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Coolyo294 wrote:

forruner_mercy wrote:

ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:I find the space marine fan boyism revolting here. And the tau are not that bad. They're a nuisense at best. And we could talk about the Imperium defeating chaos but its kinda hard to fight them in the eye. However the imperiums record is pretty well against chaos. 12-0-1 on the black crusades.

Which one was the loss

13th Black Crusade. But that wasn't really a loss for the Imperium. Everybody sorta lost in somewhat equal measures.

Not Tau. No one wanted to play with us. They all wanted to fight for Cadia. No Opposition is winning in my book

Coolyo294 wrote:

forruner_mercy wrote:

ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:I find the space marine fan boyism revolting here. And the tau are not that bad. They're a nuisense at best. And we could talk about the Imperium defeating chaos but its kinda hard to fight them in the eye. However the imperiums record is pretty well against chaos. 12-0-1 on the black crusades.

Which one was the loss

13th Black Crusade. But that wasn't really a loss for the Imperium. Everybody sorta lost in somewhat equal measures.

I think that is why I was confused. I don't really count it as a loss. I think it would be 12-1-0 instead of 12-0-1.

I guess compared to the way the imperium stopped the other 12 black crusades, the 13th is kinda a win for chaos for them, they do have a foothold on Cadia now, so who knows maybe the next edition will have them exploit that somehow, since it has been rumored that Chaos will play a kajor role in the next Ed's fluff and setting.

Sounds like bad times for all non tentcley things......

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Now I am not sure where all your Tau hate comes from, maybe you got your butt handed to you one to many times in table top games against Tau players, or you are just are one of those sad people that just enjoys hating things different from what they like, but what ever, try to base your arguments with actual or at least GW printed facts, and don't extrapolate them just to make your delusional ideas seem less delusional.

Several things:

-Tau are hated because of Tau players, implementing the awesomeness and technological superiority of Tau to everybody else in their face. I am on this forum for quite some time, all I have learned from Tau players is that Fire Warriors outnumber Imperial Guardsman ( and they stated all of them in the entire Imperium ), that Tau navy outnumber Imperium Navy in general, that Tau can enter Eye of Terror and kill Chaos Gods and lot of other nonsense I read here... and when people try to tell them it's different than that, Tau fans say that we are hating their faction and making up Tau genocide threads. Go figure...

-And no matter if Tau had some success like Taros or the thing that you mentioned in the spoilers, they are beaten back more then they are conquering. And the fact is that Tau usually attack poorly defended Imperial Worlds ( Nimbosa was defended only by 1 Guard Regiment, they had to face entire Tau invasion force ), they never attacked world that was defended by larger Imperial force then 2 - 3 Guard Regiments. And poorly equipped and undermanned if I might add.

-And what Tau fanboys will never understand is that Tau will NEVER be a major threat to anyone. No matter how advanced their tech is. Simply because their FTL drive, witch is so primitive that makes even the Orks laugh. Tau will soon be unable to expand any further simply because they can't defend that much territory with so slow means of transportation. They already need some time from one end of their empire to another. Claiming more planets only means that reinforsments will need a longer time to get there to help them, that makes them vulnerable to hit and run attacks and raids.
Tau will never had better means of transportation. Etherials banned any research considering Warp technology simply because it's to dangerous. They can trade with Necrons but their tech is also primitive when it comes to FTL speeds. And the Wabway is to dangerous to travel in, only the Eldar know how to use it without losing anyone or anything.
Just like Necrontyrs and the Old Ones, the Old Ones beat them even if Necrontyr had better tech - simply because they needed years to travel to the nearest stars.

Brother Coa wrote:

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Now I am not sure where all your Tau hate comes from, maybe you got your butt handed to you one to many times in table top games against Tau players, or you are just are one of those sad people that just enjoys hating things different from what they like, but what ever, try to base your arguments with actual or at least GW printed facts, and don't extrapolate them just to make your delusional ideas seem less delusional.

