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Another price rise... couldn't resist it could you eh, couldn't pass by an opportunity to snatch candy from a small child or tie the laces of a sleeping hobo together.

GW, you're like that blonde tart at the end of Indiana Jones 3, grinning inanely and grasping for the grail of gold whilst you slip down the enormous hole in the ground, still babbling about 'having it all!'

And, ladies and gents, just how long will it be before we read that same old gak in the financial report eh? You remember, when they hiked the plastics to the price of the metals and now... well now it will be the plastics moving to match the price of the resins... I mean the resin/plastics.

from the announcement, it sounds like there may be some new models as well...

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Ah ha, so that's what they've been up to in the Studio. I had wondered why, when I walked in there, people kept hiding models under their desk. From what I've seen of the new miniatures (I accidentally picked one of them up without realising what it was) they look absolutely stunning. So stay tuned, because next Monday you'll all get to find out a whole lot more about them.
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Sad to say, with the cost going up, can only hope the USA stores I get stuff from will have the same discounts. But, I would love a resin kroq-gar so it's easier to convert. i guess i can stop trying to mold my own...

Sanjay

So.. GW said metal cost more then plastic! GW said We will do resin! and somehow they ended with even more high price then metal ???? wtf is wrong with GW ???

Some more info:

Harry wrote:You know what is funny about that?
It IS a different colour.
(...)
There isn't going to be that much difference between time metal models and resin models made in the same moulds used for metal.
The difference will be seen in the new sculpts which have been sculpted with the new process, new material in mind. There is stuff they can do with this that they couldn't do with metal or plastic.
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MrSatan wrote:Is this saying they ARE new sculpts??

Yes. quite a few.
This is only news here. GW has known about this for quite a while.

The box/blister will include a pic of the painted miniature.

forthegloryofkazadekrund on Warseer created the nice name Citadel Moneycast

Here the official poster posed by Archibald_TK over at Warsee, maybe including new miniaturesr:

With regards to the Sisters and other models not being on that list, it because GW are initially only releasing around 100 lines to kick off the new Finecast material. The good thing about this is that these lines are being repackaged in line with current displays/packaging and put into stores. So your local GW will be rammed full of lots of goodies

Also I did garner this little tidbit of information which I'm honestly not sure how I feel about. It concerns something Kan and other posters were arguing about earlier with regards to if and when GW decide to announce things to retailers and the general public. Basically, GW have decided that starting soon, nobody and that means absolutely nobody, other than the guys who deal with the products etc, will know what is in the pipework or being released until 1 WEEK before it's actual release date. There will no longer be any incoming emails or the like, apparently the first that anyone will know of anything will be on the back page of WD. Which looks like releases will be tied into the same day that WD is released bearing in mind that subscribers get it around a week early.

Now before you all post pictures of salt cellars etc, I shall tell you where I heard this info. Today GW held it's National Managers Meeting at GW HQ in Nottingham, and the source of this was actually present at the meeting. So bearing in mind it came from the head honchos at GW, and was announced to each and every member of GW management from across the country, please refrain from the salt jokes please.

penek wrote:wtf is wrong with GW ???

It's being run by people with short term vision and enough greed to extinguish a sun.


Perhaps they're the C'tan.

Resin models will be easier to model, and not as easily chipped.

A lot of gamers try as hard as possible to avoid the metal figures and will actually be relieved that they are resin even if it is slightly more expensive. As long as the quality doesn't suffer.

I couldn't care less about the price increase, I bet I'm not the only one!

This + price hike +lawsuit + all other gak = death of GW?

I'm sure it's not as simple as some think and I'm hoping it wont drive too many people out of the hobby, since, for a lot of us it's a hobby we all enjoy.

The price increases are always tough on the wallet, but the cost of living is higher today than it was 5 or 10 years ago so all companies have to try and keep up. No doubt that what GW wants is profit, and price increases could offer that.

Whether the resin is cheaper or not, it wouldn't make sense for them to "reduce" prices no-matter what. If they remained the same, that would probably have been the best decision, keeping their profits and keeping the customers happy.

They will explain that the cost to get the new equipment, or changes, or this and that does justify the price increase, plus we'd be paying for better "quality". But I can't help but feel if they just kept the prices at the rate they are now, if they would make a profit at that rate, it'd help both them and their customers.

I do want to see what they produce, and I'm kind of disappointed with the announcement on the website, although I didn't know there was going to be any at all, I'd rather them just have waited until next monday and come out with it all.

Only time will tell how this changes things for both them and us.

It could be that i am just THAT plain stupid, but switching from an "expensive" system, to a MORE expensive one to REDUCE cost, just does not add up.

Also I'm wondering what the 4th Dark Eldar model is on the right of the Succubus.

A Haemonculus??

There's a couple of interesting pics I can't make out, plus the 'Classified' spaces are basically saying there will be new moulds coming in Finecast.

Sweet as a nut

Sarius wrote:

Whether the resin is cheaper or not, it wouldn't make sense for them to "reduce" prices no-matter what.

Why?

Reduced costs with a message that 'we're doing you all a favour and you can bank on these prices going up in the future' would have seen a rampage of people buying up as much as possible. It would have paid for any equipment changes and given some much needed good will to the company.

Instead we have the same old same old, someone send Kirby and co a set of top hats and twirly moustaches.

The Decapitator wrote:Also I'm wondering what the 4th Dark Eldar model is on the right of the Succubus.

A Haemonculus??

There's a couple of interesting pics I can't make out, plus the 'Classified' spaces are basically saying there will be new moulds coming in Finecast.

Sweet as a nut

The skin and hair colour reminds me of the mandrakes,which suggests Khedaruhk (sp) the Decapitator, although the gubbins he's holding are more reminiscent of a haemonculus.

