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Rymafyr wrote:

SaintHazard wrote:The first model looks absolutely horrid.

I'll be using #2, with maybe some leftover Raider bits to Delfdar it up, for my Voidraven Bomber.

The second option is definately the better way to go. Another possibility is the plain Eldar Phoenix. There's less Eldar ornaments on this model and it's basically the same thing.

Yeah but £65 is pricey especially if you want 3 in your army.

Oh, very nice! Yeah, that one will be much easier to Delfdarify, I won't have to get rid of the runes and whatnot.

I didn't see that one on ForgeWorld's website, am I missing something?

SaintHazard wrote:Oh, very nice! Yeah, that one will be much easier to Delfdarify, I won't have to get rid of the runes and whatnot.

I didn't see that one on ForgeWorld's website, am I missing something?

You're missing something.

Look on the Eldar section.

I think I will just wait for wave 2 to get them.

This is pretty awesome, and might be cheaper if you have any spare raiders to kit bash with.

Nice find, that looks pretty sweet.

Anyone have a size comparison for the Phoenix? Up against a Raider, or even a Wave Serpent? The pictures on FW don't give a good indication of scale.

It's the size of a Marauder, so...

About double the length of a Rhino, wingspan being the same.

Kanluwen wrote:It's the size of a Marauder, so...

About double the length of a Rhino, wingspan being the same.

Thank you.

Yeah, that pretty much closes the deal. Will be getting one (possibly two) of those when I start seriously buying DE models.

I'd hold off. I'm going to be VERY surprised if Forge World doesn't already have them in the pipe.

Kanluwen wrote:I'd hold off. I'm going to be VERY surprised if Forge World doesn't already have them in the pipe.

I think you're right on the money.

Farmer wrote:

This is pretty awesome, and might be cheaper if you have any spare raiders to kit bash with.

I've seen that before and it's, IMO, just the worst of the worst...looks more like a kitbashed orc vehicle.

Kanluwen wrote:I'd hold off. I'm going to be VERY surprised if Forge World doesn't already have them in the pipe.

It'll be months before I'm able to start buying DE models, so I'm not super worried.

Sorry if I missed it, but does anybody know more about the new deldar fluff?

SaintHazard wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I'd hold off. I'm going to be VERY surprised if Forge World doesn't already have them in the pipe.

It'll be months before I'm able to start buying DE models, so I'm not super worried.

I kinda have the same sentiment. I saw someone play a game using pretty much just the stuff that'll be in the first wave, it didn't go to well. Dark Eldar will really need their 1.5 and wave 2 units before they stand a chance at being competetive.

Munch Munch! wrote:Sorry if I missed it, but does anybody know more about the new deldar fluff?

Strongly hinted Drazhar is actually Arhra the fallen phoenix, or him in Drazhar's body.

Not to sure about dark eldar what twist gives them a gaming advantage, yet i am biased against all elven types, as i crush them whimpering under foot of stegadon or Railgun, I HATE THEM I HATE THEM HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE them.

So now that you have declared your love for DE, what do you think you will buy first Aun'Shi?

Oshova

Oshova wrote:So now that you have declared your love for DE, what do you think you will buy first Aun'Shi?

Oshova

The book would be a start!

But that requires reading =S I'm not sure I can manage that

Also on the Bomber, I think I will definitely be buying whatever looks right from FW, depending on the rules, and the look of the new models when I actually see them first hand.

Oshova

Your signature bothers me.

How does that gentleman's hair remain so perfectly styled, even in the rain, and winds strong enough to blow the rain nearly sideways?

And it's been constantly raining for months now. Yet his hair is still perfect.

Bothersome. Bothersome bother.

SaintHazard wrote:Your signature bothers me.

How does that gentleman's hair remain so perfectly styled, even in the rain, and winds strong enough to blow the rain nearly sideways?

And it's been constantly raining for months now. Yet his hair is still perfect.

Bothersome. Bothersome bother.

That would be because Kira has spent so long piloting GUNDAM Battle Suits that his hair is full of grease and oil, and as such is now immune to the effects of both wind and rain

Also, I no longer have access to Photoshop Image Ready, so can't currently make any new animated signatures in the way I would like =p

Oshova

SaintHazard wrote:Your signature bothers me.

How does that gentleman's hair remain so perfectly styled, even in the rain, and winds strong enough to blow the rain nearly sideways?

And it's been constantly raining for months now. Yet his hair is still perfect.

Bothersome. Bothersome bother.

