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Or a new Horus Heresy box

Yeah, and the 9th edition trailer was revealed at least a month (or so) before we seen a model for the 9th edition box set.

It's how GW seems to do things now

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Yeah, and the 9th edition trailer was revealed at least a month (or so) before we seen a model for the 9th edition box set.

It's how GW seems to do things now

Last year's Adepticon showed the trailer video for HH and two of the new models, a beakie and a praetor.

That's probably a more reliable indicator for 10e given that 9e was unveiled under lots of release schedule disruption. I think they'll show the 40k trailer plus single terminator & Tyranid minis.

 xttz wrote:

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Yeah, and the 9th edition trailer was revealed at least a month (or so) before we seen a model for the 9th edition box set.

It's how GW seems to do things now

Last year's Adepticon showed the trailer video for HH and two of the new models, a beakie and a praetor.

That's probably a more reliable indicator for 10e given that 9e was unveiled under lots of release schedule disruption. I think they'll show the 40k trailer plus single terminator & Tyranid minis.

An updated lictor or genestealer I would guess.

If the "Galaxy Inversed" speak of change and destiny and reality that bleeds, I instantly think of tzeench.
Its just another "it was the changeling all along!" cop out.

Tsagualsa wrote:
Another entry for 'Things that could totally be coincidences, but probably are not':

It's been a year since the awesome Warhammer: The Horus Heresy cinematic trailer came out!

What was your favourite part?

Watch it again here: https://bit.ly/3JpvQSH

#WarhammerCommunity

Source: https://twitter.com/warhammer/status/1637121741150380033

Sits well with Valrak's speculation about a 10th trailer at Adepticon.

I'm sure this has nothing to do with an overall nostalgia train pulling through the station for the 40th Anniversary of Warhammer (albeit Fantasy rather than 40K).

Gotta say, if I wasn't in the '10th is coming' camp, today's releases would be very persuasive.

Another random book with a dribble of rules, and a couple SC models lost in a sea of 'start collecting' boxes that were reshuffled and rebranded.

If 10th isn't coming this summer then GW is turning over a new leaf in its rules release cycle. You can make a checklist at this point:

Three years since last Edition? Check.

All codexes updated to new edition? Check.

Releasing a limited run of campaign books? Check.

Campaign books schedule ends in spring? Check.

Yeah. 10th Edition is coming. But I think they will delay the announcement to avoid stepping no the toes of Arks of Omen Book V. That books needs to be announced really soon. I wonder when they will get around to that?

We don't know how many releases they have jammed up in the pipeline for the tail end of 9th. They are just racing through these Boarding Patrol releases.

It's possible when they want 10th to come out might not be possible.

there was already such an argument for 9th, that because of external problems GW should change the timing as they cannot get everything out in time and/or cannot get the stuff after released in time

and yet GW did not care, and they won't care this time either (even if they release the last 9th Edition stuff after 10th is out)

Yea some random boxes of miniatures won't delay 10th.

AoO books will be out way before 10th and any new models likewise. Rest won't be issue even if somehow comes later. And frankly doubt that's even needed...What multi month release is to be expected anyway? AoO is down to last book. Not much new models pre-10th is even rumoured and we have still months left before 10th comes.

GW release schedule doesn't exactly even feel panicked "got to get everything out double fast!"

It's been loosely mentioned on B&C that US staff are being sent to Dallas the first week of June, which is traditionally "new edition training".

Andykp wrote:Whoa careful there, sounds like positivity, they don’t like round these parts.

You're talking about this forum, right?

His Master's Voice wrote:I think we can safely say we've all noticed. It's just that some of us like what we see.

How do I put this circumspectly?

At this point I'm probably supposed to backpedal and say things like 'oh, well, everyone's opinion is valid' and 'subjectivity means everyone's right'.

But I look at Dante's mask perched on his forehead like a yamabushi's little hat, and it's just not working out that way.