The Decapitator wrote:Also I'm wondering what the 4th Dark Eldar model is on the right of the Succubus.
A Haemonculus??

We are discussing this in the Dark Eldar thread. First I thought it is just the Harlequin Troupe Master, but now I think it is indeed a Haemunculus with 4 arms, although very similar to the Troupe Master.
Also included are the two missing Tomb Lord characters (Nectotect and Scarab Prince).

The Decapitator wrote:With regards to the Sisters and other models not being on that list, it because GW are initially only releasing around 100 lines to kick off the new Finecast material. The good thing about this is that these lines are being repackaged in line with current displays/packaging and put into stores. So your local GW will be rammed full of lots of goodies

Also I did garner this little tidbit of information which I'm honestly not sure how I feel about. It concerns something Kan and other posters were arguing about earlier with regards to if and when GW decide to announce things to retailers and the general public. Basically, GW have decided that starting soon, nobody and that means absolutely nobody, other than the guys who deal with the products etc, will know what is in the pipework or being released until 1 WEEK before it's actual release date. There will no longer be any incoming emails or the like, apparently the first that anyone will know of anything will be on the back page of WD. Which looks like releases will be tied into the same day that WD is released bearing in mind that subscribers get it around a week early.

Now before you all post pictures of salt cellars etc, I shall tell you where I heard this info. Today GW held it's National Managers Meeting at GW HQ in Nottingham, and the source of this was actually present at the meeting. So bearing in mind it came from the head honchos at GW, and was announced to each and every member of GW management from across the country, please refrain from the salt jokes please.

Interesting... And not in a good way.

This might warrant a thread or discussion of its own?

MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Reduced costs with a message that 'we're doing you all a favour and you can bank on these prices going up in the future' would have seen a rampage of people buying up as much as possible. It would have paid for any equipment changes and given some much needed good will to the company.

Well that proved me wrong, didn't think of it like that.

However if they did reduce prices, people would complain who just bought the metal models last week or whatnot, there's problems whatever they do and people will complain no matter what.

Necros wrote:raising the prices won't do much besides make us complain while we still buy our army men same as always. It's like a crack dealer raising their prices, the addicts will still buy their crack and less of other stuff (or sell more of mom's jewelry). We can say we won't buy, but all they have to do is put out something like a plastic warhound and all the haters will be like "OMG It's such a bargain at $5 less than FW's overly expensive model.. I'm gonna order 3!"

Speak for yourself. I haven't bought a GW model in probably a year. I'll be looking to buy some miniatures from someone in the near future though. This would have been the perfect time for GW to try to lure me back in, and instead they're doing their damndest to keep me turned away.

Sarius wrote:people will complain no matter what.

I completely agree. However, there's a significant difference between complaining and justified complaining...

Manchu wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:If I had to guess: the "deal with no Sisters on the list" is because they'd be trying to sell off the remainder of the metal stock before swapping it to limited resin runs.

So you think that every other model on that list is already sold out? Really?

Spoke to the guys in my local GW at the weekend, and all they restock orders have included lots of wierd blisters (often older packaging) that weren't requested (Krootoxes, Catachan snipers etc)

It would seem the old metal stock is being sent out to the stores to get it sold off so it's possible all the old stock is now on the shelves of the GW stores around the world.

Best part is:

They're keeping the Avatar model.

Wow.

Ajroo wrote:Resin models will be easier to model, and not as easily chipped.

No they're not. Not even remotely. Metal, wile tough, is harder to screw up then resin.

MIKEtheMERCILESS wrote:As much as I want to bitch... Goddamn. If this resin is anything like plastic, I'm more than happy to pay the premium!!

Simply can't wait to check them out!

Same here. I already plan on buying another Archon if he is made and put up some comparison pics.

Firstly how much more are the models?? secondly no new models just old ones turned to resin????

The sad thing is, had the prices dropped at all, I'd be more than happy to spend my money on some lovely new resin.
However raising the price even further has just put me right off. I know it's working for GW so who am I to complain?

Putting prices down I just never saw coming a don't think that has ever happened. I have not used resin so I can't say its better but if it is a improvement then its not a complete failure. Like a Mod said earlier they may be using the same processes but it will cost to switch to resin and to get the right equipment/training and what not and I think they also said it is not a small workforce to due this in at least the UK and US.

Wow, a switch to resin and a higher price.

I was ambivalent about the switch to resin, and even thought that maybe a reduced price (yep, I'm gullible and incurrably optimistic) would mean that I might buy a few more GW models. As it is, I'll probably stick to the path I've been on for the past couple years of one or two new GW models a year, some used, and only to suplement the armies I already have.

Sorry GW, you just haven't done enough to win me back.

On the other side of things, perhaps a few folks will dump out the kool-aid, jump off the GW bandwagon, and my non-GW gaming goup will grow a bit.

carmachu wrote:

Ajroo wrote:Resin models will be easier to model, and not as easily chipped.

No they're not. Not even remotely. Metal, wile tough, is harder to screw up then resin.

I have resin FW stuff, and it is just better IMO. It is lighter, and doesnt have the balancing issues the metal ones do, its so annoying when a model just wont sit on a hill properly.

Can someone link me to this price raise announcement? Because I am staring at the article and cant see anything about a price increase.

So what does this now mean for mail order only metal models not on any of those lists?

I still want to mail order Vulkan. Is he still available or not (in metal, or at all for the time being)?

If there really is such a rediculous and unreasonable price raise on the "new" stuff I'm simply not going to buy any of it. This is where I would draw the line as far as that goes.

Happygrunt wrote:Can someone link me to this price raise announcement? Because I am staring at the article and cant see anything about a price increase.

This official announcement was on Citadel Finecast only.
The other announcement was to retailers and reposted on page one and two of this thread.