Who's the most Badass Imperial Guard?

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**KamikazeCanuck**

Emperors Faithful wrote:
raptor8 wrote:cadia is unique for 1)necron pylons,

So you're telling me that there are no other Imperial Planets with Necron Pylons?

nope

**Emperors Faithful**

Wow. That makes incredible sense. Obviously all this talk of Tomb Worlds and Necron Ruins located on other planets are just baseless lie. Thank you Kamikaze for the wonderful revelation.

**Retribution**

Medusa V had Necron pylons

**Field Marshall Terry**

Simple... Cadians.
I don't care if your flower bed can eat you or not.
If you're a ten year old kid fighting freaking Chaos Space Marines with a flashlight, YOU'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL

**Irrepressible**

Death Korps. Siege of Hive Derondii. That is all.

**Anshal**

Praetorians as I have staded before, they will kill you. And look good while doing it

**Lord Harrab**

Anshal wrote:Praetorians as I have staded before, they will kill you. And look incredibly british doing it

Fixed that for you

**blood reaper**

Death Korps of Krieg , i just think there cool.

**cadian512**

Emperors Faithful wrote:Wow. That makes incredible sense. Obviously all this talk of Tomb Worlds and Necron Ruins located on other planets are just baseless lie. Thank you Kamikaze for the wonderful revelation.

im not sure if you noticed but there is a slight diference between pylons annd tombs...

**mattosika**

Elysian Drop Troops simply because I like reading about the history of Airborne infantry in WW2

**KamikazeCanuck**

cadian512 wrote:
Emperors Faithful wrote:Wow. That makes incredible sense. Obviously all this talk of Tomb Worlds and Necron Ruins located on other planets are just baseless lie. Thank you Kamikaze for the wonderful revelation.

im not sure if you noticed but there is a slight diference between pylons annd tombs...

Obviously he did not. Necron Pylons allow Cadia to not be consumed by The Eye of Terror. It's the only route in and out of The Eye of Terror. That's why its called 'The Cadian gate". It's the only planet that needs pylons. Can't believe I'm even explaining this. It must be GWs most repeated story besides "Ultramarines killed a whole lot of Tyranids".

**raptor8**

KamikazeCanuck wrote:
cadian512 wrote:
Emperors Faithful wrote:Wow. That makes incredible sense. Obviously all this talk of Tomb Worlds and Necron Ruins located on other planets are just baseless lie. Thank you Kamikaze for the wonderful revelation.

im not sure if you noticed but there is a slight diference between pylons annd tombs...

Obviously he did not. Necron Pylons allow Cadia to not be consumed by The Eye of Terror. It's the only route in and out of The Eye of Terror. That's why its called 'The Cadian gate". It's the only planet that needs pylons. Can't believe I'm even explaining this. It must be GWs most repeated story besides "Ultramarines killed a whole lot of Tyranids".

how many BL books do they talk about it in?

**Happygrunt**

Field Marshall Terry wrote:If you're a ten year old kid fighting freaking Chaos Space Marines with a flashlight, YOU'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL

Sigged.

And no one likes the Chem-dogs? They are like chaos, but loyalist flavored.

**raptor8**

If anyone has read Cadian blood the whiteshield Sargent sees 100 cultist get guned down and doesnt even flinch because hes killed that many himeself

**General Fuzzum**

Yeah. Cadians are definitely tops. Literally raised from birth. They spend their lives waiting for a chaos invasion. These guys are hardcore. Especially the shock troops.They are literally the best of the best.

Cadians all the way.

**raptor8**

General Fuzzum wrote:Yeah. Cadians are definitely tops. Literally raised from birth. They spend their lives waiting for a chaos invasion. These guys are hardcore. Especially the shock troops/Karskin.They are literally the best of the best.

Cadians all the way.

Fixed

**KamikazeCanuck**

Happygrunt wrote:
Field Marshall Terry wrote:If you're a ten year old kid fighting freaking Chaos Space Marines with a flashlight, YOU'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL

Sigged.

And no one likes the Chem-dogs? They are like chaos, but loyalist flavored.

You mean in appearance? Ya, I guess Forge World's Renegade Militia could be converted to them. Which btw are cool models.

**Emperors Faithful**

KamikazeCanuck wrote:[Necron Pylons allow Cadia to not be consumed by The Eye of Terror. It's the only route in and out of The Eye of Terror.

You do realise that the EoT came into being after the Fall of the Eldar Empire, right? The Fall occurred after the Necrons (were defeated and) went into Slumber. They were sleeping, for millenium. Not buliding anything or Exterminating, just sleeping. So...how could the Necron Pylons possibly have been built after the Fall?

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BTW, the only mention of Necron Pylons on Cadia that I can recall was Eisenhorn: Ordo Malleus. That and a short excerpt elsewhere, the source escapes me. Maybe Leximechanum can offer more?

**Dakkadood**

Death Korps of Krieg

They are sent to the worst places, to fight the LONG battles, they take countless losses (they have to use cloning to keep up), their comrades are faceless, taking away what little humanity they had left.

Not to mention they NUKED THEIR OWN PLANET TO KILL THE INFIDELS, now that's being a total baller.

**Kanluwen**

Death Korps of Krieg lose a lot of badass points in regards to their "countless losses" and "lack of fear" simply because they are clones.

**Brotherjulian**

I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:I can't stand the idea of catachans. First of all, the planet doesn't make any sense - is there any evolutionary reason for all this? If all the animals eat people, why are the plants dangerous? Second, if you live your whole life in a constant state of peril, fighting to survive every day, you don't end up a bronzed, muscly superman, you become a scrawny, super-sharp paranoid animal. Thirdly, how does a planet with these issues (only the best survive through puberty apparently) provide enough people to send so many regiments to war, and at the same time maintain a viable gene-pool?

