunch of guys and gals!

Goberts Gubbins - P&M Blog, started with Oldhammer, often Blackstone Fortress and Void Panther Marines, with side projects along the way 
   
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette





Australia

I love this project! Something about it is so wholesome and it just fills my bucket to read about the way you've taken the idea and run with it.

Grats on being mentioned on the OG page too - art imitates life imitates art all over again and the cycle continues!

The minis themselves are gorgeous too. I'll always have a soft spot for Goblin Green bases, but the tiger stripes and the spots of OSL all work together to make a really striking force.

Thanks for sharing!


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Bounding Assault Marine






Austria, Segmentum Solar

 youwashock wrote:
Awww, yeah! Looks great! The battlesuit makes a good centerpiece.
 Olthannon wrote:
Great work, the warsuit looks fantastic in the Tigers colour scheme.
 Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll wrote:
Radical work, love it.
 gobert wrote:
That’s a good looking bunch of guys and gals!
 tzurk wrote:
I love this project! Something about it is so wholesome and it just fills my bucket to read about the way you've taken the idea and run with it.

Grats on being mentioned on the OG page too - art imitates life imitates art all over again and the cycle continues!

The minis themselves are gorgeous too. I'll always have a soft spot for Goblin Green bases, but the tiger stripes and the spots of OSL all work together to make a really striking force.

Thanks for sharing!


Thanks everyone for your lovely comments! I was super happy about all the positive feedback I got on the combat patrol Sorry for not responding in such a long time, but I keep bouncing between different projects and trying to get stuff done, which takes time away from actually posting here and showing off what is already finished! However, now I’m back with pictures today, so hopefully I can make up for it

Before we take a look at said photos, I want to draw attention to Mr. Kilgore’s website once more. He recently posted another issue of his in-character reports by Inquisitor Varman Kumar on the Fighting Tigers of Veda. I really love what Kenton is doing with the fluff in this one, debunking persistent myths about the elusive female Fighting Tigers while still leaving some room for interpretation for those of us who are willing to read between the lines. Of course, I’m also super stoked and honoured that, once again, he used pictures of my miniatures to accompany his outstanding writing. I’m very excited for future updates on this series and hope he keeps it going.





Alright, so let’s get to the fun stuff! Today, I want to share with you my second completed squad of Devastator Marines:



In this pic you see the first half of the squad, containing some regular Marines, a Heavy Bolter gunner as well as the squad's Sergeant. Let’s take a closer look at him:



The Sergeant is a classic mini from 40k’s 2nd edition, albeit with some modifications. I gave him a Storm Bolter as a ranged weapon, which is another old part that I stole from one of the classic metal Captains in my collection. It’s a pretty hefty bit, so I had to add a washer underneath this Sergeant’s base to keep the heavy gun from constantly tipping over the mini. But hey, at least it looks cool.



The other noticeable alteration I made to the miniature was to add a sort of target designator, as I had on the Sergeant of my first Devastator squad. However, I did unfortunately not have the original backpack with this special attachment, so I had to improvise. My target designator was made from half a SM vehicle Storm Bolter if I remember correctly. I sculpted on a cowling and gave it an appropriate paintjob to sell the illusion. Next, let’s take a closer look at the Heavy Bolter gunner:



This guy is special in that he doesn’t use the regular Heavy Bolter variants you would usually find in SM or CSM kits. Instead, I improvised again to make use of some leftover bits I had lying around.



The keen-eyed among you may recognise this guy’s Bolter as part of an Astra Militarum heavy weapons kit. I had a pair of previously chopped-up Missile Launcher arms available, so I used those to attach the gun to the Model.



To make the model read more clearly as a Devastator, I added one of the large Backpacks from the old plastic Devastator kits, specifically the Plasma cannon pack I believe. Using green stuff, I also created a connection from the backpack to the gun to represent a sort of ammo feed for the Bolter.



