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2012/06/19 01:42:21
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
Well the Sales guy confirmed the photo is the actual BRB for 6th edition and allies are in for 6th edition to our store.
In other news, this is just GW strategy to get people talking and excited/anticipated for 6th edition. We are all playing right into their hands. Masterful work GW, now shut up and take my money.
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2012/06/19 01:51:55
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
Oh, oh! Allies. Ok, here's my theory on that. We've seen a few people say that thanks to GW's prices, they've seen a drop in the amount of players who buy 2nd and 3rd and 4th armies.
But allies are the solution to that. It'll be like Mercenaries and Minions in Warmachine/Hordes. You'll pick up a unit here and there, and the next thing you'll know, hey, you only need to spend another $100 or so and you'll have a whole new army!
Denkstrum wrote:In other news, this is just GW strategy to get people talking and excited/anticipated for 6th edition. We are all playing right into their hands. Masterful work GW, now shut up and take my money.
Never attribute to competence that which can be... and so on and so forth.
infinite_array wrote:Oh, oh! Allies. Ok, here's my theory on that. We've seen a few people say that thanks to GW's prices, they've seen a drop in the amount of players who buy 2nd and 3rd and 4th armies.
But allies are the solution to that. It'll be like Mercenaries and Minions in Warmachine/Hordes. You'll pick up a unit here and there, and the next thing you'll know, hey, you only need to spend another $100 or so and you'll have a whole new army!
Or you know. It's just the 40k verstion of the allie rules for Fantsey. As in rules for 2vs.2 games.
2012/06/19 03:27:14
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
infinite_array wrote:Oh, oh! Allies. Ok, here's my theory on that. We've seen a few people say that thanks to GW's prices, they've seen a drop in the amount of players who buy 2nd and 3rd and 4th armies.
But allies are the solution to that. It'll be like Mercenaries and Minions in Warmachine/Hordes. You'll pick up a unit here and there, and the next thing you'll know, hey, you only need to spend another $100 or so and you'll have a whole new army!
Or you know. It's just the 40k verstion of the allie rules for Fantsey. As in rules for 2vs.2 games.
redcapscorner wrote:
I'm a store owner, and I just got off the phone with my GW rep. The GW sales team in the US has had a chance to look through the 6th edition books at this point, and he was able to confirm the following for me. None of this stuff is terribly specific, because he wants this Saturday's White Dwarf to have the big reveals:
3) Allies are 100% in, and not just for team games. There are definitely, without a doubt, rules that allow you to use models in your list from allied factions. Again, he wasn't specific, but he mentioned that you still needed minimum one HQ and two troops from your book, but beyond that allies are an option.
Could it be the cover to the starter set? Maybe they're releasing a hardcover little book for that? It is DA after all.
Now the real trick will be is someone can get a shot of the Gamer and Collector covers.
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2012/06/19 03:58:25
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
infinite_array wrote:Oh, oh! Allies. Ok, here's my theory on that. We've seen a few people say that thanks to GW's prices, they've seen a drop in the amount of players who buy 2nd and 3rd and 4th armies.
But allies are the solution to that. It'll be like Mercenaries and Minions in Warmachine/Hordes. You'll pick up a unit here and there, and the next thing you'll know, hey, you only need to spend another $100 or so and you'll have a whole new army!
Or you know. It's just the 40k verstion of the allie rules for Fantsey. As in rules for 2vs.2 games.
What exactly are those? The guys that Igame with at my FLGS never use the rules for allies.
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2012/06/19 04:33:56
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
spaceXjam wrote:confirmed that this is not the cover for the standard Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition
We have a few people who say that it has been confirmed, when they called in.
And then you come in with one line and say that it's not.
Someone's trolling, and somehow, I doubt it's the people who are saying it is confirmed.
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
2012/06/19 05:42:32
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
spaceXjam wrote:confirmed that this is not the cover for the standard Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition
Source?
DO:70S++G++M+B++I+Pw40k93/f#++D++++A++++/eWD-R++++T(D)DM+ Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0
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2012/06/19 08:15:58
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
infinite_array wrote:Oh, oh! Allies. Ok, here's my theory on that. We've seen a few people say that thanks to GW's prices, they've seen a drop in the amount of players who buy 2nd and 3rd and 4th armies.
But allies are the solution to that. It'll be like Mercenaries and Minions in Warmachine/Hordes. You'll pick up a unit here and there, and the next thing you'll know, hey, you only need to spend another $100 or so and you'll have a whole new army!
Or you know. It's just the 40k verstion of the allie rules for Fantsey. As in rules for 2vs.2 games.
redcapscorner wrote:
I'm a store owner, and I just got off the phone with my GW rep. The GW sales team in the US has had a chance to look through the 6th edition books at this point, and he was able to confirm the following for me. None of this stuff is terribly specific, because he wants this Saturday's White Dwarf to have the big reveals:
3) Allies are 100% in, and not just for team games. There are definitely, without a doubt, rules that allow you to use models in your list from allied factions. Again, he wasn't specific, but he mentioned that you still needed minimum one HQ and two troops from your book, but beyond that allies are an option.
