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Deathwatch colours please.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Deathwatch colours please.

do we know the DW vehicle scheme yet? i didn't see anything posted about it in my LR DW thread or in the DW/RT/DH thread. i'd assume its a black/gold/silver thing but i haven't seen the rites of battle book in person yet to see exactly how the scheme is supposed to go officially.

Flat black, with a few details picked out in silver and the -=I=- in gold.

And here I was thinking that The Kan was about to tell us we couldn't have Storm Ravens in our Deathwatch forces.

I guess that means we kan... I mean can have the Storm Raven.

Hooray!

It says in the Deathwatch book they utilize Stormravens.

Thus, Deathwatch can have Stormravens. It makes sense, fluffwise, for the Inquisition to outfit their minions with some of the newest and best toys out there.

Kanluwen wrote:Flat black, with a few details picked out in silver and the -=I=- in gold.

naked machine spirit thanks you for your kindness.

It's just me.. or i'm disappointed about this model !?!

... and is nick is; Flying brick

in red is horrible ... it's unpleasant. For the schemes proposed, I'd like to point out the middle right one, fits better than everything else.

And God... that electric blue is horrible! With red inserts! Oh my eyes!! MY EYES!

I don't know if the requests were serious or not. I an naive that way. But here we go.

it doesn't look too bad.

Thanks for those mock ups - very nice!

And it really does look better in other color schemes - too bad I'll have to wait (maybe) until 6th edition to try them out (again, maybe).

Looted ones or given as gifts for helping out the BA's

Thanks for the mock ups.


The IF one in yellow looks exactly as I expected it would. Definitely a no-go.

The =I= one in black looks good.

Why did I do Sons of Medusa? when i could of gone for The Carcharodons.

So the side doors are rhino size, correct? I was thinking of just putting the predator side sponsons there to avoid the ugly top turret. That way the guns won't just looked glued on, it'll keep with Marine looks and it'll also look more in line with it's big brother the thunderhawk which has the heavy bolter sponsons on the sides by the ramp.

Would love to see that with the assault cannons

A word of advice- don't go and glue the guns on without first attaching the turret to the hull. My FLGS glued the assault cannons on first, and now can't fix it to the hull.

Gen. Lee Losing wrote:I don't know if the requests were serious or not. I an naive that way. But here we go.

The Imperial Fist one looks like it needs some Black Stripes to make it look like a backward bumblebee

Yes, Bumble Bees shouldn't be able to fly either, but they can.

Okay, here's a question. What is the purpose of that scoop (air intake) behind the gunner's cockpit? The engines aren't connected to it in any way. It serves no purpose in space. The thrusters under the wing won't get any air from it when it's hovering to land. So... what is it doing, other than scooping up air and farting it out someplace else?

It could be cooling for the weapons systems, ventilation, additional air intake for the engines(they could be channeling through the wings)

Breotan wrote:Okay, here's a question. What is the purpose of that scoop (air intake) behind the gunner's cockpit? The engines aren't connected to it in any way. It serves no purpose in space. The thrusters under the wing won't get any air from it when it's hovering to land. So... what is it doing, other than scooping up air and farting it out someplace else?

It's there to be another bullet point on the list of things that make the Chibi-Hawk such a terrible kit.

And to create drag, 'cause that turret clearly wasn't creating enough.

Breotan wrote:Okay, here's a question. What is the purpose of that scoop (air intake) behind the gunner's cockpit? The engines aren't connected to it in any way. It serves no purpose in space. The thrusters under the wing won't get any air from it when it's hovering to land. So... what is it doing, other than scooping up air and farting it out someplace else?

It's the air intake for the nose and wing thrusters.

Duh.

Breotan wrote:Okay, here's a question. What is the purpose of that scoop (air intake) behind the gunner's cockpit? The engines aren't connected to it in any way. It serves no purpose in space. The thrusters under the wing won't get any air from it when it's hovering to land. So... what is it doing, other than scooping up air and farting it out someplace else?

It's not an air intake, it's a deflector array for the force field that actually gives that thing some sort of aerodynamics.

Ok,
so the BloodRaven can be taken by BA, DW and most likely GK armies. Is the thing allowed to be fielded in any other SM based army. I know you could of course use BA codex rules and run a successor chapter, but can normal SM armies take them? A while back a GW store employee I ran into said any SM army could take them but I have not seen any proof of that being true at all. Can anyone fill me in?

Currently, the only army that can take a Stormraven are the Blood Angels (I don't have any FW books, so can't comment about that). The Grey Knights coming in April are heavily rumored to have the Stormraven as well (plus, there is a painted GK version on the back of the Stormraven boxset which tells me this rumor is most likely true).

The latest WD did not have any indication the SR can be taken for any other marine army.

Personally, I think GW missed a huge opportunity to sell a lot of these kits. Folks may think they are ugly, but they'd still snatch them up if they were legal in any SM army.

Sarigar wrote:
The latest WD did not have any indication the SR can be taken for any other marine army.

Personally, I think GW missed a huge opportunity to sell a lot of these kits. Folks may think they are ugly, but they'd still snatch them up if they were legal in any SM army.

Not to attribute cunning with likely incompetence....but not releasing it to all marine armies initially might be bright. Players that alter their marine armies into counts as BA to play the Stormraven might buy additional kits (New Dread, Death Company, etc) to flesh out their army. I suspect after 6ish months of BA exclusive status and new BA players plunge in....they'll release it to all chapters to get secondary sales.

The blackshirt at my local GW says they (and a lot of others stores) say you can field them in any SM army if you own and bring the rules (BA codex or WD).

Take that for what you will...

I like the above idea of using predator sponsons to replace the side doors.

Am I the only one who fluffwise dislike the 'glass' pilot's canopy? I mean, if a Land Raider doesn't need windows, why does a StormRaven? Personally I'd replace the pilot's canopy with a hi-tech sensor array and armoured visor. (At the same time that I get rid of that ugly turret.) Sadly, given the price, i may not be getting one at all... :(

Frankly, the thing could look just a little more...I don't know...less like a brick...But, it's still not bad compared to the horrible things I imagined. I was picturing a Thunderhawk that had hit a cliff nose first in a cartoonish sort of way.

The issue I have with the ship is that it can't carry 2 squads of SM infantry, be they tac squads or terminators. I have drop pods, my Dreds get where they need to go just fine, so why add another Dred transport. Rules are what they are, but the ability to move 2 SM squads would really make my life easier. I suppose I'll just use the SRaven for a dred and send a Tac or Terminator squad in via drop pod. But that is still a hassle.

Overall, I am glad they brought out the thing though.