Alright, moving on to the other half of the squad now:



This five-man combat squad goes very heavy on the Missile Launchers as you can see. Again, I use these weapons for a multitude of reasons: 1) They’re very iconic and a classic weapon for SM that has been around since the earliest days of the tabletop game 2) They’re cheap points-wise 3) They’re very versatile with their different ammo types 4) They’re pretty ubiquitous in the lore and represented as a simple, cheap and widely available heavy weapon in the lore, something that fits well with the situation of the Fighting Tigers in their knack of the woods.

Now, let’s take a look at the full squad set up together in one (recklessly crowded) blob:



Would surely make a juicy target for one of those large pie plate templates we used to have in the game, right? Oh well…

Anyways, that's all I have to show you for today! I hope you enjoyed this update and that you stick around for the next one, which I'm already working on and which is hopefully soon to follow. Thank you all very much for checking this out, and stay tuned for more! Alright, guess I'll leave you with an action shot as I eagerly await your feedback! Until next time















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Mighty Chosen Warrior of Chaos






Its such a good scheme and so well executed here. You could make another army similar with white and black stripes and call it the Zebra Chapter


 
   
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought






Looking good Feisty! That heavy Bolter conversion worked really well. I love maximising the use of a kit or two. No part left behind!

Goberts Gubbins - P&M Blog, started with Oldhammer, often Blackstone Fortress and Void Panther Marines, with side projects along the way 
   
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Austria, Segmentum Solar

Hello again!

As promised, today I will continue showing off the remaining Marines you haven’t seen yet. There’s still a few left, but with today’s post, we will have officially caught up with my backlog. This means I don’t really have a lot of completed minis or pictures to post right away, so it might take me a while to bring you the next update. Could I possibly go any slower? Who knows, I guess we’ll have to find that out together

What follows is a random assortment of various Veterans and Specialists with unique loadouts that I converted, mostly just for fun. These might have come in handy for the older versions of Kill Team where you could designate certain models to be specialists, but now, I don’t really know what to do with them, except use them as non-WYSIWYG veterans. However, that’s the beauty of working on this collection: Simply letting my imagination run wild, coming up with new and interesting models and having fun converting and kitbashing to scratch that creative itch. Let’s get started:



First, we have this Veteran Marine with an Astartes Combat Shotgun. I always wanted to try out what a shotty would look like on a full-fledged Marine, and I gotta say I really like it. I know, I know, there’s an even cooler shotgun in the Deathwatch kit now, but I don’t have that one, so eh…



I think the shotgun works quite well with the scale of the mini. I also added a couple of shotgun shells to the Marine’s pauldron for a quick ammo top-up in the heat of combat.



Now some of you may be screaming “Hold on, if these are veterans, why don’t they have the tiger-striped greaves denoting their rank?”, and you would be absolutely justified. That is an issue I unfortunately only noticed after I had taken the pictures and dropped the minis off at my house, but it is true that they should, indeed, also have the decorated greaves. I will have to go in and fix that oversight on my part at a later date. For the time being, please ignore this blatant lore breach on this Marine and the others below



This Marine has legs from a 2nd ed pushfit mini btw. I was running out of legs, so I grabbed one that I could chop up and reuse for this Veteran.



These legs are cool because they come with a holstered sidearm on the right hip, which acts a nice addition to round out this veteran’s loadout. Alright, moving on to the second vet:



This is a gunfighter/pistolier in a dynamic running pose. I gave him two bolt pistols from the old SM scout kit.



Both the torso and the legs were taken from the old Khorne Berzerkers kit. I used the chestpiece with an ammo belt because I thought it would add some character to the miniature.



I shaved off the Khorne symbol on the belt buckle and added some pouches to complete the look. I really like how this guy’s run-and-gun pose turned out.



The arms on this guy came from an old SM vehicle kit. They’re just the arms that go on the pintle mounted Storm Bolter which I split in half and adapted to the pistols.



Again, this guy needs to get his greaves repainted at some point, which I’ll hopefully get around to soon. Okay, let’s move on to the third and final vet:



This Marine should read clearly as a Grenadier, and as such, he is an expert in all things that go BOOM. He is equipped with an assortment of different grenades all across his armour, and he also carries a grenade launcher for good measure.



