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i have a question for anyone who has seen the new codex.
What in the heavy section if anything can be fielded in squads or not just one item per slot?

I was sincerely hoping they would release new Harlequin rules ala Nightspinner in WD This would have been the perfect opportunity

Cpt. Rusty Hook wrote:i have a question for anyone who has seen the new codex.
What in the heavy section if anything can be fielded in squads or not just one item per slot?

From memory, all the heavy support selections are single model units. There are three vehicles that do not have a squadron option, and two monstrous creatures that are single model options.

Saldiven wrote:

Cpt. Rusty Hook wrote:i have a question for anyone who has seen the new codex.
What in the heavy section if anything can be fielded in squads or not just one item per slot?

From memory, all the heavy support selections are single model units. There are three vehicles that do not have a squadron option, and two monstrous creatures that are single model options.

Correct, all Heavy Support units in the DE Codex are 1 Model units. No Squadrons. Phil's name isn't Robin "Nine Leman Russ" Cruddace.

Or it's because Dark Eldar aren't the Imperial "Armored Fist of the Imperium of Man" Guard, perhaps?

well that just sucks. so im limited to only one of each thing i want and with all of them being viable its kinda annoying to think of 9 leman russes with me only able to field 3 talos's or voidravens.

Cpt. Rusty Hook wrote:well that just sucks. so im limited to only one of each thing i want and with all of them being viable its kinda annoying to think of 9 leman russes with me only able to field 3 talos's or voidravens.

To be fair, anyone actually fielding 9 Leman Russes outside of Apoc is a madman and should be beaten down with a real army.

Squadron is vulnerable.

3 Leman Russ in 1 unit = you have chance to destory all the 3 at one time.

3 AV10 DED vehicles in 1 unit = ?

I've never fielded a squadron, but I always feel bad when playing against someone that has them. Yeah, they can bring some serious firepower, but at a major points cost and liability. All you have to do is immobilize one and the owning player has to decide if the whole squadron sits there all game or he sacrifices the immoblie unit to allow the others to move.

Actually now if you immobilize a tank in a squadron it is automatically destroyed. But They are immune to shaken. So can always move. =D

Oshova

Rymafyr wrote:I've never fielded a squadron, but I always feel bad when playing against someone that has them. Yeah, they can bring some serious firepower, but at a major points cost and liability. All you have to do is immobilize one and the owning player has to decide if the whole squadron sits there all game or he sacrifices the immoblie unit to allow the others to move.

I didn't realize it was a choice. I'm pretty sure they just auto-asplode.

There waw a choice back in 4th.

my biggest hope was squads of talos's those thing used to save my bacon because they take so much punishment to kill and people freak and just focus on them. also the new baby talos seemed like it should be an leet choice like the BA's sanguin priest. take 3 and assign them to your squads that woulda been nasty. i cant wait to get my hands on the new codex but its gonna be a while for me cause even when they ship me stuff in Iraq the mail takes a while. SIGH!

Back in 4th . . . When anyone could take objectives, trees auto-blocked LOS and I wasn't a poor uni student . . .

Oshova

Oshova wrote:Actually now if you immobilize a tank in a squadron it is automatically destroyed. But They are immune to shaken. So can always move. =D

Oshova

Too true...bah, damn my inability to forget 'old rules'.

Gwar! wrote:

Saldiven wrote:

Cpt. Rusty Hook wrote:i have a question for anyone who has seen the new codex.
What in the heavy section if anything can be fielded in squads or not just one item per slot?

From memory, all the heavy support selections are single model units. There are three vehicles that do not have a squadron option, and two monstrous creatures that are single model options.

Correct, all Heavy Support units in the DE Codex are 1 Model units. No Squadrons. Phil's name isn't Robin "Nine Leman Russ" Cruddace.

That sucks, would have been interesting to use 9 Ravagers.

Farmer wrote:

Gwar! wrote:

Saldiven wrote:

Cpt. Rusty Hook wrote:i have a question for anyone who has seen the new codex.
What in the heavy section if anything can be fielded in squads or not just one item per slot?

From memory, all the heavy support selections are single model units. There are three vehicles that do not have a squadron option, and two monstrous creatures that are single model options.

Correct, all Heavy Support units in the DE Codex are 1 Model units. No Squadrons. Phil's name isn't Robin "Nine Leman Russ" Cruddace.

That sucks, would have been interesting to use 9 Ravagers.

Interesting, as in "horrifyingly broken"? 27 fast dark lance shots (or 81 [!!!!!]) fast Disintegrator shots for <1000 points? No, they don't need an auto-win button, thanks. IG Hydra spam is bad enough.

Gwar! wrote:Wait 2 months and pick up your army for 50% off on FeeBay.

True, it will be cheaper to wait any check out eBay. But 50%? That's seriously optimistic. Maybe 30% Or go to your favourite Online Retailer and get 25% Off. I'm doing the latter.

Popsicle wrote:

Gwar! wrote:Wait 2 months and pick up your army for 50% off on FeeBay.