Several things:

-Tau are hated because of Tau players, implementing the awesomeness and technological superiority of Tau to everybody else in their face. I am on this forum for quite some time, all I have learned from Tau players is that Fire Warriors outnumber Imperial Guardsman ( and they stated all of them in the entire Imperium ), that Tau navy outnumber Imperium Navy in general, that Tau can enter Eye of Terror and kill Chaos Gods and lot of other nonsense I read here... and when people try to tell them it's different than that, Tau fans say that we are hating their faction and making up Tau genocide threads. Go figure...

-And no matter if Tau had some success like Taros or the thing that you mentioned in the spoilers, they are beaten back more then they are conquering. And the fact is that Tau usually attack poorly defended Imperial Worlds ( Nimbosa was defended only by 1 Guard Regiment, they had to face entire Tau invasion force ), they never attacked world that was defended by larger Imperial force then 2 - 3 Guard Regiments. And poorly equipped and undermanned if I might add.

-And what Tau fanboys will never understand is that Tau will NEVER be a major threat to anyone. No matter how advanced their tech is. Simply because their FTL drive, witch is so primitive that makes even the Orks laugh. Tau will soon be unable to expand any further simply because they can't defend that much territory with so slow means of transportation. They already need some time from one end of their empire to another. Claiming more planets only means that reinforsments will need a longer time to get there to help them, that makes them vulnerable to hit and run attacks and raids.
Tau will never had better means of transportation. Etherials banned any research considering Warp technology simply because it's to dangerous. They can trade with Necrons but their tech is also primitive when it comes to FTL speeds. And the Wabway is to dangerous to travel in, only the Eldar know how to use it without losing anyone or anything.
Just like Necrontyrs and the Old Ones, the Old Ones beat them even if Necrontyr had better tech - simply because they needed years to travel to the nearest stars.

And this from the ultimate Marine fanboy,
Since Imperial Fans never make crazy claims or out of this world statements...no no its only Tau players that do that.

I dont discuss these things to prove any points or make myself feel superior or secure in my fictitious world of 40k, I discuss it because I enjoy the setting, I don't care if the Tau are a "Threat" to anyone in this fluff, But I am a threat if you ever play me on the tabletop, where fluff can't save you.

The Taros campaign was the IoM attacking the Tau, but avoid any facts that suit you as is your style.

And as to your points of FTL drive, well yes they are slower, but dont disappear in the warp or arrive decades and centuries later than expected, (and they are improving on their drives as stated in BFG excepts about the Kor'Or'Vesh) but again thats a fact of other species warp systems, that is often overlooked. oh well.

And for all the nevers you like to say..well nevers usually dont last, we will see what the next codex brings, but regardless of your time on this forum your bais is always apparent, your a Marine/IoM fanboy and cannot see any failings in it, good for you, I like the Tau but admit to many failings they may have...its part of why I like them. If I am a fanboy..well my age makes me more of a Fanman, been a good 31 years since Boy would be a likely term, then I am also a Ork, IG and marine fan as well, just not a rabid one such as you.

Mainly it seems that the Pro IoM are the most vocal of trying to tell such and such ( i.e. Tau ) that they are not a threat and never will be..seems like alot of big talk to me, trying to convice themselves of something hmmmm.

Anyway cherry pick away, and hate all you want , until Tau become a bad selling product in the GW line, they are here.

P.S. Brother Coa your location should be spelled Holy Terra....not Holly Terra just a FYI.

People, lets stop arguing if the Imperium can defeat the Tau. Its ridiculuos and almost noone is using clear GW facts. This is just "MAI ARMEH IZ BETTA TEHN YOURZ!"

No argument from me..a argument would entail I was actually angry or cared about the out come, but I do love a good discussion, and sometimes you learn something from one.

GW never really prints any 100% facts on anything, so to wait for that as a basis for a discussion..... well we will be a very quiet board.

These type of threads always..devolve into chest thumping, nature of the beast.

But Space Crusader I appreciate your attempt to put things in perspective, but there is not alot of that going around usually.

Discussion good...arguing bad.

And again Space crusader I do not mean any of this as sarcasm directed at you, the Internet is a difficult means of conversation sometimes.

