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Pacific wrote:Does anyone know if there are any plans to restart the BL forums?

No there aren't.

I will point you here however : http://z6.invisionfree.com/bljunkies

Just finished and thoroughly enjoyed Sword of Vengeance.


I think I'm Empire'd out though. Seems like Empire novels are to Black Library, what Space Marines are to GW. They've been good for the most part, but damn, some variety perhaps? Don't get me wrong, I know that the Empire is pretty much ground zero for the war vs. chaos, and its arguably the dominant power in the world, but would it hurt to explore other settings? Explore new lands and flesh out the detailed map that GW made of the warhammer world a few years ago?

To highlight the dispariy, from what I understand, we fans of the Brets don't even get a proper novelized end to the Errant/Realm/Questing/Grail Knight Series, just a short story thats in the omnibus? Bad form when Empire fans get a novel for what seems like every army book entry.

Anyone else see or bothered by this?

I sort of see what you mean, and you're right that the Empire is the default or defacto setting for most of their novels.

..that said... there is, for example, a series about the High Elves and their civil war, the Dark Elves have the Malus books, there's a couple of Dwarf novels -- the sourcebook is great for dwarf fans if you get the chance btw -- and Mr. Werner's skaven books and Wulfrik novels are all well worth picking up.

..so... I see what you mean -- and the Empire Army books do perhaps skew the balance here perhaps -- but I think there is variety out there.

I am somewhat annoyed over the Bret. story though -- was enjoying that series.

NELS1031 wrote:I think I'm Empire'd out though. Seems like Empire novels are to Black Library, what Space Marines are to GW. They've been good for the most part, but damn, some variety perhaps? Don't get me wrong, I know that the Empire is pretty much ground zero for the war vs. chaos, and its arguably the dominant power in the world, but would it hurt to explore other settings? Explore new lands and flesh out the detailed map that GW made of the warhammer world a few years ago?

There'll always be books coming up set in the Empire, since (as you say yourself) it's the core setting for fantasy - like the Imperium in 40K. But, saying that, it's hard for me to agree that BL are too Empire-centric. I've just taken a quick look at the remaining releases for 2011, and this is what's coming up:

Broken Honour (Empire)
Knights of Bretonnia (Bretonnia)
Caledor (Ulthuan)
Bloodforged (Kislev)
Dwarfs (Dwarf realms)
Sigvald (Chaos Wastes)
Nagash Immortal (Nehekhara)
Defenders of Ulthuan (Ulthuan)
Sons of Ellyrion (Ulthuan)
Thanquol's Doom (Not sure, but there's dwarfs on the cover)
The Red Duke (Bretonnia)
Blood of Aenarion (Ulthuan, presumably)

So, out of 12 books released or re-released in 2011, only one is definitely Empire-focussed, and there's a fair bit of variety in the rest.

Nice to "see" you Mr. Wraight.

Lots of people here very happy with the "Swords of.." books

Looking forward to saying hello next weekend and getting my copies signed.

Busy day for you guys alright eh ?

reds8n wrote:Looking forward to saying hello next weekend and getting my copies signed.

Excellent

reds8n wrote:Busy day for you guys alright eh ?

Yeah, hope so. It was a blast last year, so very much looking forward to doing it again.

... still got time for a pint or two though I hope... ?

And the new WD lists a new print-on-demand title, the Necromunda Omnibus. It contains the novels Survival Instinct (Andy Chambers) Salvation (CS Goto) and Junktion (Matt Farrer).

Is there an option to not have the Goto part in the book

So, I got my three books from Black Library("Purging of Kadillus", "A Thousand Sons" and "Prospero Burns") yesterday.

Why is this newsworthy?
Because it also included a 'Black Library Previews Catalogue' with extracts from "Battle of the Fang"(kudos on that Mr. Wraight! Quite good from the 3 pages I got to read ), extracts from "Imperial Glory" due out in August(another good Guard novel? Sign me right the feth up!), extracts from Gav Thorpe's "Caledor" and his short story 'Face of Treachery' from "Age of Darkness", but most importantly for you Inquisition junkies...

