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**Frazzled**

My two spawn will also likely find a use. They are just too choice to be ignored.

**bigchris1313**

jfrazell wrote:My two spawn will also likely find a use. They are just too choice to be ignored.

The models or their rules?

**Frazzled**

Models. Maybe as a stand in for Karanak or such. Still working that one out.

**mortal888**

I still think they make perfect beasts. Its the same size base and there's absolutely no reason for all the beasts to look the same. Just make sure they look like the associated god.

**Frazzled**

Sorry, what beasts are we talking about here?

**mortal888**

Beasts of nurgle, bloodcrushers, fiends of slaanesh. They're all close to the same stats and use the same size base.

**Frazzled**

Ah yes I could see that. Would be good for those. I have my own plans for Crushers...

**Iron_Wolves**

Stelek wrote:Blackmoor said he already has the army.

So he isn't planning on running:

Bloodcrusher of Khorne, Beast of Nurgle, Fiend of Slaanesh, Soul Grinder, Epidemius, Karanak, Skulltaker, The Masque; or any multiples of the new heralds.

Neat, so it'll be old greater demons, the regular demons, any of the old packs, and possibly converted defilers or demon princes.

My guess is 90 demonettes. Which don't do so hot against mech lists in 5th.

One of the first armies we tried, and even screened by plague bearers it was crap.

Well, if anyone is under the belief the old demons can be made into a killer army without the new releases...

I would love to see your army. In my armies (except tau) over 90% are converted models and I guess Blackmoor cannot convert any of his deamons from older models. As for me I almost have all the deamons I need to make a list with 3 GD, 2 heralds and other deamons.

**Pariah Press**

mortal888 wrote:No spawn in a demon army? Bollucks.

I think that Lord of Change has a power that can turn enemies into Spawns, doesn't he? That's what I'm going to use my Spawns for.

**airmang**

yes there is a power called Boon of Mutation that any model that can take a power can have. it is just like gift of chaos, except you have to roll to hit, but it creates a spawn all the same.

**Blackheart666**

Stelek wrote:
lemurking23 wrote:I don't think the list has tri-falcon equivalent setups, but I see a lot, perhaps an absurb amount, of room for generalship in this army. With deepstriking, the massive amount of good fast units (Fiends, Bloodcrushers, Mounted Daemonettes, mounted Herlad of Khorne/Slaanesh), a solid choice of MC's (if a bit overpriced, especially a flying DP), and one of the hardiest troop choices (T5 ++5 FNP), there is a whole lot of room for a better than I general to exploit.

Don't forget to field those good fast units you're going to be spending two or three (or four, or five) times what you normally do.

The best (being subjective) units cost the most money.

Blackmoor said he already has the army.

So he isn't planning on running:

Bloodcrusher of Khorne, Beast of Nurgle, Fiend of Slaanesh, Soul Grinder, Epidemius, Karanak, Skulltaker, The Masque; or any multiples of the new heralds.

Neat, so it'll be old greater demons, the regular demons, any of the old packs, and possibly converted defilers or demon princes.

My guess is 90 demonettes. Which don't do so hot against mech lists in 5th.

One of the first armies we tried, and even screened by plague bearers it was crap.

Well, if anyone is under the belief the old demons can be made into a killer army without the new releases...

you do realize that there are old Fiends of Slaanesh, Beasts of Nurgle and Bloodcrushers right?

I have 7 Realm of Chaos era Beasts of Nurgle and a bunch of Fiends from 4th ed fantasy era. no Bloodcrushers, but they're out there. I like the new ones anyway.

**Peoples Champ**

For those that have brought the spearhead - what size bases are the bloodcrushers on? It looks like a 60mm from the pictures.

**mortal888**

So the undivided greater demon was a rumor. Suck.

**Platuan4th**

Stelek wrote:[
Blackmoor said he already has the army.

So he isn't planning on running:

Bloodcrusher of Khorne, Beast of Nurgle, Fiend of Slaanesh

Except for the fact that these all have older models(I have 5 of the old Fiends myself), minus the 'Letters for 'Crushers which the older letters fit on the old Juggers just fine, so he could be running them.