I acctuly don't care if the Tau are considered cowardly for attacking the enemy when they are at their weakest. Do you expect them to be like "sir, the enemys forces are more powerfull now then ever!" "aha! The perfect opurtunity to attack them so we can show our manly manlyness". And as I stated earlier the Tau are not so easy to defeat. OFC the imperium could propably do it with mayby 0,02 percent of their forces but untold billions/5000 is still realy much.

Cowardly tactics is what one side calls anothers means of geting a advantage upon them, someone uses a novel strategy that catches the other off guard...the its "you cowards, how dare you attack me where I am weak!"

I am sure any surviving Trojans thought the horse was a pretty cowardly thing to do....but it worked.

Winning is winning.

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
And this from the ultimate HUMAN fanboy,
Since Imperial Fans never make crazy claims or out of this world statements...no no its only Tau players that do that.

Fixed that for you, and I never laid claims that Imperium can bet everyone because I am realistic. Unlike Tau players.

I dont discuss these things to prove any points or make myself feel superior or secure in my fictitious world of 40k, I discuss it because I enjoy the setting, I don't care if the Tau are a "Threat" to anyone in this fluff, But I am a threat if you ever play me on the tabletop, where fluff can't save you.

I don't fell superiour nor do I need to prove it - because that is true. On one Tau world come 10.000 Humans worlds. TT and fluff is not the same, aldo I see your point. I still have to play my first table game, but I can beat you hard in Dawn of War since I am playing it every day from 2004.

The Taros campaign was the IoM attacking the Tau, but avoid any facts that suit you as is your style.

Who attacked first? I could sworn that Tau annexed the planet and then Imperium attacked to reclaim it. This I see as Tau agreesion so they attacked first.

And as to your points of FTL drive, well yes they are slower, but dont disappear in the warp or arrive decades and centuries later than expected, (and they are improving on their drives as stated in BFG excepts about the Kor'Or'Vesh) but again thats a fact of other species warp systems, that is often overlooked. oh well.

Warp have his flaws but it is still reliable most of the time ( Armageddon War, 13'th Black Crusade, Battle for Macragge etc... ). My point is that Tau will never achieve great light speeds, no matter how much they upgraded their drives. Humans from Golden Age of Technology couldn't do that in thousands of years and you think Tau will do that in several decades? They ( Humans from the GAoH )already stated it is impossible to have grater speeds than that of the current Tau ones, exept Warp and the Webway.

And for all the nevers you like to say..well nevers usually dont last, we will see what the next codex brings, but regardless of your time on this forum your bais is always apparent, your a Marine/IoM fanboy and cannot see any failings in it, good for you, I like the Tau but admit to many failings they may have...its part of why I like them. If I am a fanboy..well my age makes me more of a Fanman, been a good 31 years since Boy would be a likely term, then I am also a Ork, IG and marine fan as well, just not a rabid one such as you.

Mainly it seems that the Pro IoM are the most vocal of trying to tell such and such ( i.e. Tau ) that they are not a threat and never will be..seems like alot of big talk to me, trying to convice themselves of something hmmmm.

And waht kind of threat are Tau? They need centuries to get to the Macragge ( they already need week to get from the one end of their empire to another if I am not mistaken ), they are threat to the local planet but not to the Imperium as whole. And they never will be. I am not convincing myself, I am just seeing reality here.

Anyway cherry pick away, and hate all you want , until Tau become a bad selling product in the GW line, they are here.

Here only 1 guy collect them in the entire country. And most selling miniatures on the planet are still Astartes. And there is no indication that they will ever be replaced by some other faction. Adn I don't want to see Tau out of the 40k setting, they are cool. I just want to see people stop claiming that Tau are grater then they already are.

P.S. Brother Coa your location should be spelled Holy Terra....not Holly Terra just a FYI.

For me, the most holly and sacred place in this universe or any other is our beloved planet Earth. She is indded holy site, giving life and offering shelter and home to us Humans and all other lifeforms. Because of that Holly Terra deserves 2 L in it's name, and a lot more than that.



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Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:Cowardly tactics is what one side calls anothers means of geting a advantage upon them, someone uses a novel strategy that catches the other off guard...the its "you cowards, how dare you attack me where I am weak!"

I am sure any surviving Trojans thought the horse was a pretty cowardly thing to do....but it worked.

