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jearrington wrote:
Some cool info on the upcoming Rogue Trader Kill Team:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2018/07/kill-team-rogue-trader-reveal.html

'Elucia Starstrider' is a cute reference.

(Elucia = Luke; Star-strider = Sky-walker)

American prices:
$40 - rules
$130 - starter
$60 - orks/wolves
$80 - sector mechanicus
$35 - case
$15 - blank cards
$100 - basilicanum terrain
$75 - sanctum terrain
$50 - administratum
$35 - ruins terrain

Hope that helps

Oh, I hope that means they've actually split the ruins off into their own box entirely and everything in the other three is intact, rather than those all being X number of intact sprues plus the ruins.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Oh, I hope that means they've actually split the ruins off into their own box entirely and everything in the other three is intact, rather than those all being X number of intact sprues plus the ruins.

I'm not sure that's possible. From the sprue pictures posted earlier, it seems like the intact walls are all on their own sprues but what I think may be the floor tiles are grouped with ruined walls.

Unless there are extra floor sprues we haven't seen, of course. Or if my eyes fail me, which is quite possible, too.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Oh, I hope that means they've actually split the ruins off into their own box entirely and everything in the other three is intact, rather than those all being X number of intact sprues plus the ruins.

If you have studied the pics you should know by now that Ruins are ruins and other three are collection of shared intact wall sprues, floors, building specific sprues and Ruins. If you want to have access to all different sprues, you need to buy only Basilicanum and Sanctum. Ruins and Administratum do not contain anything that is not available in Basilicanum or Sanctum.

Looks like I was correct assuming that all ruined pieces are included in half-size sprues.

You can see some of the rules in here (in case you speak french)
https://youtu.be/nceAwPE9ABw?t=1479
Grey Knights for example seem to have only the Strike Squad as a unit (there go my terminator hopes) and Thousand Sons seem to have Rubrics and Tzaangors

 GuardStrider wrote:
You can see some of the rules in here (in case you speak french)
https://youtu.be/nceAwPE9ABw?t=1479
Grey Knights for example seem to have only the Strike Squad as a unit (there go my terminator hopes) and Thousand Sons seem to have Rubrics and Tzaangors

Looks like it confirms that what's in the Community articles is the full extent of what's available to the Kill Teams too.

Only CSM for Heretic Astartes seems odd - we'll find out in a couple of hours though.

Plague Marines and Poxwalkers for Death Guard suits me though - I already have plenty of the new plastic Plague Marines converted up with a range of weapons.

Any kind French speakers who can break down what's in the video (if there's any new info)?

 Dedwoods42 wrote:
Only CSM for Heretic Astartes seems odd - we'll find out in a couple of hours though.

Huh? Wouldn't that be odd indeed...

 Dedwoods42 wrote:

Only CSM for Heretic Astartes seems odd - we'll find out in a couple of hours though.

Cultists are on the page before. CSM also look to have a ton of options, including gunners, aspiring champions and lots of wargear.

That just leaves CWE as the faction that'll get 6 choices then? I thought it'd be CSM, because Marines and Cultists are obvious, and the four Cults would make a great counterpoint to Primaris.

Bharring wrote:
That just leaves CWE as the faction that'll get 6 choices then? I thought it'd be CSM, because Marines and Cultists are obvious, and the four Cults would make a great counterpoint to Primaris.

You'd never get Thousand Sons of Death Guard because they exist separately, but Berzerkers and Noise Marines with some Chosen/Fallen and Possessed thrown in would have been a nice list.

 Dedwoods42 wrote:

 GuardStrider wrote:
You can see some of the rules in here (in case you speak french)
https://youtu.be/nceAwPE9ABw?t=1479
Grey Knights for example seem to have only the Strike Squad as a unit (there go my terminator hopes) and Thousand Sons seem to have Rubrics and Tzaangors

Only CSM for Heretic Astartes seems odd - we'll find out in a couple of hours though.

Uh, Cultists are there, they appear in the page before CSM

Edit: Ups didn't notice someone already pointed this out

Bharring wrote:
That just leaves CWE as the faction that'll get 6 choices then? I thought it'd be CSM, because Marines and Cultists are obvious, and the four Cults would make a great counterpoint to Primaris.

Yeah, you're right, the most we've got so far is five with GSC IIRC.

Hmmmmm... I mean, I know it's a hell of a longshot, but I'd LOVE to see

Rangers, Dire Avengers, Guardians, Scorpions, Banshees, Storm Guardians

but it'll most likely be

Rangers, Dire Avengers, Guardians, Storm Guardians, Wraithguard, Wraithblades.

As dumb as that is. Hurp Durp nobody can have terminators cuz theyre 2 strong with 2+ save but T6 W3 3+ is just fine.

 xttz wrote:

 Dedwoods42 wrote:

Only CSM for Heretic Astartes seems odd - we'll find out in a couple of hours though.

Cultists are on the page before. CSM also look to have a ton of options, including gunners, aspiring champions and lots of wargear.

Nice, makes more sense. Thought I may have been overlooking something.
It looks like there's buckets of wargear options in general - that would be nice.

the_scotsman wrote:

Bharring wrote:
That just leaves CWE as the faction that'll get 6 choices then? I thought it'd be CSM, because Marines and Cultists are obvious, and the four Cults would make a great counterpoint to Primaris.

Yeah, you're right, the most we've got so far is five with GSC IIRC.