Y'know?

a reasonable application of Roman faceplates in the context of a pre-existing Primaris design.

Roman faceplates fit.

Sanguinus was head taller than primaris dante. Maybe mask is real life sized so notably bigger than dante's head

Further to that it's not like the helmet has optical suites, breathing apparatus and all the other fun stuff inside that means the inside doesn't have to 1:1 match the exterior. Likely the face which is almost certainly bigger than Dante's has been padded out behind it with all the tech gubbins and had specific space given over to make it fit on a helm. Otherwise do you assume the marines mouths go right into the point on a grey knight helm etc.

Failing that, yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion and no ones is more or less valid than others.

I am pretty sure someone will eventually make a better looking dance helmet.

I am looking forward to the news that might show up this week, and I hope that the rumoured terminators at least get a few pics to see!

Also, this is wholly unsubstantiated, but do you guys think that the indomitus heresy terminators that might be showing up will be the same kit, or as on previous editions, the terminators might be exclusive to the 10th boxed set and with a separate multipart release later?

If there's terminators in new edition starter set they will be own sculpts made for starter set.

Whether they get later separate release or just same sprues is another thing. Could be just non-option kit and later release is same sprues

tneva82 wrote:
Yea some random boxes of miniatures won't delay 10th.

AoO books will be out way before 10th and any new models likewise. Rest won't be issue even if somehow comes later. And frankly doubt that's even needed...What multi month release is to be expected anyway? AoO is down to last book. Not much new models pre-10th is even rumoured and we have still months left before 10th comes.

GW release schedule doesn't exactly even feel panicked "got to get everything out double fast!"

It's pretty much just their standard one thing a month schedule:

April - AoO IV, Farsight, Snikrott
May - AoO V, Dante, Lion[?]
June - Leviathan Starter Box, Indexes


Then spend the next 3 years churning through 30-40 Codexes and Supplements.

I’ve no issue with them releasing a new edition every three years. That seems a reasonable schedule to me. What I do have a problem with is stretching the codices out over that three year period.

Get them all out within 12 months. Just get it done and allow people to enjoy the edition on a level playing field for the two years left of the cycle.

Year two and three they can use for a narrative campaign and things like boarding actions.

I’d have bought all that space hulk scenery and rules if I had any faith that they’d still be useable by the time I’d painted them. But we all know the rules support will tail off. They might be part of 10th. But I bet they won’t be part of 11th.

 General Kroll wrote:
I’ve no issue with them releasing a new edition every three years. That seems a reasonable schedule to me. What I do have a problem with is stretching the codices out over that three year period.

Get them all out within 12 months. Just get it done and allow people to enjoy the edition on a level playing field for the two years left of the cycle.

Year two and three they can use for a narrative campaign and things like boarding actions.

I’d have bought all that space hulk scenery and rules if I had any faith that they’d still be useable by the time I’d painted them. But we all know the rules support will tail off. They might be part of 10th. But I bet they won’t be part of 11th.

It remains to be seen how the rumoured large re-write of things like the unit profile pans out - if it is really as far-reaching as the large rumour makes out, you'd have to redo everything, and in that case waiting 3 years for a codex that is up to date for the new system is a really gakky situation to be in. Unless of course the 'Indexes' are basically complete at the get-go and remain the standard for the majority of armies until late in 10th edition.

 General Kroll wrote:
I’ve no issue with them releasing a new edition every three years. That seems a reasonable schedule to me. What I do have a problem with is stretching the codices out over that three year period.

Get them all out within 12 months. Just get it done and allow people to enjoy the edition on a level playing field for the two years left of the cycle.

Year two and three they can use for a narrative campaign and things like boarding actions.

I’d have bought all that space hulk scenery and rules if I had any faith that they’d still be useable by the time I’d painted them. But we all know the rules support will tail off. They might be part of 10th. But I bet they won’t be part of 11th.