True, it will be cheaper to wait any check out eBay. But 50%? That's seriously optimistic. Maybe 30% Or go to your favourite Online Retailer and get 25% Off. I'm doing the latter.

Well, I usually purchase the majority of my models from feebay and places like here, and other online trading forums.

I am hoping to send a small message to GW, that xeno races do sell well on launch, which is why I'm looking to buy some stuff for launch. Also, my old FLGS has been great and I'd like to support them. After that weekend of the 6th, I won't be back down that way till mid december for the holidays. Though if he can't get them that weekend, then there's no point...

Has anyone thought to do scourge conversions with nid gargoyle wings and warriors?

Am I the only one who doesn't like the new Urien model?

I just want to know why the hell he's floating over a couple worms.

Cryonicleech wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't like the new Urien model?

No, but I'm hoping it's just the angle.

I think he looks sloppy from the front, but some of the angled views make it look more Lovecraftian and less... well... needlessly busy.

I've hashed together a wych-y quick list - anyone care to offer opinions?

Archon (as an 'Archite' since the Succubus is naff!) - Drugs, Agoniser, Clonefield {fluff wise the clone field is her close combat save!}

Hamonculus - scissorshands + ~20pt toy

9 Incubi inc Klavex w/ demiklaves & raider w/ a 5++ or nightfield (haem goes here) {FNP incubi... yes please... also he adds more output}

9 bloodbrides inc syren w/agoniser, 3 hydrakives, raider w/field (Archon goes here) {3 hydraknives = +3d6 attacks... that's 9x2+9 on charge+1 leader +6ccws+3d6 knives =34+3d6 attacks on the charge 5 of them agoniser }

10 x wyches inc hekatrix w/ agoniser, shardnet+impaler, and razorflails (or hydraknives.. not sold on razor flails with the low str/no power weapon), raider / field {the net is defensive}

10 x wyches inc hekatrix w/ agoniser, shardnet+impaler, and razorflails (or hydraknives.. not sold on razor flails with the low str/no power weapon), raider / field

5 Scourges inc leader w/blast pistol, 2 blasters {deep strike surprise!}

Ravager w/field

Ravager w/field

Approx 1500pts from what I gather.

Thoughts?

Phototoxin wrote:I've hashed together a wych-y quick list - anyone care to offer opinions?

Archon (as an 'Archite' since the Succubus is naff!) - Drugs, Agoniser, Clonefield {fluff wise the clone field is her close combat save!}

Hamonculus - scissorshands + ~20pt toy

9 Incubi inc Klavex w/ demiklaves & raider w/ a 5++ or nightfield (haem goes here) {FNP incubi... yes please... also he adds more output}

9 bloodbrides inc syren w/agoniser, 3 hydrakives, raider w/field (Archon goes here) {3 hydraknives = +3d6 attacks... that's 9x2+9 on charge+1 leader +6ccws+3d6 knives =34+3d6 attacks on the charge 5 of them agoniser }

10 x wyches inc hekatrix w/ agoniser, shardnet+impaler, and razorflails (or hydraknives.. not sold on razor flails with the low str/no power weapon), raider / field {the net is defensive}

10 x wyches inc hekatrix w/ agoniser, shardnet+impaler, and razorflails (or hydraknives.. not sold on razor flails with the low str/no power weapon), raider / field

5 Scourges inc leader w/blast pistol, 2 blasters {deep strike surprise!}

Ravager w/field

Ravager w/field

Approx 1500pts from what I gather.

Thoughts?

For 1500 it might be solid. My big concerns would be objective missions. I think that the Wyches would be easier to scrub off the objective at range, and even Scourges and Ravagers won't have the output to take down what's killing them.

Although, I'm a man who can appreciate a theme, I'd probably skip the Bloodbrides in favor of Trueborn with anti-tank/MEQ.

I'm also not sure about Scourges. 15 a piece like that... I think I might rather invest in 6 Reavers, with 2 heatlance and two cluster caltrops. I know that is a much pricier unit, but it could be a more solid investment of points. Definitely give it a whirl as is if you have friends who will let you proxy!

Phototoxin wrote:Has anyone thought to do scourge conversions with nid gargoyle wings and warriors?

Not really when i could just wait 1 year for the new models meanwhile use my old scourges that have never seen a board before.

Phototoxin wrote:Has anyone thought to do scourge conversions with nid gargoyle wings and warriors?

I don't thin that would work. The link to the scourge artwork shows them bird wings. Although, I'm sure there is some leeway in the fluff to allow some scourge cult (or whatever they're in, I don't know much about de social structure) to develop some favour to giant leathery wings.

Farmer wrote:

Phototoxin wrote:Has anyone thought to do scourge conversions with nid gargoyle wings and warriors?

Not really when i could just wait 1 year for the new models meanwhile use my old scourges that have never seen a board before.

You could, but then you'd have new models that look like birdmen with bird helmets and bird boots, when you could have scourges with bat wings instead.

If I get new Scourge models they will be painted like Crows, Rooks, or Ravens (so as to stick with the dark mystery of the DE) if I don't I'm be happy with the more mechanical look of the current jetpack wings. =D

Win win in my eyes then

Oshova