An extract from Rob Sanders' Inquisitor Czevak novel "Atlas Infernal", which takes place after the 13th Black Crusade from what I could see in the 3 pages.

There's also the return of Jonathan Green's "Iron Hands" novel, which looks like it will be released in ebook format or just reissued period.
All in all...2011 is looking pretty damned good for Black Library.

The Age of Legend is coming


Fans of the Time of Legends trilogies The Legend of Sigmar, The Rise of Nagash and The Sundering will no doubt be looking forward to the forthcoming anthology Age of Legend, featuring tales of mighty heroes and epic deeds from throughout the long history of the Warhammer World. Well, Clint Langley is too, and he’s given us an amazing piece of artwork for the cover.



They say that the devil is in the details, but we’re pretty certain that this devilishly detailed portrait is of a vampire!



Age of Legend will be released in January 2012, but there’s plenty more to come from the Time of Legends series before that, with Caledor in May followed by Nagash Immortal in August.

..looks a friendly enough chap eh ?!

Hooray! Vlad Von Carstein!

.... or The Everqueen has really let herself go eh ?

Well, I guess we know what really happened to Valten's corpse now...

Kanluwen wrote:Because it also included a 'Black Library Previews Catalogue' with extracts from "Battle of the Fang"(kudos on that Mr. Wraight! Quite good from the 3 pages I got to read )

Interesting - I haven't seen that yet. Out of interest, what's the extract they used?

ChrisWraight wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Because it also included a 'Black Library Previews Catalogue' with extracts from "Battle of the Fang"(kudos on that Mr. Wraight! Quite good from the 3 pages I got to read )

Interesting - I haven't seen that yet. Out of interest, what's the extract they used?

Bear in mind that...


It definitely piqued my interest for the book though

Gotcha - thanks.

Just for info,

I have lost faith in Warhammer 40k novels to be honest with you all.

I am currently reading Gilead's blood because it doesn't deal with the norm, which is why I am angry with the Warhammer 40k book line.

There are dozens of Warhammer 40k books. Most of which are focused on...space marines...or Imperial guard commisar's.

I loved Fire warrior, and I loved the Eldar Prophecy...they need more of that.

Was Eldar Prophecy the one where they totally break the Eldar fluff?

ph34r wrote:Was Eldar Prophecy the one where they totally break the Eldar fluff?

Not "they".

Him who shall not be named!

We don't likes him.

Avrik_Shasla wrote:
There are dozens of Warhammer 40k books. Most of which are focused on...space marines...or Imperial guard commissars.

I loved Fire warrior, and I loved the Eldar Prophecy...they need more of that.

Well there's your reason for "losing faith in Warhammer 40k novels".

You only like the crummy ones!

In all honesty: I'm not sure what books you've read outside of Fire Warrior and Eldar Prophecy.

If any of your "Space Marines novels" you've read are by C.S. Goto--that's why they're terrible.
If you've read the Ciaphas Caine novels--they're also meant to be more 'mockumentary' then 'gritty war' like the Gaunt's Ghosts novels.

My recommendation? Read "Cadian Blood" as a 'good' Guard novel and 'The Purging of Kadillus' as a 'good' Marine novel and see how it goes from there.

If you can't enjoy those books, you've just got incredibly odd taste in literature

@Mr Wraight: I kinda figured it was likely an 'introductory' sequence, but it's very good to have my suspicions confirmed

Any chance I can get an advance copy? For...'review purposes' of course!

...totally not because that opening part made me squeal all fanboy-ishly and made me really want June to hurry up and get here of course!

I thought '15-hours' was a pretty damned good read if you like Guard books, it's also the most grim book you will probably ever read!

Fifteen Hours was a good read and something of a wake up call that not all Guard regiments are that lucky. Throw in two great short stories that tie into it and you've got a fun little series. Cadian Blood is also good, if very over the top, but in a good way. The rest, meh. They either suffer from predictable story settings or other unfavourable factors imho.

Just listened to Garro: Oath of Moment while driving my stuff across country. All I have to say is:

Garro is a bad ass! Loved it. Which is weird since I couldn't get thru the first BA book by James Swallow....