This loadout is probably not legal in any ruleset, but again, I just wanted to experiment with different armaments, come up with some interesting and creative minis and have some fun building and converting in the process.



The Marine is also holding a grenade in his right hand and is getting ready to throw it at the enemy. In this regard, this vet was a golden opportunity to include some rarely used bits like that. Btw, the grenade belt on this mini originally came from the SM scout bikers kit, and the launcher is of course one of the classic Astra Militarum special weapons, as you surely guessed already.



To round out the model, I decked it out with pouches and explosives. I wanted to create the impression of a super-heavy trooper who lugs around tons of ammo and explosives. This is the go-to guy in your squad if you need something gone permanently. He also carries a melta bomb on his belt for heavy-duty demolition.



And that’s all the new models I’ve got so far. I’ve also finished 14 assault Marines and a White Tiger veteran, but I still haven’t taken any pictures of them yet. That will be something for a future post, so stay tuned for that

Now on to another project regarding the storage and display of my miniature collection. There’s a TV stand in my old room where I used to have a large TV set, but I took that to my new apartment. The space this freed up on the stand was soon occupied by my growing collection of Fighting Tigers, and this became their designated display stand for a long time. After completing the miniatures above, I added them to this growing collection. Here’s a full army shot of all the minis from this thread set up together (except the Primaris stuff, that was added after this picture had been taken):



It was around this time that I noticed my army of Fighting Tigers was starting to outgrow their allotted space on the cabinet. With so many models still in the pipeline, waiting to be added to my collection, I realized I had to come up with a solution to expand the display area.

Of course, I could always remove some or most of the terrain, and that would give me some more room to work with. However, the real issue was the large gap between the cabinet and the wall that I couldn’t close because the radiator was in the way. While the TV had been set up there, the gap hadn’t mattered, but with my minis now taking that spot, this ~5 inch hole was both a waste of space as well as a potential trap for models to fall into. Something had to be done.

The solution I eventually came up with was to create a display board that would both expand the available space as well as give the models a more appropriately coloured surface to stand on. After some quick measurements and planning, I went to my local home improvement store and bought the necessary materials.

I started out with a sheet of plywood and some boards. The way I built the display board was essentially the same as building a 40k gaming table. There’s a ton of articles out there describing just that, and they all pretty much follow the same, simple plan: Take one or more sheets of plywood, cut them to the appropriate size and then reinforce them with a wooden frame on the underside to keep the board from warping. I stuck to this simple recipe, but added a little cut-out at one of the corners of my display board which would later allow it to slide past the radiator, ensuring I could close the gap and maximize my display area. I made sure to countersink the screws, and later covered them up with some filler, giving me a nice, flat surface for painting.

The paintjob on this board was pretty simple. I tried to create a sort of faux grass effect on the surface to match the flocked, goblin green bases of my Space Marines. To do this, I first basecoated the entire surface with a nice, saturated but darker green. After the first layer had dried (a process thankfully expedited by the warm sun that day), I began adding texture and variation by stippling on a lighter lime green on top. This took a while, even with a large paintbrush, and I had to be somewhat careful to keep the coverage and pattern consistent across the entire surface. When I was done, the surface had already dried completely in the hot sun, so the board was almost ready to be installed. One final thing I added was painters’ tape, which I stuck around the entirety of the wooden frame. This solved multiple issues at once: It helped me hide some of the less clean cuts at the corners, masked some of the different hues of wood and it also concealed the areas where I had sloppily painted over the edges. Here’s the final result:



Now began the arduous task of moving all my models off the TV stand. In the picture below, you can see some of them on my desk, waiting to be returned to their proper place.



The display board sits nicely on the cabinet, with just enough room on both sides to let it fit in snugly.



I pushed it back against the wall, and I was very happy with the fit. Finally, I was able to make use of that extra space behind the cabinet! Plus, the minis were sure to look even better on a lush, green surface that matches their bases. After a couple of minutes, I had set up everything on the new board, and this is the stunning result:



I’m soo much happier with the new look. It’s a lot cleaner with the matching green surface, and it really allows the vibrant colours of the Tigers to shine.