Bit tongue in cheek there, I know it's a game where men cross the galaxy in 5km-long ships to fight with swords, but hey - IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!

David Drake wrote a book about mercenaries fighting on Venus. Every frigging plant there would try to eat you because the soil was poor, so everything on the planet evolved like Venus fly-traps to eat other things. I assume the same applies on Catachan

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by the way, I voted Catachans over my beloved Tallarns as all around guys you wouldn't wanna piss off. The Tallarns do the more sophisticated tactical stuff and we send in the meatshie- ,er Catachans like mini-Ogryns

**Yak9UT**

I'm going 4 my troops the Elysians but I do like Chatachan.

**KamikazeCanuck**

Emperors Faithful wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:[Necron Pylons allow Cadia to not be consumed by The Eye of Terror. It's the only route in and out of The Eye of Terror.

You do realise that the EoT came into being after the Fall of the Eldar Empire, right? The Fall occurred after the Necrons (were defeated and) went into Slumber. They were sleeping, for millenium. Not buliding anything or Exterminating, just sleeping. So...how could the Necron Pylons possibly have been built after the Fall?

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BTW, the only mention of Necron Pylons on Cadia that I can recall was Eisenhorn: Ordo Malleus. That and a short excerpt elsewhere, the source escapes me. Maybe Leximechanum can offer more?

I can't prove a negative. You must show were there are other Necron Pylons that diffuse warp energy.

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Kanluwen wrote:Death Korps of Krieg lose a lot of badass points in regards to their "countless losses" and "lack of fear" simply because they are clones.

Being clones doesn't make them less badass.

**shrike**

Retribution wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.

Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character

True. Nuff said.

Anyway- i voted steel legion- I would go death korps, but the steelies have Yarrick. He owns.

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Retribution wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Zarake wrote:Gonna have to go with the Elysian Drop Troops. There is just something about jumping behind your enemy that gets my blood pumping.

Also agreeing about the Cadians, they're just....there.

Ya, Elysians are cool. They are the most modern Army. They look like actual special forces and fight like them too. They're like the rangers from Black Hawk Down. Also: Drop Sentinals!

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Retribution wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Retribution wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.

Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character

I wouldn't say that. Cadia is an interesting Idea: an entire planet under arms at all times out of neccesity. I see them as a long suffering people. They have so many men killed in battle that there isn't enough land for all the tombstones.

Just like every other imperial planet...

like?

Like 95% of Imperial Guard regiments? All of them lose enormous amounts of men...it's the fething IG after all. All of them suffer, it's just that with the Vostroyans, or the Death Korps, or the Mordians, they do it with actual character

they do it with character- lololololololololololololololololololololol

**raptor8**

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Retribution wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Zarake wrote:Gonna have to go with the Elysian Drop Troops. There is just something about jumping behind your enemy that gets my blood pumping.

Also agreeing about the Cadians, they're just....there.

Ya, Elysians are cool. They are the most modern Army. They look like actual special forces and fight like them too. They're like the rangers from Black Hawk Down. Also: Drop Sentinals!

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Retribution wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Retribution wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Cadians are cool. I would say everyone except Mordians and Praetorians. They're the guys with the spiffy uniforms I was talking about.

Cadians are the definition of generic and boring, they have no character

I wouldn't say that. Cadia is an interesting Idea: an entire planet under arms at all times out of neccesity. I see them as a long suffering people. They have so many men killed in battle that there isn't enough land for all the tombstones.

Just like every other imperial planet...

like?

Like 3% of Imperial worlds? All of them lose enormous amounts of men...it's the fething IG after all. All of them suffer, it's just that with the Vostroyans, or the Death Korps, or the Mordians, they do it with actual character

they do it with character- lololololololololololololololololololololol

**KamikazeCanuck**

I'm quite surprised with the Catachan poll numbers. It implies that GW was right to release plastic Catachans before Cadian...which they weren't. Pretty sure Cadians sell better than Catachans. Of course that could just be a reflection on the actual models rather than the "fluff".

**asimo77**

I'd say Cadians. I don't know why but they seem the most relatble and far more "everyman-esque" than the other guys. Also the coolest individual guardsman has to be Olanius Pius, no contest.

**Raxmei**

KamikazeCanuck wrote:I'm quite surprised with the Catachan poll numbers. It implies that GW was right to release plastic Catachans before Cadian...which they weren't. Pretty sure Cadians sell better than Catachans. Of course that could just be a reflection on the actual models rather than the "fluff".

The poll is about which regiment has the most badass fluff, not which regiment you'd like to play or which models look the best. The plastic Catachans were a questionable decision because Catachans are too distinctive to represent any more than a small slice of the full diversity of the Imperial Guard, so much so that they even had their own codex for a while. It's like releasing plastic Space Wolves but not regular Space Marines. They might have really great background material but it makes more sense to have tons of people buying plastic Cadians and painting them up in their custom regimental colors. A more common objection to the plastic Catachan models is that they're ugly.

**Emperors Faithful**

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

I can't prove a negative. You must show were there are other Necron Pylons that diffuse warp energy.

Aren't necrons in general completely at odds with the working of the warp? Your line of arguement is just ignoring my point. The Necron pylons cannot have been built for the purpose of containing the EoT, as the EoT only came into existence after the Necrons entered their slumber.

**cadian512**

the pylons affect on the eot wasnt intentional (although maybe a c'tan predicted the future?) more of a side-effect