Winning is winning.

I didn't call Tau cowards, I just presented the fact that they never faced large Imperial forces.

Win is win, I agree. But because Tau hav win at Taros against poorly led Imperials or Nimbosa by destroying 1 Imperial Guard Regiment doesen't mean that they can kill Chaos Gods and have a tea party after this.

At Zeist they have been owned by several Space Marine Chapters, and not on full strength at all.
They were almost defeated by Tyranid Hive Fleet that made itself invulnerable to the plasma fire. It was only defeated after Imperial Guard helped the Tau.
At Nimbosa, after they took and fortify the worlds they were massacred by Black Templars and Ultramarines, and that are just 2 Marine Chapters. With Ultramrines bringing only their 1'st company into combat.
Let's be reasonable, Tau as much strong as they are would be extinct if they were every attacked by Ork WARGHHH size of one that attacked Armageddon. Or Tyranid Hive Fleet Leviathan.

Sorry.. a IoM fanboy then cause they barely even treat their own people in a Humane way.

For the rest, you just reinforced my points, but hey maybe its a language gap or something..oh well

And HOLLY is not the Proper english spelling of HOLY...Holly is a form of plant, or a form of christmas you can have. ( it just makes you look kinda ignorant..sorry )

Dawn of war..played that along time ago, then DOW 2, did not much like them, twitch fests, but to each their own.

And Taros, the planet traded with the Tau, and the IoM sent marines to kill the governor, and the Tau protected him, but call it what you will, I encourge you to actually read it, its quite good.

DID I EVER SAY THEY WERE A THREAT...sorry but I have never made any allegations to that, you were the one saying they were not, I just stated I did not care, basically. ( Again likely a language thing )

Any rate learn to play the tabletop, and who knows one day you may actually get to play me, not likely but weirder things have happend.

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:Sorry.. a IoM fanboy then cause they barely even treat their own people in a Humane way.

For the rest, you just reinforced my points, but hey maybe its a language gap or something..oh well

And HOLLY is not the Proper english spelling of HOLY...Holly is a form of plant, or a form of christmas you can have. ( it just makes you look kinda ignorant..sorry )

Dawn of war..played that along time ago, then DOW 2, did not much like them, twitch fests, but to each their own.

And Taros, the planet traded with the Tau, and the IoM sent marines to kill the governor, and the Tau protected him, but call it what you will, I encourge you to actually read it, its quite good.

DID I EVER SAY THEY WERE A THREAT...sorry but I have never made any allegations to that, you were the one saying they were not, I just stated I did not care, basically. ( Again likely a language thing )

Any rate learn to play the tabletop, and who knows one day you may actually get to play me, not likely but weirder things have happend.

Sorry Soo'Vah'Cha (Im assuming that's a Tau name that translates into something cool), but give it up. Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions. Your rational and well-argued points are either ignored, cherry-picked, or just replied with pro-Imperial propaganda slogans that bear no relevance to the point at hand. I applaud your efforts, and it's awesome to see someone defend the Tau (in a not so irrational fanboy way), but c'mon. Let's let this thread die, because no worthwhile or meaningful discussion is coming from it. It's only providing opportunities for fanboy hyperbole (whether its IoM or Tau Empire) to run amok.

Yeah I know, but the military training in me has a hard time dealing with such blatant idiocy.

Hmmmm, Well I can't really have a war of wits with him then, since ROE and the Geneva Convention don't allow me to open fire on the unarmed.

p.s. Yeah Soo'Vah'Cha is Tau for Artful shot, a name I planned on using for a human protagonist in a 40k novel I worked on during my last deployment, gets real boring up on those OPs.

I read the whole thing, and to prove it, I can say that I liked you pictures Soo'Vah'Cha.

There was some loud debattleing going on but I'm happy to say its over, though I did miss my chance to get my word in.

Ronin wrote:
Sorry Soo'Vah'Cha (Im assuming that's a Tau name that translates into something cool), but give it up.

His name is cool, I want one liek that

Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions.

I thank you and respectfully taking the title. I am pround to be a Human fan to the bone.

Your rational and well-argued points are either ignored, cherry-picked, or just replied with pro-Imperial propaganda slogans that bear no relevance to the point at hand.