For the time being, I was able to leave all of the terrain on the display. Once I’ve finished some of the bigger units such as the Landraiders, I might have to take some of it off, but for now, it works.






Keep in mind that the Primaris Marines I finished are still missing in these photos above. That’s because I was still working on them at that time, but had already realized that I would need more room for them. Luckily, I remembered to take a more up to date picture last time I was at my house, so now I can show you the full collection thus far (feel free to klick the picture below if you want to take a closer look in high resolution):



Getting kinda cramped already it seems! Alright, that concludes all of the stuff I have to show you for today. I hope you enjoyed this update and that you stick around for the next one. As I mentioned above, we are officially caught up with my backlog of pictures and from now on, I will have to post stuff as and when it gets finished. Hope you understand and bear with me, as I am a *really* slow (read: lazy) painter and my hobby ADHD makes it hard for me to stick with any one project for too long. Anyway, thank you all very much for checking this out, and stay tuned for future updates. For now, I will leave you with some action shots and eagerly await your feedback! Until next time














   
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Walking Dead Wraithlord






Those army shots are truly inspiring.
   
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Now that is a stonking update! Great work on the board, I reckon you can fit a few more squads on there before needing a bigger board. To get the effect of terrain you might be able to print a wrap around background? Love the individual shots, loads of atmosphere!

Goberts Gubbins - P&M Blog, started with Oldhammer, often Blackstone Fortress and Void Panther Marines, with side projects along the way 
   
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Austria, Segmentum Solar

youwashock wrote:Those army shots are truly inspiring.

Thanks youwashock! It’s been a looong time coming that I post some nice army shots of everything set up together. As a hobbyist, it really is quite rewarding to be able to take a step back and appreciate all the minis you’ve finished over the years!
gobert wrote:Now that is a stonking update! Great work on the board, I reckon you can fit a few more squads on there before needing a bigger board. To get the effect of terrain you might be able to print a wrap around background? Love the individual shots, loads of atmosphere!

Thank you gobert! Actually, since I posted those pictures, I have added some units and have already had to remove one forest base to make room again! It’s crazy. This hobby does really take up quite a lot of space. Luckily, I’m the kind of guy who thinks 40k minis and terrain qualify as home décor, so I guess it’s ok
I was thinking of printing a wraparound background, too. Maybe at some point, but first I should probably focus on getting the mini collection done Also, glad you like the individual shots. I think seeing the models in some terrain really elevates the final product.





In a recent blog update on the state of the Jungle, Kenton Kilgore announced an important change to the lore of the Fighting Tigers. He stated that he will essentially be ditching the idea of “female Space Marines” in the FTOV, and treating them as non-canonical from this point on.



While the lore surrounding the female Tigers might remain ambiguous going forward, he declared that he will no longer be running these female White Tigers as Space Marines, instead opting to split his collection of miniatures into three separate factions. Two of those are regular, Firstborn Space Marines and the third, the White Tigers, will become Sisters of Battle by another name.
While I am kind of bummed about this sudden change after 25 years of them being an established part of the lore, I can understand Kenton no longer wants to deal with the hassle of all that owning an army of female Space Marines entails.
However, note that I will not change anything about the way I do things here in this thread, and that female Space marines will continue to be canon for my particular collection. I think the inclusion of female Space Marines represents an integral part of the lore of this chapter and helps create a sense of mystery and secretiveness that sets it apart from other homebrew chapters out there. It’s what makes the Tigers special and unique, and it is one of the very big, dark secrets of the chapter that set the tone for all the thrilling lore Kenton shared with us over the years. Taking that away would, in my mind, rip out the heart and soul of what the Tigers are, and fundamentally change everything we know about them. Therefore, I will not be adapting this lore change to my interpretation of this army. In this thread, you will continue to encounter female Space Marines. The reasons I have for this are not, as some of you might think, political, but rather the following: Firstly, my collection is already set up that way, and all the planning and building has been made with this established fact in mind. It would simply be too much work to alter my converted models to comply with this change in the lore. Secondly, as stated above, I think the variation of genders is what gives the Fighting Tigers their character. Removing it would make my collection a very confusing mess of differently painted units without any lore tying them together. Thirdly, erasing the existence of female Marines in the FTOV would also entirely remove the need to protect their secrets and fight for survival in the IOM, beset both from without AND within. These are my main reasons why I will be sticking with the old lore, and continue this thread as before.
I can fully understand if this change or my reaction to it make you less interested in this thread. Still, I hope that, keeping the points above in mind, my decision should be somewhat understandable and we can continue enjoying this project as we did before.