Y'know, the kids that like the spikey look seem to enjoy the hair gel named "Concrete."

http://www.google.com/#q=concrete+hair+gel&hl=en&prmd=ivs&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&ei=RG23TNTWEYbGlQeNko28DA&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDMQrQQwAg&fp=9f2370386c77b788

1.) On flyers: The DARK ELDAR RAVEN FIGHTER is, well, a fighter, so a good choice for the Razorwing Fighter in the Codex. The Codex art looks more like a slightly more spikey variant of the Eldar Nightwing fighter http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar/ELDAR-NIGHTWING.html , but this model could be used as well. The DE VOID DRAGON PHOENIX ( http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Dark_Eldar/VOID-DRAGON-PHOENIX.html ) and maybe also Eldar PHOENIX http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar/ELDAR-PHOENIX.html are perfect candidates for the Voidraven Bomber. All these flyers are about Valkyrie sized, but flatter.

2.) Concerning the background:
Nothing that can be fully described and most of it completely new. Better description of the fall, better description of the webway, very detailed description of Commoragh, very detailed description of Dark Eldar history including Vect's rise, very nice background material for all units (e.g. Hellions now street punks and not Wych cult, fighting in Commoragh's skies with Scourges and Reavers) and especially all special characters (David Bowie in Space or Vect's ex-wife). Judging from the weird German translation, the original texts seems to be complex and ornate (esp. when Jes visualizes how Commoragh looks). The fluff section alone makes it worth buying the Codex.

Long time lurker, but have a question. Can someone who's seen the codex give an update on how pain points work? I'm specially wondering about FC and Fearless. I had heard from some sources that if a single unit got 2 or 3 points the entire army got FC/FL, others have said they apply to only the unit that earns them. My LGS doesn't rate, I guess, and so I will not being seeing the codex till launch day.

Dillweed wrote:Long time lurker, but have a question. Can someone who's seen the codex give an update on how pain points work? I'm specially wondering about FC and Fearless. I had heard from some sources that if a single unit got 2 or 3 points the entire army got FC/FL, others have said they apply to only the unit that earns them. My LGS doesn't rate, I guess, and so I will not being seeing the codex till launch day.

It's unit by unit. 1 token, FNP; 2 tokens, Furious Charge; 3 tokens, Fearless. There might be some shenanigans with units that confer tokens and what happens when they leave/die, but that's for the FAQ in 4-12 months.

Luthon1234 wrote:

haroon wrote:I agree, its a xeno version of the heavy bolter and its much better (as it should be ).

Or its the Dark eldar version of the star cannon, not worth it and in the case of the star cannon over priced.

The Starcannon was nerfed down to be pretty crap, so that bodes rather poorly for the DE version.

I fail to see why Phil couldn't leave the Starcannon and Disintegrator alone, and simply bumped their price up to something appropriate. It's not like you've got GW monkeying with the stats of Bolters, Plasma Guns, or Lascannons willy-nilly. It's crazy and counter-productive.


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SaintHazard wrote:Your signature bothers me.

How does that gentleman's hair remain so perfectly styled, even in the rain, and winds strong enough to blow the rain nearly sideways?

And it's been constantly raining for months now. Yet his hair is still perfect.

Bothersome. Bothersome bother.

You mean, like *this*?

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Luthon1234 wrote:

haroon wrote:I agree, its a xeno version of the heavy bolter and its much better (as it should be ).

Or its the Dark eldar version of the star cannon, not worth it and in the case of the star cannon over priced.

The Starcannon was nerfed down to be pretty crap, so that bodes rather poorly for the DE version.

I fail to see why Phil couldn't leave the Starcannon and Disintegrator alone, and simply bumped their price up to something appropriate. It's not like you've got GW monkeying with the stats of Bolters, Plasma Guns, or Lascannons willy-nilly. It's crazy and counter-productive.


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SaintHazard wrote:Your signature bothers me.

How does that gentleman's hair remain so perfectly styled, even in the rain, and winds strong enough to blow the rain nearly sideways?

And it's been constantly raining for months now. Yet his hair is still perfect.

Bothersome. Bothersome bother.

You mean, like *this*?

Dear God ! She must be mine !

Ok, I've searched and searched, and it's 3 am and might be why I can't find it, but when will they hit the shelves? I know they're on advance order right now, but does that mean available Nov 5? The reason I ask, is I want to support my current, and old gaming stores by buying stuff from both, since I'll be going back to my home town the weekend of November 6th for a wedding, and could pick up the models then if they'll be there by the 5th.

greenbay924 wrote:Ok, I've searched and searched, and it's 3 am and might be why I can't find it, but when will they hit the shelves? I know they're on advance order right now, but does that mean available Nov 5? The reason I ask, is I want to support my current, and old gaming stores by buying stuff from both, since I'll be going back to my home town the weekend of November 6th for a wedding, and could pick up the models then if they'll be there by the 5th.

November 5th is the release date, though Indie Gaming stores might get theirs later.

I wouldn't rush greenbay, its not like they will be oop in a month. Let people buy in a frenzy then glean what information you can and build up a sensible list.