Like Tau fans have given good arguments to us like: "We have Railgunz that can shoot stars.....", please - you are not more ignoring cherry picking replied sloganeers with no bear to the relevance with the point at hand then we are.

I applaud your efforts, and it's awesome to see someone defend the Tau (in a not so irrational fanboy way), but c'mon. Let's let this thread die, because no worthwhile or meaningful discussion is coming from it. It's only providing opportunities for fanboy hyperbole (whether its IoM or Tau Empire) to run amok.

I like Soo'Vah'Cha claims to, they are reasonable to start with. And it's nice to see Tau player defending Tau with reason and reality and not fanboyism.



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Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
And HOLLY is not the Proper english spelling of HOLY...Holly is a form of plant, or a form of christmas you can have. ( it just makes you look kinda ignorant..sorry )

Didn't know holly is a plant, I corrected that and thank you for that.

And Taros, the planet traded with the Tau, and the IoM sent marines to kill the governor, and the Tau protected him, but call it what you will, I encourge you to actually read it, its quite good.

I read it again, trading is just Tau way of imposing it's will over the primitive Taros population. And the Tau didn't start Taros incident: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Denab_Incident#.TtIitrLbzw4 it was smugglers.


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Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:Yeah I know, but the military training in me has a hard time dealing with such blatant idiocy.

For a military men you have high sense of honor being provoked by internet thread.

Hmmmm, Well I can't really have a war of wits with him then, since ROE and the Geneva Convention don't allow me to open fire on the unarmed.

It's ok, we hate Americans anyway. And who today respect Geneva Convention?

The smugglers told on the planetary governor, after being caught by the Imperial navy, but yes trade is a way the Tau exert their influance, its how almost every nation/race that trades exerts thier influance, the Iom unfortunatly doe not trade, and fears all outside influances, people always want what is forbbiden to them.
But the War for Taros is a excellent read, not nearly the fan spank that the paragraph on Nimbosa and the Codex blurb about Zeist, but hey its 40k, what one codex gives the next will take away.

I retract my more unpleasant things I said, and register you in the Tau Index as when captured you will be well treated, and fed at least 3 times per day, and alotted a warm rock to sun on.

and kid..if you think I was provoked then, you are delusional, trust me on that.

Ledabot wrote:I read the whole thing, and to prove it, I can say that I liked you pictures Soo'Vah'Cha.

There was some loud debattleing going on but I'm happy to say its over, though I did miss my chance to get my word in.

Soooo, Ledabot, you like homeworld?

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:The smugglers told on the planetary governor, after being caught by the Imperial navy, but yes trade is a way the Tau exert their influance, its how almost every nation/race that trades exerts thier influance, the Iom unfortunatly doe not trade, and fears all outside influances, people always want what is forbbiden to them.
But the War for Taros is a excellent read, not nearly the fan spank that the paragraph on Nimbosa and the Codex blurb about Zeist, but hey its 40k, what one codex gives the next will take away.

I retract my more unpleasant things I said, and register you in the Tau Index as when captured you will be well treated, and fed at least 3 times per day, and alotted a warm rock to sun on.

and kid..if you think I was provoked then, you are delusional, trust me on that.

It's en excellent read indeed, I am just awkward on Imperial leaders. And it's nice that Tau have at least one victory over the Imperium in some big even fight.
Just don't exaggerated things. Tau can't beat the Imperium even if they wanted to. Adn Imperium have more then enough to turn Tau into dust. But for now they are not registered on Terra's radar so they are safe, until GW decide to move timeline and turn this galaxy into warzone between Orks, Chaos, Imperium, Tyranids and Necrons.

And no hard feeling here to, I to get overexcited sometime.

And I didn't provoke you - I don't need to. When someone from US is insulting me I just remember that we shot down F-117 Nightwing with Soviet technology from late 60' and early 70', and great smile come across my face. Like this

So killing another countries personell that your country is not at war with, with some old weapon systems makes you..happy.......hmmm I retract my retraction.

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:So killing another countries personell that your country is not at war with, with some old weapon systems makes you..happy.......hmmm I retract my retraction.