Alright, time to get to the juicy part of the update: the actual models! I’m happy to report that, since my last post, I have managed to get quite a few minis done. I’ve also bought and even painted a new vehicle which I will be showing off in a future update. Today, however, we will be looking at some previously mentioned Assault Marines and a Veteran Marine with a unique loadout.

Let’s start with the Tigers of Kali:



This is the third squad of Assault Marines in my army (with jump packs, I also have 1 squad without). Since I assembled these squads from used models off of ebay, and did them in 2 batches of about 15 minis, this is a bit of a mix and match of loadouts. There’s probably far too many plasma pistols in there for my entire army. Also, there’s two sergeants in there, as I realized the beginning of my 2nd squad was still lacking one. Let’s take a closer look at the sergeants:



First one comes equipped with a power fist and a powersword. Not really sure if that’s useful, I just thought it looked cool



I started doing these Tiger paw symbols on my sergeants whenever possible, as I think they look pretty awesome. However, they sorta require the pauldrons with the big round emblem on them (I think they were supposed to be used for Imperial fists?), so I don’t always get the chance.



The bases were weighed down with metal to keep the Tigers of Kali from tipping over constantly. Above, you can see the quick gradient on the sword which was achieved by a few quick layers of drybrushing. Moving on to the second sergeant:



I tried to do a dynamic pose with this one again. I hope I could get across my vision of her being in the middle of throwing a big punch. This mini features a Mk. III chest plate, a Mk. VI helmet and an older style of bolt pistol.



If you look closel, you might be able to tell that I nabbed the set of legs from an old Khorne Berzerker. Funny how a paintjob can completely alter the look of a miniature or a part.



Next, we have a few regular Marines armed with simple bolt pistols. I also used some of my female ranger heads in this squad once again.





Then, there’s the aforementioned overabundance of plasma pistols in this squad.



I’ll have to line up all my Assault Marines at some point and count all the weapon options to see how many I have, but I’m pretty sure I’m short on regular bolt pistols and have quite a bit too many special weapons. Still, seeing how I probably won’t ever get to run all three squads at once, I should probably be fine with what I have.

Speaking of special weapons: I also added some flamers to this batch of Marines. More than enough to go around, I assume:



I made sure to give all these Marines an extra CCW. Just a simple combat knife, but I felt they would probably want something to defend themselves with once the real fighting starts:



I also want to draw attention to this Assault Marine which I converted to have a more interesting pose. This Tiger of Kali is in the process of landing and about to ram her combat knife into the cranium of some unfortunate heretic or xeno scum:



Quite like the pose on this one. Let me know your thoughts





Next, we’re gonna take a look at a special character for the Tigers once again. In my quest to create a distinct and visually interesting army with clear inspirations from Vedic/Indian culture, I decided to
attempt another conversion of a traditional, historical indian close combat weapon - the "Patta”:



The Patta, Pata, Dandpatta or gauntlet-sword is a blade weapon from the indian subcontinent which has been in use since the medieval times. Its distinguishing feature is the unique way in which the weapon is held by the user. Instead of the regular assembly of a grip with guard and pommel, the blade of the Patta is directly attached to a gauntlet with an internal crossbar that acts as the actual handle.



