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Given how long Evan Peters has been associated with the role (almost 7 years according to IMDB) across three high profile movies (and Deadpool 2) I think the odds of many people who were already disposed to watch this show not being at least tangentially aware he was significant are pretty small.
Frankly if the studio had any real significant doubt that it wouldn't work as intended they'd have played it differently.
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Well they've had a lot of time to finish the series.
Remember that we were meant to be getting these last year. 2020 wasn't meant to be a Marvel-less year. We were supposed to get at least 3 films, plus Falcon/Winter Soldier (as the first series) and then either Wandavision or Loki next.
Loki won't be far behind Falcon/Winter Soldier, I imagine.
creeping-deth87 wrote: So, a thought after having a conversation with a friend about that appearance at the end there...
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My buddy, who also loves the MCU, had absolutely no clue who Peter Evans was because the X-Men were off in their own 20th Century Fox universe and he wasn't invested because... well, let's face it, the Fox X-Men films were a mixed bag. Only today, after talking about it with me a few days after having seen the episode, did he realize who that actually was, and that really has me wondering how many other MCU fans just didn't get that final cameo.
The important thing is that within the show they referenced it's a different person when Darcy mentions the recast. So even if people don't realize it's Fox's Quicksilver, they are made aware that it isn't the same person and that fact is significant. The icing on the cake is that within the genre of sitcoms recasting characters fits as a trope that everyone is aware of already, so that makes it extra interesting.
Will Vision know the difference? If Wanda doesn't (which it already seems like is the case) does that mean that someone is mind controlling her as well as everyone else? When Vision breaks Norm free from the mind control he tells Vision that you have to stop her, but he never says Wanda. It could be some other "her" pulling all the strings?
where Wanda starts pulling mutants from other Timelines. Incoming Deadpool Cameo!
My guess?
Spoiler:
This will essentially be a one off thing that establishes that Wanda isn't changing reality but merely pulling from other realities. The next episodes moments of "wrongness" are going to center on how this Pietro's past doesn't line up with hers. We won't see Fox's world cross over but we'll establish it as a parallel reality.
On that note, Deadpool accidentally already got set up to cross over. His movie literally ends with him messing around with a time machine, which canonically means he's playing around in alternative realities and very easily could accidentally end up in the MCU.
So what 90's sitcom do we think is going to get parodied in the next episode? Malcolm in the Middle didn't start until 2000 so that is probably going to be 2 episodes from now, and I'm guessing Modern Family is going to be the 2010's parody episode.
What were the popular family sitcoms in the 90's? All I can remember is like Friends which isn't really a family sitcom so probably isn't what they are going to do.
Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
So was this really how Maria Rambeau was written out of the MCU? Offscreen death in a passing reference? I liked her in Captain Marvel and this just seems like a disservice, not to mention a waste of her potential.
Necroagogo wrote: So was this really how Maria Rambeau was written out of the MCU? Offscreen death in a passing reference? I liked her in Captain Marvel and this just seems like a disservice, not to mention a waste of her potential.
Ah well. Wandavision's still top-notch, though.
Well I mean... She was like 30. So it would be her in her early 60s at this point? We already did that with Peggy Carter in Winter Solider and Civil War. Her characters contribution at this stage wouldn't be much different. With her being dead from cancer and the way Monica was talking about Cap. Marvel I suspect maybe Monica blames Carol (her powers and/or some kind of radiation being a supposed cause for the cancer. Or her just disappearing for so many years kind of thing... dunno). Now her mothers death can act as a wedge between the 2 characters and that is both more interesting and something we haven't seen yet.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
I don't get why she'd feel "abandoned" really. Carol was gone all the way up to the snap, so its not like Monica would have any sense of her return. It's very possible we'll learn that she stuck around on Earth for a while and only returned to space after Maria's death.
Given how powerful Carol is, there may be a lingering sense that she could have stopped her mum from dying (even though she probably couldn’t), or at least been there for her going through that misery.
Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
With Pietro But Not That Pietro Like A Different Pietro But Not Wanda’s Pietro....
Could we be seeing a ballsy attempt to start making sense of the X-Men timeline?
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Question is how? Is the “Wandavision” Pietro actually her brother? I’ve seen one theory floating around that he’s actually Mephisto. But the one I saw just recently, that I actually kinda of like is that he might be Loki(!)...
The logic being that Loki managing to snag the Time Stone created the timeline fork that The Ancient One warned Hulk about. And we know that Loki is going to be involved with the Time Variance Authority. Which, since Loki is Loki, will undoubtably end up with some kind of mischief happening. Anyway, if he needed Wanda’s power for something, he might blip back to the “main” MCU timeline. Maybe because whatever Wanda’s doing in Eastview poses a threat the TVA has to deal with? Perhaps breaking down the barriers between the timelines? Cuz that never happens in the comics...
But, and here’s the bit that hooks me, if the forked timeline he was in was the one with mutants, the only “Pietro” his might know was the one from the X-Men series, not the mainline MCU one. So he shows up in Eastview, appearing as the Pietro he knows, not as the one from the main MCU timeline.
Anyway, she “recognizes” him as her brother since she’s probably aware, at some level, that X-Men Quicksilver “Is” her brother (albeit from another timeline). Hence her pause, but her seeming acceptance that he’s Pietro. Mephisto or Agatha Harkness could still be the “bad guy” proper in WandaVision since Loki, has more or less been reformed into just a trickster, not villain. That pulls the Disney+ shows together, works with the multiverse of madness potential of the next Dr. Strange movie, and gives a path to bring the X-Men into the MCU.
Anyway, just a fun “what if” exercise. It’ll be fun to see how this all plays out... I’m freaking loving what Disney’s doing here.
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I would bet all my money that they are not going to say this has anything to do with the various fox x men franchises. Those timelines are such a complete mess along with using and recasting characters over and over that I am sure the MCU wants to use with fresh new takes. That gak is going to get buried and forgotten.
Spoiler:
Who THIS Pietro is wand why he has been "recast" is a self contained mystery of the show itself. Though at this point I think it's more Agnes who did this part of it.
Agnes is clearly involved in a way that is very different from say... Norm. Norm is forced to play a part with his actual personality and thoughts over written. Agnes is getting mental messages about what Wanda wants to happen but shes is playing along in a way the others do not seem to be. So what exactly is Agnes's deal I think is the bigger question then who this new Pietro is (Remember that the Fox version isn't even named Pietro - he's Peter). If Wanda really didn't make him and really didn't bring him to the door then the only other option on the table right now is Agnes.
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