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tneva82 wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Poor GW, so close of keeping it a secret and yet so far.

I think the mini has some nice ideas and details and the pose is quite dynamic, yet, again, I cannot really say I like it because the main feature, the helmet, just is not working well at all. It's like a mask stuck in the front of the normal primaris helmet, its not integrated or credible, its like a carnival mask.

Funny enough with it literally being called death MASK that I'm actually just fine with. It is literally artefact called "Death Mask of Sanguinius".

And where would all the helmet breathers, sensors, and other equipment go if it was pasted right to the face like older models?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Poor GW, so close of keeping it a secret and yet so far.

I think the mini has some nice ideas and details and the pose is quite dynamic, yet, again, I cannot really say I like it because the main feature, the helmet, just is not working well at all. It's like a mask stuck in the front of the normal primaris helmet, its not integrated or credible, its like a carnival mask.

Funny enough with it literally being called death MASK that I'm actually just fine with. It is literally artefact called "Death Mask of Sanguinius".

And where would all the helmet breathers, sensors, and other equipment go if it was pasted right to the face like older models?

Helmet below it? Who says it's right in the face?

And of course who says mask can't have sensors etc in it anyway? What? Mask is 1mm deep?

(and besides where do marine leaders even need sensors when they have old tradition of running in battlefield helmetless anyway )

tneva82 wrote:
Funny enough with it literally being called death MASK that I'm actually just fine with. It is literally artefact called "Death Mask of Sanguinius".

That's what we call a "style over substance" argument.

It was a helmet before. Now it looks weird.

If it IS the death mask of Sanguinius, a primarch-sized face should fit comfortably over even the biggest marine helmet without leaving ugly spaces around the edges.

I mean I would expect an Ork to crudely slap a mask in front of his helmet, but Dante? I would prefer to see something more integrated specially since we are talking Primaris armour and Dante.

Its an easy fix just a head swap.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
If it IS the death mask of Sanguinius, a primarch-sized face should fit comfortably over even the biggest marine helmet without leaving ugly spaces around the edges.

Yeah, a giant wrap-around face. That'd look much less "ugly"...

JSG wrote:
Yeah, a giant wrap-around face.

That's not what he said, though.

The mask could stand to be bigger on the new model. The thing that sticks out is how much it... sticks out. It's poorly integrated into the helmet. As several have noted (hello) it looks too much like a badly angled, badly fitting halloween mask. It's too noticeable.

And so there's going to have to be extra work in a fix, or extra bits bought for a big showcase character model, that should have gone through rigorous design and QC, and that will already cost a lot.

The rest of the model? Fine. Great. No complaints. The head, the face, the part of the human figure that the eye zips to first, that we all relate to the most?



A wise man once said, you might not have noticed, but your brain did.

Honestly I just find making everything primaris to be incredibly lame. They could easily at this point start redoing firstborn and upscaling them. But no, continuing on the primaris train despite mixed reception. I'm fairly certain we will never see a firstborn miniature again outside of Horus heresy. Which makes the whole danger of crossing the Rubicon primaris pointless since nobody important has ever or will ever die during it. It's a cop out. They won't kill off a named character to bring on a brand new Primaris one, just take the old ones and, rather than just upscale firstborn make them bland primaris versions who are basically the same but not.

Wayniac wrote:
Honestly I just find making everything primaris to be incredibly lame. They could easily at this point start redoing firstborn and upscaling them. But no, continuing on the primaris train despite mixed reception. I'm fairly certain we will never see a firstborn miniature again outside of Horus heresy. Which makes the whole danger of crossing the Rubicon primaris pointless since nobody important has ever or will ever die during it. It's a cop out. They won't kill off a named character to bring on a brand new Primaris one, just take the old ones and, rather than just upscale firstborn make them bland primaris versions who are basically the same but not.

I'm glad after 6 years this has become apparent to you.

Added to the OP:

Edit 03/17/2023

New video with random conspiracy stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzL4jZEHEys

- Apparently stuff is hidden in the background of teaser images
- Mainly about the '1 week to go' Adepticon teaser image
- The left side is a Tyranid symbol, duh
- Valrak concludes from this that they'll show the 10th edition trailer at Adepticon

It feels to me like we're in the phase where we are probably just threading water before the upcoming official stuff

Unless we get another surprise leak, i think not much will happen before Adepticon anymore. Today's Tarot card, and then it's just waiting.

