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The problem is that you're swinging last and if it doesn't go off, you've done nothing. Any offensive power that requires me to die first to work is probably not as cool as it should be.

 Vindicare-Obsession wrote:
Like we have sisters of repentia who are suddenly alot more bad-ass then they were 6 months ago

Use them at all now? Or does the I-1 still kill? Maybe if you ran them with the jacobs....

Like I've always said, the key is knowing their weaknesses and trying to mitigate them. With larger units I1 just isn't a big concern - I1 really never comes into play for me until after they have killed either a couple units, or one dangerous unit and have been whittled down to 4 reps or so. At that point I largely use them for tank hunting or to join existing combats - though even small squads are great at bringing down high quality/low quantity targets like MC, hammernators, walkers and the like. At 3 s6/ap1 attacks per rep, you need to lose at least 5-6 or be up against a big horde to have a less than devastating strike back.

Their actual weakness is their weak armor and lessened FnP save. To deal with that you used to need a transport, but assault units in transports are pretty rubbish at the moment. Nowadays you have to run them behind Seraphim or a vehicle to get them up the field, or leave them behind an aegis as a nasty counterstrike unit. Mistress helps weather a few shots with 3+/FnP. Now that you can choose their target they are easier to use, but a 6++/FnP will always take some work to keep healthy. Something fast and shooty is a much bigger problem than anything in assault.

I just ran 18 of them at Nova and people were terrified of them... Either the focused fire on them or they made the mistake of letting them get to close. The work great with combined charges from PEs because the opponent has to make the choose of what they want to attack. The fearless unit that will have 30+ attacks or the 3 Walkers that could double anything out when they hit.

I had a singe 3 man squad of PEs go into Belial and 2 squads of TH/ST Terminators and even though I lost all 3 I was able to kill all of them.(The last one died as the PE exploded and the guy failed his save on his last terminator, It was EPIC to say the least)

Five years till a new 'dex? Optimistic thinking my friend.

I really do wish we had some units that wouldn't get eaten alive in CC except Repentia and a Battle Conclave.

On a side note finished my banner bearer conversion for a counts as Simulacra Imperialis.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Five years till a new 'dex? Optimistic thinking my friend.

I half-way expect GW to do a digital-only release for the SoB next year, perhaps even late this year. There is no real basis for this, but if it pans out, you heard it here first!

 pzbw7z wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Five years till a new 'dex? Optimistic thinking my friend.

I half-way expect GW to do a digital-only release for the SoB next year, perhaps even late this year. There is no real basis for this, but if it pans out, you heard it here first!

Preter needs to add you to the rumor monger's list!

Actually, that rumor has already been put out by Stickmonkey.


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White Dwarf, August 2011, Page 103 – Saint Celestine, The
Ardent Blade.
Change the first sentence to read “This is a power sword that
always wounds enemies on a 4+ (unless a lower roll would be
required).”

Q: Can allied Independent Characters benefit from Acts of Faith if they
have joined an affected Sisters of Battle unit? (p29)
A: No.
Q: If a model in a Sororitas Command Squad is equipped with a
simulacrum imperialis or blessed banner, can they also be equipped with
a special or heavy weapon? (p85)
A: No.
Q: When taking multiple Penitent Engines in a Heavy Support slot,
are these purchased as a single squadron or do they operate
independently of one another? (p91)
A: They are purchased as a squadron.

Q: Can a Shield of Faith be removed by a Vindicare Assassin’s
shieldbreaker rounds? (p94)
A: No.
Q: When firing an exorcist launcher, what point on the weapon is
considered to be the ‘barrel’ of the weapon for measuring purposes?
(p100)
A: Any of the pipes of the organ.


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Updates to FAQ

Hey guys I just posted my first article on the Anvil of War Blog would love you guys to swing by and check it out! CC is welcome and you can also tell me Im full of crap if you want! LOL Enjoy!

http://anvilofwar.blogspot.com/b/post-preview?token=8Y6hojkBAAA.QKXrk6V8kDizFkKwF7qBcg.ZuBAaX68VU3WG2gSk9aKPQ&postId=6452053733411452638&type=POST

 pretre wrote:

Q: When firing an exorcist launcher, what point on the weapon is
considered to be the ‘barrel’ of the weapon for measuring purposes?
(p100)
A: Any of the pipes of the organ.


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Updates to FAQ

So basically, we can only fire upwards now?

lol yep. It has been that way for a LONG time. We just ignored it until now.


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Good thing mine aren't glued. I'll just model for advantage and lay the pipes horizontally. lol

Since we can swivel 45 degrees up and down I guess we can at least shoot at flyers.

The FAQ additions are mostly good, Exorcist answer notwithstanding. However, one question got me thinking:

Q: If a model in a Sororitas Command Squad is equipped with a simulacrum imperialis or blessed banner, can they also be equipped with a special or heavy weapon? (p85)
A: No.

Now, this only answers for the Sororitas Command Squad, but it also strongly implies that the answer would be the same for any other squad that could also take a Simulacrum Imperialis and/or special/heavy weapons, i.e. Celestians, BSS, Doms, and Rets. So as a practical example, if I wanted a minimum Ret squad with 4 Heavy Bolters AND a Simulacrum Imperialis, I would need to take 6 models (1 Ret Superior, 4 Rets w/ Heavy Bolters, and 1 Ret w/ Bolter + Simulacrum Imperials). Whereas prior to this, there was no reason why one of the Heavy Bolter Rets/whatever couldn't ALSO have the Simulacrum Imperialis as long as it was clear which one that was.