Hmmmmm... I mean, I know it's a hell of a longshot, but I'd LOVE to see

Rangers, Dire Avengers, Guardians, Scorpions, Banshees, Storm Guardians

but it'll most likely be

Rangers, Dire Avengers, Guardians, Storm Guardians, Wraithguard, Wraithblades.

As dumb as that is. Hurp Durp nobody can have terminators cuz theyre 2 strong with 2+ save but T6 W3 3+ is just fine.

Eldar was Rangers, Dire Avengers, Guardians, Storm Guardians. Didn't see any others in that video.

Maybe nobody gets 6?

 xttz wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

Bharring wrote:
That just leaves CWE as the faction that'll get 6 choices then? I thought it'd be CSM, because Marines and Cultists are obvious, and the four Cults would make a great counterpoint to Primaris.

Yeah, you're right, the most we've got so far is five with GSC IIRC.

Hmmmmm... I mean, I know it's a hell of a longshot, but I'd LOVE to see

Rangers, Dire Avengers, Guardians, Scorpions, Banshees, Storm Guardians

but it'll most likely be

Rangers, Dire Avengers, Guardians, Storm Guardians, Wraithguard, Wraithblades.

As dumb as that is. Hurp Durp nobody can have terminators cuz theyre 2 strong with 2+ save but T6 W3 3+ is just fine.

Eldar was Rangers, Dire Avengers, Guardians, Storm Guardians. Didn't see any others in that video.

Oh. so the whole "1-6 unit choices" thing was what we in the business call a "lie".

I'm sure games workshop would have never pumped up that number on the high end to try and get people hyped.

It's possible, but seems unlikely, that some units could be cross-'faction' - such as DG/TS taking Cultists or CSM taking DG/Rubrics. Seems unlikely.

It's also possible that one of the 5-option armies has a unit that could be considered 2 units. But none that I remember.

Most likely answers are:
-We're missing an option (or 4) on one of the unreleased factions
-The 6 should have been a 5 or was changed late in the process

It could also just be that 6 is the cap, and that there are future expansions etcetera that introduce a faction with 6 options or bump the existing ones up to 6.

Or it's been put in there for stuff coming down the pipe,

as has been said before this is meant to stick around for the long haul so no point in printing 5 in the main box if there are plans (or might be plans) for 6

Tau got 7 drones You made a team with 7 of them and name them after the 7 Dwarfs

Chopstick wrote:
Tau got 7 drones

I wouldn't read too much into that.
Remember that the 'basic' Drone does the following:
Gun Drone
Shield Drone
Markerlight Drone

Then you have the Pathfinder Drones:
Pulse Accelerator Drone
Recon Drone
Grav-Inhibitor Drone

I'm guessing the 7th is the Sniper Drone, which is its own unit normally.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Tau got 7 drones

I wouldn't read too much into that.
Remember that the 'basic' Drone does the following:
Gun Drone
Shield Drone
Markerlight Drone

Then you have the Pathfinder Drones:
Pulse Accelerator Drone
Recon Drone
Grav-Inhibitor Drone

I'm guessing the 7th is the Sniper Drone, which is its own unit normally.

Guardian Drone is the most likely. They all come under a single unit option though: 'Drones'.

Kanluwen wrote:It's not a mat.

So it's folded hardboard? I'm guessing more like a modern board game, less like the old Battletech box? Still a bleh from me.

AndrewGPaul wrote:The mat is the size it is (22" x 30" because that's about twice the size of the box (11.5" x 17").

And yes, it really doesn't matter. Use a 2' x'2' mat, or whatever you have that's close enough.

Oh?? I honestly thought that was what they were setting as the board and was trying to accommodate - remembering that, as we've been told repeatedly, this is the team that designed Shadespire, a game with fairly strict dimensions. No worries remotely if the table is unbound / undefined, I assumed the board was the board.

- Salvage

The 7th drone is the DS8 Tactical Support Turret, which is a drone.

Chopstick wrote:
The 7th drone is the DS8 Tactical Support Turret, which is a drone.

It isn't a drone - it's a support turret.
What makes you think it'd be the DS8 over a Guardian Drone?

Because nothing says "Grumpy" like a machine gun stuck in the mud while all his brothers get to fly around and have fun.

 Dedwoods42 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Tau got 7 drones

I wouldn't read too much into that.
Remember that the 'basic' Drone does the following:
Gun Drone
Shield Drone
Markerlight Drone

Then you have the Pathfinder Drones:
Pulse Accelerator Drone
Recon Drone
Grav-Inhibitor Drone

I'm guessing the 7th is the Sniper Drone, which is its own unit normally.

Guardian Drone is the most likely. They all come under a single unit option though: 'Drones'.

Gah, I always forget about the Guardian Drone! I really wish they'd just rolled that and the Shield Drone together.

 Dedwoods42 wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
The 7th drone is the DS8 Tactical Support Turret, which is a drone.

It isn't a drone - it's a support turret.
What makes you think it'd be the DS8 over a Guardian Drone?

It's a turret, operated by a drone. You can see it's a drone hiding inside a garbage bin



Back in the day they actually call it Drone Sentry Turret, Drone Sentry, DS haha

CHOAS: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/07/17/17th-july-kill-team-focus-heretic-astartesgw-homepage-post-1/

EDIT: Feel like I didn't learn much Mostly just confirmed that we've got what I'm already working on and not much else. Interested to see what other tactics the book has on hand, was sorta expecting a cultist meatshield one (ala grots) or some actual terror tactics, as referenced repeatedly re: Night Lords.

- Salvage