On a side note. I'm loving the Horus Rising audio book. Helped keep me awake. I'm gonna be picking up the T-Sons ones for driving and traveling this year Gets me in the mood for gaming!

Hulksmash wrote:Just listened to Garro: Oath of Moment while driving my stuff across country. All I have to say is:

Garro is a bad ass! Loved it. Which is weird since I couldn't get thru the first BA book by James Swallow....

On a side note. I'm loving the Horus Rising audio book. Helped keep me awake. I'm gonna be picking up the T-Sons ones for driving and traveling this year Gets me in the mood for gaming!

Oath of Moment was the first BL audio novel I've listened to and I was blown away, I expected it to be some dry voice just reading the book. Was very excited to hear actual sound effects. Very well done book

Avrik_Shasla wrote:I have lost faith in Warhammer 40k novels to be honest with you all.

I am currently reading Gilead's blood because it doesn't deal with the norm, which is why I am angry with the Warhammer 40k book line.

There are dozens of Warhammer 40k books. Most of which are focused on...space marines...or Imperial guard commisar's.

I loved Fire warrior, and I loved the Eldar Prophecy...they need more of that.

Have you read "Path of the Warrior" yet? Not only is it decent writing (depth of character and setting), the speculative-alien bits are kind of like 70's pulp scifi. As a dedicated xeno-hugger who's also peeved at the preponderance of Emo Marine books, I found "Path" a real breath of fresh air. You may too.

Also, the Shira Calpurnia series are great, dealing with semi-civilain life in the Imperium and lots of cool investigation plots.

Those are good places to start rehabbing your interest in BL.

New info by Latro_ over at Warseer:

Went to the black library live event today and we sat in on the new stuff seminar.

Few tidbits

There is a space marine novel coming this year on... the legion of the damned.
Dark Eldar novel called Path of the Rebel coming soon
Dan Abnett to write new HH book about Calth
Also mention of a new book about the Primarchs.

Also strong hint from Dan in the HH seminar (read if read galaxy in flames)

Spoiler:

that Loken is indeed alive
and he wants to write him into a post HH novel book where right after the HH he's leading the charge in the purging of the traitors forcing them back to the eot. Ofc he didnt word it like that but thats how it came across.

Not sure how much of this is old news so please close if redundant.

Not really a spoiler any more, especially now that he's on the cover of that new Garro audio book.

Kanluwen wrote:My recommendation? Read "Cadian Blood" as a 'good' Guard novel and 'The Purging of Kadillus' as a 'good' Marine novel and see how it goes from there.

Did you really like that one? I stopped reading after page 37 or so because all it was until that point was non-stop "ROAARRRRZ WE DA MAREENNNZ running from room to room killing Orks, GLORY TO DA EMPRAHHH!!! and all the other cliche yells, KAZOOMM, POWW, ZAPP!!"....

(trust me I hate it when people type like that on the forum, so imagine how I felt when the book gave me that feeling, lol)

Then they had this nerdfight amongst eachother out of nowhere, and I was fed up with Gav Thorpe's childish writing. Maybe the book got 700% better after I stopped reading, which would be nice to hear, if so, but for now this book goes back at the end of the line with The Battle for the Abyss & The Hunt for Voldorius

Yeah, it was definitely a good one in my view.

But I have a soft spot for the Dark Angels, so maybe that's why. But up to page 37 was a bit of a struggle.

Naaman makes things better.


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Also, where's the Red one, I'm waiting for his BL Live report. You set him free from Dakka for a weekend and he's probably off getting drunk and offering himself as a manservant to one of the many authors there.

Waiting for the BL live report too

Just to fill the gap a bit:
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Antigonos/Warseer:
Primarch books are going to be out as limited edition novellas. Nick Kyme will write one about Vulkan when his legion finds him, Aaron Bowden about Lorgar and what he saw in the Eye of Terror and Gav Thorpe something about Corax (still really early to tell what). Something I forgot to mention: Vulkan's novel will be available in the next Gamesday as pre-release and next November from BL's site.