Not enough months in a year. They would not get people start as many armies with new codex. The releases would compete with each other.

An even playing field is the last thing GW wants. You're supposed to chase the meta.

tneva82 wrote:
Yea some random boxes of miniatures won't delay 10th.

AoO books will be out way before 10th and any new models likewise. Rest won't be issue even if somehow comes later. And frankly doubt that's even needed...What multi month release is to be expected anyway? AoO is down to last book. Not much new models pre-10th is even rumoured and we have still months left before 10th comes.

GW release schedule doesn't exactly even feel panicked "got to get everything out double fast!"

AOO books 3 & 4 only two weeks apart does seem a little rushed. We should have roughly 10 preorder weekends left before the most likely release date for 10th edition (two week preorder starting mid-June).

Even before Adepticon, we have enough confirmed pending stuff to fill most of those dates:

40K = AOO book 5 plus models and boarding patrol boxes. Maybe the WE combat patrol
Kill Team box
AOS = 2 death battletomes
AOS = Major range refresh for Seraphon, likely with 2-3 release slots
HH = More tanks, plus whatever is shown this Thursday. Likely two release slots before summer.
Necromunda & WHU

I expect we'll see something like this:

Seraphon launch box April / early May

AOO book 5 & related models in stores for the final weekend in April

Death battletomes a few weeks later

Further Seraphon waves in May / early June

That gives GW all of May to put 40k focus on the marketing hype for 10E, which no doubt has 4+ weeks worth of daily articles being lined up.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
An even playing field is the last thing GW wants. You're supposed to chase the meta.

Which people do so well! Just watch 2nd hand prices and stock levels chase the meta and you'll see there's plenty of people just waiting to buy "what's good".

 alextroy wrote:
If 10th isn't coming this summer then GW is turning over a new leaf in its rules release cycle. You can make a checklist at this point:

Three years since last Edition? Check.

All codexes updated to new edition? Check.

Releasing a limited run of campaign books? Check.

Campaign books schedule ends in spring? Check.

Yeah. 10th Edition is coming. But I think they will delay the announcement to avoid stepping no the toes of Arks of Omen Book V. That books needs to be announced really soon. I wonder when they will get around to that?

I doubt very much that they care about 'stepping on the toes' of their junk filler books.
At this point 40k needs a bit more than scraping the bottom of the SC remake barrel to fill an otherwise empty release schedule for their primary system.

What they need to do is stop this nonsense approach of dragging things out and then redo it in 3 years. Put out a complete index for everything, ignore codexes and add supplements that give something to several factions in one go. None of this dragging out releases and changing direction midway through so everything before is one way and everything after is a different way.

Wayniac wrote:
What they need to do is stop this nonsense approach of dragging things out and then redo it in 3 years. Put out a complete index for everything, ignore codexes and add supplements that give something to several factions in one go. None of this dragging out releases and changing direction midway through so everything before is one way and everything after is a different way.

I imagine the metrics and data aren't there to support taking the gamble on a radically altered release cycle. If it flopped for them it'd kneecap any expansion or force a more radical change mid-cycle than they do now.

They do if they get proof it gives more profit than current one that encourages impulse starting armies(sure they could release all codex at once...but who starts 20 armies at once?) and tryhards chasing current hotness.

It's not a bug but feature. Everything is aimed at selling models.

they still can release the codex books together with new models or starter boxes
just need to write and test them all together and have a design plan going with them

there is simply no reason for a mid-edition design shift or not all books being on the same level except for "don't care at all about rules"

 kodos wrote:
they still can release the codex books together with new models or starter boxes
just need to write and test them all together and have a design plan going with them

there is simply no reason for a mid-edition design shift or not all books being on the same level except for "don't care at all about rules"

That still isn't very consumer friendly, look at crusade content. Chaos marines and guard etc spent most of the edition with no bespoke content for a main feature of the edition. Same with strats etc in 8th.