The gauntlet has an elongated cuff, so the blade essentially becomes an extension of the wielder’s forearm allowing for powerful strikes. Here you can see Matt from Schola Gladiatoria wielding a Patta:



Various types of Patta also make an appearance in the game Elden Ring. Seeing as this is a pretty cool, unique and distinctly indian weapon, I decided it would be great for one of the veterans in my army. I had a rather perfect blade from a 30k bit left over, so I started converting right away. Here’s what I ended up with:



This veteran (I still have to come up with a name for her) also comes equipped with a shield which could be counted as a storm shield if necessary. Another great use for this mini might be as a Company Champion IMO, but of course, it could also just be any leader like a Lieutenant or Captain.



I added a slight glow around the powered blade, as well as a gradient along its surface, both with simple drybrushing.







Here’s a closer look at the shield, which I had to decorate with some freehand detail because I’d had to file off all the details (it used to be a chaos barbarian shield):



... and a better look at the Patta:



Pretty happy with how this mini turned out. It’s certainly different and unique, and I learned that I really like this classic historical weapon.

Finally, let’s take a look at some shots in terrain:








And that’s it for pictures today! I’ll add my To-Do List below in spoilers, in case any of you are interested in checking out what has been completed and what is still to come. You may notice that a Predator has been added to the list, so you have that to look forward to as well.

Fighting Tigers of Veda
Spoiler:
❌ Librarian w/ Glaive
❌ Landraider
❌ Landraider Crusader
❌ Predator
❌ Landspeeder Squadron
- ✅ 1
- ✅ 2
- ❌ 3
- ❌ 4
❌ Shiva the Destroyer (Dreadnought)
❌ Singh Squad female
❌ Singh Squad male
❌ Stormhawk Interceptor (Vimana)
❌ Trike Squadron
✅ Assault Scouts
✅ Assault Squad 1
✅ Assault Squad 2
✅ Assault Squad 3 (ground)
✅ Assault Squad 4
✅ Librarian Chandramatie Bahl
✅ Assault Terminator Squad
✅ Chaplain Talwar Chakram
✅ Bike Squad
✅ Chaplain Daksha Ram
✅ Cybot w/ Autocannon
✅ Cybot w/ Heavy Bolters
✅ Cybot w/ Lascannon, Missile (Surya Ashoka)
✅ Cybot w/ Multimelta
✅ Devastator Squad
✅ Devastator Squad 2
Specialists:
- ✅ Dual pistols Specialist
- ✅ Grenadier Specialist
- ✅ Shotgun Specialist
Veterans:
- ✅Knife Veteran
- ✅ Patta Veteran
- ✅ Veteran w/ Shuriken Catapult
- ✅ Plasma Gunslinger Veteran
- ✅ Stormbolter Veteran
- ✅ Deathwatch Veteran
- ❌ Tiger & Handler
- ❌ Tiger Panja
Captains:
- ✅ Kshatriya Jirbu Gosh
- ✅ Kshatriya Parashurama
- ✅ Kshatriya Sudra Patel
- ✅ Kshatriya (Magnetized)
Chapter Command:
- ✅ Maharaja Shiva Nagordarika (Primaris)
- ✅ Raja Khandar Madu (Power Armor)
- ✅ Raja Khandar Madu (Terminator Armor)
- ✅ Raja Shamshir Talatra (Power Armor)
- ✅ Raja Shamshir Talatra (Terminator Armor)
- ❌ Inquisitor Varman Kumar
✅ Rhino G-1
✅ Rhino G-2
❌ Rhino G-3
✅ Rhino M-1
✅ Sniper Scout Squad
✅ Sternguard Squad
Tac Squad 1
Tac Squad 2
Tac Squad 3
Tac Squad 4
✅ Techmarine Parvin Sreedhar
✅ Thunderfire Cannon
✅ Terminator Librarian
✅ Terminator Squad
✅ Terminator Squad 2
✅ Terminator Praetor Tribune


Anyway, that’s all I have for tonight! Thank you all soo much for checking this out and for your continued comments and support, they really keep me going! I hope you enjoyed this update and you will stay tuned for more. See you next time!