Are you high?

It was in war, 1999 bombing of FRY. We take down you most advanced craft at that time ( beside B-2 and F-22 Raptor that was still in development ) with rocket system that was almost 35-40 years old. That is FAIL in my book.

Brother Coa wrote:

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:So killing another countries personell that your country is not at war with, with some old weapon systems makes you..happy.......hmmm I retract my retraction.

Are you high?

It was in war, 1999 bombing of FRY. We take down you most advanced craft at that time ( beside B-2 and F-22 Raptor that was still in development ) with rocket system that was almost 35-40 years old. That is FAIL in my book.

Dude, I'd leave politics out of this debate(argument) if I were you. Besides being no way related to the subject of this thread it's likely to get you a warning.

Never mind my mistake I thought your flag was a russian one, not Republic of Serbia, sorry. So ya you shot down a advanced fighter with a old soviet weapon, and if you put 1000 monkeys in a room with typewriters eventually one will write shakespeare play.

oh well, and again sorry for mistaking you for a Russian.

and I did not bring it up...brother Coa did.

It's ok, I already asked the Mods to close this thread. It's becoming another flame war.

And it's ok, we all get over our heads sometimes.

Ronin wrote:

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:Sorry.. a IoM fanboy then cause they barely even treat their own people in a Humane way.

For the rest, you just reinforced my points, but hey maybe its a language gap or something..oh well

And HOLLY is not the Proper english spelling of HOLY...Holly is a form of plant, or a form of christmas you can have. ( it just makes you look kinda ignorant..sorry )

Dawn of war..played that along time ago, then DOW 2, did not much like them, twitch fests, but to each their own.

And Taros, the planet traded with the Tau, and the IoM sent marines to kill the governor, and the Tau protected him, but call it what you will, I encourge you to actually read it, its quite good.

DID I EVER SAY THEY WERE A THREAT...sorry but I have never made any allegations to that, you were the one saying they were not, I just stated I did not care, basically. ( Again likely a language thing )

Any rate learn to play the tabletop, and who knows one day you may actually get to play me, not likely but weirder things have happend.

Sorry Soo'Vah'Cha (Im assuming that's a Tau name that translates into something cool), but give it up. Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions. Your rational and well-argued points are either ignored, cherry-picked, or just replied with pro-Imperial propaganda slogans that bear no relevance to the point at hand. I applaud your efforts, and it's awesome to see someone defend the Tau (in a not so irrational fanboy way), but c'mon. Let's let this thread die, because no worthwhile or meaningful discussion is coming from it. It's only providing opportunities for fanboy hyperbole (whether its IoM or Tau Empire) to run amok.

Never denied being an Imperium fan. Quite proud of it...the Imperium is a symbol of Human nature...proud, xenophobic, with no empathy at all for those it refuses to accept, and willing to go to any ends necessary to achieve victory.

dear God ..it gets worse, yes I am also asking to shut this idiocy down, I love a good discussion but this has become neither.

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:dear God ..it gets worse, yes I am also asking to shut this idiocy down, I love a good discussion but this has become neither.

I told you so

Skarwael wrote:

Ledabot wrote:I read the whole thing, and to prove it, I can say that I liked you pictures Soo'Vah'Cha.

There was some loud debattleing going on but I'm happy to say its over, though I did miss my chance to get my word in.

Soooo, Ledabot, you like homeworld?

First person ever to notice!!!

Iv'e done a bit more fiddiling with it but they couldn't fit a hat, so I was saving them till after christmas.


Edit: maybe you should pm me if you want to talk about it, this place is falling apart.

I think this is very cute.

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:dear God ..it gets worse, yes I am also asking to shut this idiocy down, I love a good discussion but this has become neither.

Yes, why must every good tau genocide fantasy thread degenerate into a hate feast
Esp. when one poster enters that calls all tau players hateworthy and smiles at Americans being killed.

Good god this thread is fethed. And i put the black crusades in a win-loss-draw format.

Hey so vaa chaa you say you plays tau due to they are most like the us military. May i ask how? And yeah ig are strongly based on ww2 tactics, but you can run a combined arms style on the tabletop.