That's all!
Soooo... yeah.
This however contradicts earlier information from someone who also said to have seen the actual book, so I will just wait until I see it myself.
I wouldn't mind it being true as long as they make it very specific as to who can be ally to who, and rule out non-sensemaking combos.
E.g. Marines & Guard & GK can be allies (duh), and Eldar can be allies with Guard, but Orks can't be allies with GK and Tyranids can't be allies with anybody, etc. Otherwise it would make for quite a lot of stupid Imo.
2012/06/19 08:51:53
Subject: Re:6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
I had thought/heard/hoped that the ally rules were indeed an addition to the normal game rules...
....I wonder now somewhat if the ally rules are the "get out clause" with regards to armies like Necrons or Dark Eldar getting access to the new psychic powers and rules perhaps ?
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2012/06/19 09:19:52
Subject: Re:6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
reds8n wrote: I had thought/heard/hoped that the ally rules were indeed an addition to the normal game rules...
....I wonder now somewhat if the ally rules are the "get out clause" with regards to armies like Necrons or Dark Eldar getting access to the new psychic powers and rules perhaps ?
More likely the "get out cause" for some players
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2012/06/19 09:30:44
Subject: Re:6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
What strikes me most is that we are 11 days away from the new release, and not one person has had the appropriately sized testicles to leak more information on this yet!
If you are reading this and you have a copy, come on what are you waiting for?! Do you want to die old and decrepit, clinging to a loved ones hand and passing away with barely a whimper ?! Or, do you want to go out with a fire in your eyes, and song in your heart?! In a blaze of glory that will make you a hero to thousands, and the tales of your passing told to children born a hundred years hence?!
spaceXjam wrote:confirmed that this is not the cover for the standard Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition
Gotta love bs comments such as these.
An other confirmation via Warseer; from people who have seen the WD:
The leaked photo of the cover is correct, that is the new cover of the normal hardback rulebook. The collectors edition looks *******' sweet though, with amazing artwork and brass doodads, etc etc. The skull measuring tape is pretty cool too, and the munitorum dice come in a lasgun charge pack case, and are also pretty nicely designed. The special edition templates follow the Fantasy example of being somewhat visually-related to the game, except instead of faux-gold framing, they're faux-steel framed, with coruscating arcs of blue psychic fire spoking out from the middle of each (or the narrow end of the flame template)
2012/06/19 09:57:16
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
Damit. I was going to wait for the mini rule book or the iPad edition, but now I want the collectors edition.
I'm not interested in the templates (silver bits of plastic? I'll pass thank you) or the measuring tape (I'm happy with the one I have, but I may pick one up if mine brakes at some point). The dice sound usefull and I may pick up some if they are when I have a few pounds spare but I now NEED the limited edition rule book. If it is anything like the warhammer one it will be a lovely object to own. Never mind that I can't carry it anywhere and it is to large to be of any use.
insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
2012/06/19 16:23:31
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
reds8n wrote: I had thought/heard/hoped that the ally rules were indeed an addition to the normal game rules...
....I wonder now somewhat if the ally rules are the "get out clause" with regards to armies like Necrons or Dark Eldar getting access to the new psychic powers and rules perhaps ?
I'm not so sure about that. Dwarves in Fantasy dont get magic and they've had nothing special. Every other race is waiting for their book to get done so they get their cards. Some races have had magic cards because they were so close to the release of 8th ed Fantasy. The Beastmen and Skaven and high elves all got cards. Beastmen cos they were so close to release and Skaven and Elve cos they were in the big box. It seems like a lot of cards for 40k though. The initial fantasy set covers the 8 schools of magic which a number of races have access to bits of so it's a universal base. I'm wondering if they are going to have similar in 40k or if they are going to do all the existing ones from the codices in one big pack.
Allies in Fantasy relate to how you can join two forces together and they can or cant use each others generals / standard bearers or characters joining units and leadership tests. Ive not seen them as a way to compensate for magic or lack of it. From what I've read and heard it's not used much in Fantasy and I can't see why it would be a big deal for 40k.
2012/06/19 18:41:28
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
74 bucks for the new RB? god i dont think anyone at my 40k club will buy it. I am, but i already have 50$ saved from collecting change. and im going to go get a bunch of money from collecting cans.
5000pts 6000pts 3000pts
2012/06/19 18:50:13
Subject: 6th Ed Front Cover? Spoiler alert if you don't want to see, don't look!
The 5th Edition Rulebook had Marines on the cover. In fact, it's the same damn picture as on the Black Reach Box, with a Hammer put overtop of it.
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 
Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 
Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 
Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 
Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 
Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 
Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 
Crimson Tide 59-4-0 
Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 
Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 
BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 
IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 
RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 
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3000pts