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Mate. Always always a pleasure seeing updates on your threads. I apologise for being so infrequent at commenting. I love that First Born feature so strongly, and the kitbashing and strong colour schemes really make these miniatures.

That latest Patta wielding figure is awesome, and I love the wee history lesson behind it too.

I've actually picked up a small force of First Born recently... I intend to recreate my old Brazen Guard Marines in smaller numbers from the old army I naively sold years ago.

   
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It’s a shame the OG has decided to drop the females from his Tigers, but I’m glad you’ve kept them. It’s a really unique twist and cool that the colours differentiate them.

The latest additions are great, the Patta in particular adds a cool weapon to the arsenal. The Jump Marines are super cool, and you’ve certainly got plenty of options now!

There’s some cool minis still to come in the list too. Do you have all of them, just waiting their turn in the pile of shame?

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 FeistyRips wrote:




In a recent blog update on the state of the Jungle, Kenton Kilgore announced an important change to the lore of the Fighting Tigers. He stated that he will essentially be ditching the idea of “female Space Marines” in the FTOV, and treating them as non-canonical from this point on.



While the lore surrounding the female Tigers might remain ambiguous going forward, he declared that he will no longer be running these female White Tigers as Space Marines, instead opting to split his collection of miniatures into three separate factions. Two of those are regular, Firstborn Space Marines and the third, the White Tigers, will become Sisters of Battle by another name.
While I am kind of bummed about this sudden change after 25 years of them being an established part of the lore, I can understand Kenton no longer wants to deal with the hassle of all that owning an army of female Space Marines entails.
However, note that I will not change anything about the way I do things here in this thread, and that female Space marines will continue to be canon for my particular collection. I think the inclusion of female Space Marines represents an integral part of the lore of this chapter and helps create a sense of mystery and secretiveness that sets it apart from other homebrew chapters out there. It’s what makes the Tigers special and unique, and it is one of the very big, dark secrets of the chapter that set the tone for all the thrilling lore Kenton shared with us over the years. Taking that away would, in my mind, rip out the heart and soul of what the Tigers are, and fundamentally change everything we know about them. Therefore, I will not be adapting this lore change to my interpretation of this army. In this thread, you will continue to encounter female Space Marines. The reasons I have for this are not, as some of you might think, political, but rather the following: Firstly, my collection is already set up that way, and all the planning and building has been made with this established fact in mind. It would simply be too much work to alter my converted models to comply with this change in the lore. Secondly, as stated above, I think the variation of genders is what gives the Fighting Tigers their character. Removing it would make my collection a very confusing mess of differently painted units without any lore tying them together. Thirdly, erasing the existence of female Marines in the FTOV would also entirely remove the need to protect their secrets and fight for survival in the IOM, beset both from without AND within. These are my main reasons why I will be sticking with the old lore, and continue this thread as before.
I can fully understand if this change or my reaction to it make you less interested in this thread. Still, I hope that, keeping the points above in mind, my decision should be somewhat understandable and we can continue enjoying this project as we did before.






I love your PnM blogs, and honestly I appreciate the reasoning. I like how you could have just as easily said something like 'If you don't like them than LEAVE SEXIST SCUM!!' or 'women don't belong as space marines!!' but you gave clear, concise explanation as to why you kept them in. Already I feel this blog is the only good implementation I've seen of FSM into a space marine army, done because it's cool and interesting to the force, and it adds mystery and makes the force more compelling, instead of half-hearted attempts to empower or piss off people or whatever. Tangent aside, keep up the good work! The lore is interesting, and I like how your Tigers are distinctly your own, even if the idea of the force was not yours originally. I am excited to see what comes next

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I'd be perfectly happy if you decided to keep ladies in the ranks for political reasons, TBH.

It's a cool piece of flavour, which makes the chapter stand out. But also it gives room for other people who might want to start their own army and include ladies.

At the end of the day it's a creative hobby and I think we can encourage people from accessing it any way they want. The IoM is big enough, and is already shot through with so much contradictory, secret lore that you could reasonably make a Space Marine force out of anything.

More power to ya, and more power to this project!

   
 
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