So am I reading too much into this FAQ, or do you guys think I have a point?

Yep, that's what it says to me too.

As bad as a player this will make me I am going to choose to ignore the entry about the exorcist. Thats just a load of croc. It dosent even have skyfire so GW is simply saying, - Eff you SoB players. I will, of course, make it known to an opponent the ruling and if they are inclined to agree with the ruling then I iwll simply not play with them. I feel like making a vehicle practically useless was a bad move on GW's part.

Well I'm glad my Exorcist is a modified whirlwind... but that's just ass.

Silly question concerning this ruling:

Q: When firing an exorcist launcher, what point on the weapon is
considered to be the ‘barrel’ of the weapon for measuring purposes?
(p100)
A: Any of the pipes of the organ.

Would not that only apply for measuring purposes and not LOS? Being that is what the question asked, and that barrel is in quotes, I read that as for measuring distances, i.e. range for the Exorcists and only for measuring purposes, do we consider any of the pipes of the organ the "barrel" and NOT for LOS purposes do we do so. Thoughts?

While you may have some ground to stand on, officially I belive that measuring includes measuring LOS. We should avoid debating it too heavily here though. Dont want this to turn into a YMDC thread.....

*Shudders*

I like you guys too much for that kind of nonsense.

Did you guys know that the Whirlwind missile turret thingy almost, ALMOST fits into the Immolator turret ring? Without any modifications to either, I mean.

It's a really tight fit, but it'll actually stay in there. It just won't rotate easily.

Edit: No, I'm wrong; I just didn't have a good view of the whole turret ring. It took me about half an hour of filing to get it to go all the way in.

 Spidey0804 wrote:
Well just got back from NOVA and I want to say I had a complete blast. Props to the 2 Sisters Players that were 4 and 0 going into bracketing..

Frgsinwntr was running his Pure Sisters List and there was New guy I didn't get to talk with that was Running GK Allies with both did great. I was in the 3 and 1 bracket but wasn't able to due much after that went 3 and 3 for the Open.

However I was able to get a pick up with with Frgsinwntr and his list against mine. I got pictures and will be posting a battle Rep later this week. I just want to say It was great to see a huge amount of vindication for the ladies with 2 guys in the 4-0 Bracket.


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BTW Frgsinwntr was in the Invitational also so double kudos for that. I'm already looking forward to next year!

Cheers! Sisters in the top was what I was going for! I love bringing "the underdog"

Just posted a new Battle Rep from Nova

Me and frgsinwntr were able to get a pick up in.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/475592.page#4753731

Evil Lamp 6 wrote:The FAQ additions are mostly good, Exorcist answer notwithstanding. However, one question got me thinking:

Q: If a model in a Sororitas Command Squad is equipped with a simulacrum imperialis or blessed banner, can they also be equipped with a special or heavy weapon? (p85)
A: No.

Now, this only answers for the Sororitas Command Squad, but it also strongly implies that the answer would be the same for any other squad that could also take a Simulacrum Imperialis and/or special/heavy weapons, i.e. Celestians, BSS, Doms, and Rets. So as a practical example, if I wanted a minimum Ret squad with 4 Heavy Bolters AND a Simulacrum Imperialis, I would need to take 6 models (1 Ret Superior, 4 Rets w/ Heavy Bolters, and 1 Ret w/ Bolter + Simulacrum Imperials). Whereas prior to this, there was no reason why one of the Heavy Bolter Rets/whatever couldn't ALSO have the Simulacrum Imperialis as long as it was clear which one that was.

So am I reading too much into this FAQ, or do you guys think I have a point?

pretre wrote:Yep, that's what it says to me too.

I have a bit of a dog in this fight since I've modeled some of my HB Rets to have Simulacra, but why would they restrict the question to the SCS? Is it generally considered valid to extrapolate FAQ answers as general rules or are they supposed to be read as limited rulings?

General in the codex. I would just heck with your TOs though. Seems like a weird ruling.

This seems like a good place to ask a dumb question about sisters.

I've been sitting on about 30-40 sisters for a few years and I'm tempted to start running them. I don't have the new WD 'dex, and I know the WH version is outdated. Considering how difficult it seems to be to get my hands on the WD dex how do you guys feel about running them counts as? And if counts as gets a hell no, how can I get my hands on the new material?

Without saying anything bad, I would suggest eBay or google.

Or check your local game club/shop if any. I know mine keeps a backlog of WD some years back.

Since you need 2 issues of WD, Ebay is going to be iffy unless you are patient.

Well currently:
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Warhammer-40k-Sisters-Battle-White-Dwarf-issues-379-380-/280961333151?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item416a99b79f#ht_500wt_1414

It's looking to go for more than the new price though.

While reading over it I noticed that the canoness had the ability to gain perferred enemy......
Has anyone thought about running her with heavy weapon squads so that they can benefit?

well for the exorcist launcher, it says the pipes are the barrels "For measuring purposes" that doesn't nessisarily mean that the pipes are the barrels for "Fireing arc," only for range measuring. So just to add more flame to the fire.....

I feel like the two are generally synonomous but I dont have a reference so dont mind me if you belive otherwise.

The Exorcist is a vertical-firing artillery launcher, meaning missiles go straight up, then straight down.

Also - Repressor lets 7 models fire out (6 basic guns (probably Bolters) and 1 anything.

Anyone have any idea what happened to Tiarna Fuilteach by the by? It always is strange to me that someone would leave their own thread.