Don’t see what the big deal is, Dante helmet looks totally fine with me. It’s pretty much what I’d expect it to look like. It’s a great model but since I don’t play Blood Angels, I’ll have to pass on him just like the excellent Mephiston

Wayniac wrote:
Honestly I just find making everything primaris to be incredibly lame. They could easily at this point start redoing firstborn and upscaling them. But no, continuing on the primaris train despite mixed reception. I'm fairly certain we will never see a firstborn miniature again outside of Horus heresy. Which makes the whole danger of crossing the Rubicon primaris pointless since nobody important has ever or will ever die during it. It's a cop out. They won't kill off a named character to bring on a brand new Primaris one, just take the old ones and, rather than just upscale firstborn make them bland primaris versions who are basically the same but not.

Castellan Crowe got rescaled without becoming Primaris

 bullyboy wrote:
Don’t see what the big deal is, Dante helmet looks totally fine with me. It’s pretty much what I’d expect it to look like. It’s a great model but since I don’t play Blood Angels, I’ll have to pass on him just like the excellent Mephiston

Whoa careful there, sounds like positivity, they don’t like round these parts.

His giant tactical rock is beautiful and his lovely ballet dance is awe inspiring, fantastic work as always GW.

 Vermis wrote:
A wise man once said, you might not have noticed, but your brain did.

I think we can safely say we've all noticed. It's just that some of us like what we see.

I personally like that the new version acknowledges that it's supposed to be a helmet with a mask attached to it - a reasonable application of Roman faceplates in the context of a pre-existing Primaris design.

Its an improvement over the original, and if I was collecting Blood Angels I'd be happy with it.

I was waiting for this to come up, but since it hasn’t I thought I’d post it myself.

 Ravus Darkstar wrote:
I was waiting for this to come up, but since it hasn’t I thought I’d post it myself.

100% sure its a Skaven face and blade!!

SKAVEN IN 40K!!!

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Ravus Darkstar wrote:
I was waiting for this to come up, but since it hasn’t I thought I’d post it myself.

100% sure its a Skaven face and blade!!

At least you didn’t say Squig!

Gsc symbol.

If it was the actual Primarch scaled mask, Dante would look like this when flipping up the visor. And I would totally buy one!

Last Tarot Card for AoO 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjm8Voe-aFE

Galaxy inversed - De Galaxis Profundi Invertus - But everything will change. Reality bleeds. Destiny sickens. The Galaxy grows dark, and darker still.

Are they... are they actually going to kill off the corporeal form of the Emperor and unleashing the Star Child?

Inverse galaxy could be Imperium Nilus, which is being held together by Dante, who we just saw.

Just guessing.

 Nevelon wrote:
Inverse galaxy could be Imperium Nilus, which is being held together by Dante, who we just saw.

Just guessing.

Yeah, IMHO they want to go for an Arthurian/Dark Ages England vibe with the Galaxy, where one half of the 'Land' is de facto under the rule of the Saxons or Danelaw.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Inverse galaxy could be Imperium Nilus, which is being held together by Dante, who we just saw.

Just guessing.

Yeah, IMHO they want to go for an Arthurian/Dark Ages England vibe with the Galaxy, where one half of the 'Land' is de facto under the rule of the Saxons or Danelaw.

Alternatively, it could be the shadow in the warp of the Tyranids. Which are also looming on the rumor-scope. Different kind of darkness.

Interesting times.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Ravus Darkstar wrote:
I was waiting for this to come up, but since it hasn’t I thought I’d post it myself.

100% sure its a Skaven face and blade!!

Glorious. Cannot unsee.

I for one welcome our new star-space overlords.

 Geifer wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Ravus Darkstar wrote:
I was waiting for this to come up, but since it hasn’t I thought I’d post it myself.

100% sure its a Skaven face and blade!!

Glorious. Cannot unsee.

I for one welcome our new star-space overlords.

Oh, come on... everybody from Altdorf to Nuln knows Skaven don't exist.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Ravus Darkstar wrote:
I was waiting for this to come up, but since it hasn’t I thought I’d post it myself.

100% sure its a Skaven face and blade!!

Glorious. Cannot unsee.

I for one welcome our new star-space overlords.

Oh, come on... everybody from Altdorf to Nuln knows Skaven don't exist.

Skaven are a myth, just some misidentified mutant or beastman.

Another entry for 'Things that could totally be coincidences, but probably are not':

It's been a year since the awesome Warhammer: The Horus Heresy cinematic trailer came out!

What was your favourite part?

Watch it again here: https://bit.ly/3JpvQSH

#WarhammerCommunity

Source: https://twitter.com/warhammer/status/1637121741150380033

Sits well with Valrak's speculation about a 10th trailer at Adepticon.