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 Blackie wrote:
Which one? New or old one?

New one. Never seen the old one.
I was recommended to read the book many years ago and thought that it was pretty rubbish back then. Trying to be open minded I thought maybe I just didn't "get it" at the time. After this I'm convinced: Dune is crap.
   
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The old film is wonderfully awful and stupid, featuring some of Sir Picard's finest bellowing and scenery chewing, I won't claim it's so bad its good as its not, but its an experience

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I absolutely loved the new Dune. Watched it for a second time the other day on 4k disc and through a pretty good sound system and it knocked my socks off.

Brilliantly cast, excellent pacing, and it managed (I thought) to bring in that balance of appealing to both those who have never read the book and those that have. My partner went in completely blind and understood what was going on, I love the books and appreciated that they did as good a job as they could have - the story was concerned 'unfilmable' for many years, and with good reason.

As well as that thought the sets and production are absolutely a work of art. Villeuneuve is pretty good with it anyway, but I think this even surpassed the new Blade Runner in producing an environment that is completely tangible, utterly believable - you almost felt like you could reach out and touch the sets.

I'm just glad it performed well enough for the 2nd half to be green-lit, it would have been a tragedy if they had just stopped at that point.

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It seems baffling to me in the modern day a studio would make a film in two parts, but wait to see how the first was received before doing the second.

I’m sure there are good reasons. It just seems very unusual, especially Post MCU.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It seems baffling to me in the modern day a studio would make a film in two parts, but wait to see how the first was received before doing the second.

I’m sure there are good reasons. It just seems very unusual, especially Post MCU.


I think it's a combo of things, the blessings of Nurgle and the availability of the cast making a long shoot double film nigh impossible, general risk adverse nature of the film industry to back things without "brand" back up, and Space films not being popular, the last one is odd as divisive as nu-Wars was it still took money, just not all the moneys

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Stil have yet to see the new Dune, but nobody ever said anything bad about it. Usually that's a sort of alarm sign for me, but in this case I think it actually is that nice.



Last night I decided to give the Netflix show Disenchanted another go (initially stopped after the secon season). It's alright-ish, but incredibly meandering and it feels rather shallow. There's way too many characters, too much pointless plot, too little point. Maybe I just wasn't in it enough, but it all felt very meh. I hope we're moving on from all that 'overarching storylines' and 20000 characters stuff again. It's funny, but that's exactly how soap operas (used to operate), right? Oh well. Films are more interesting. Trying to think what the last film was I saw. it's been a while, that's for certain.

   
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Harry Potter and the Uzbekistan Jail Bird

Holy #$%$, was that one actually... good?

Alfonso Cuarón does a great job keeping stuff moving along, great transitions and 'time passes' vignettes.

Yeah it has the issues the book does, we're still in school hijinks/boy's adventure mode and an incredibly powerful device is introduced and used to... take extra classes. Then never used again.

Kyoto Secunda is halfway through book 6, and they have some spring/Eid break coming up so we'll be seeing more I assume.

 
   
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Jaws

Just showed this film to my son. He thought it became boring when they first got on the boat. He was very angry at the mayor, and then wanted to know if the Indianapolis story really happened.

Still a great movie as far as I’m concerned.

   
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Last night I watched Robocop. What a tight, frantic, efficient film that is. Here's how Policewoman Lewis is introduced: She knocks out some culprit. She takes off the helmet, looks friendly.That, along with the next two minutes between Murphy and her, establishes the character perfectly AND Murphy's character to boot. That's it. We also get that very well made backflash-sequence of Robocop walking into his old flat and that's it. We're off and don't need any further exposition, any artificial conflict between Murphy and Lewis, none of that.

Is Robocop the perfect action film? Well, maybe it is. 90 minutes, actionactionaction, good depiction of a near future (don't say 'world building', it's icky) and corporate america in the 80s, good special effects, gory (funny, the thing that seemed the goriest to me was how the ED-209 killed that guy in the suit).

   
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 Sigur wrote:
Last night I watched Robocop. What a tight, frantic, efficient film that is. Here's how Policewoman Lewis is introduced: She knocks out some culprit. She takes off the helmet, looks friendly.That, along with the next two minutes between Murphy and her, establishes the character perfectly AND Murphy's character to boot. That's it. We also get that very well made backflash-sequence of Robocop walking into his old flat and that's it. We're off and don't need any further exposition, any artificial conflict between Murphy and Lewis, none of that.

Is Robocop the perfect action film? Well, maybe it is. 90 minutes, actionactionaction, good depiction of a near future (don't say 'world building', it's icky) and corporate america in the 80s, good special effects, gory (funny, the thing that seemed the goriest to me was how the ED-209 killed that guy in the suit).


Yes. Yes it is.

Because it’s an excellent example of utterly brainless 8-‘s hyper violent action nonsense.

But, it’s also an excellent example of amazing film making. Lots and lots and of layers in play, should you care to dig. As a satire it’s sharp as a tack, but if you miss the satire it’s still a cohesive experience.

There’s just so, so much going on. But not having to look for it to enjoy it *cough cough Rick & Morty hack splutter retch Donnie Darko cough cough* at sheer face value is one hell of a film making achievement.

For more info, and the source of much of my deeper understanding, jump on YouTube and search Fact Fiend, Robocop. Because their vids are great and far more informed and eloquent than I!

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Calling Robocop a brainless action flick is like calling Starship Troopers a brainless action flick; you might just be outing yourself as a subject of the satire.

But then, we live in an era where people spend hundreds of dollars on They Live merchandise, so satire may be dead.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Calling Robocop a brainless action flick is like calling Starship Troopers a brainless action flick; you might just be outing yourself as a subject of the satire.

But then, we live in an era where people spend hundreds of dollars on They Live merchandise, so satire may be dead.


Read the rest of my post

Robocop and indeed Starship Troopers are highly competent Dumb Action Flicks. If that’s all the viewer is hoping for, they’ll be well satisfied. That there are then a great many layers beneath that superficial surface is brilliant film making.

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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Calling Robocop a brainless action flick is like calling Starship Troopers a brainless action flick; you might just be outing yourself as a subject of the satire.

But then, we live in an era where people spend hundreds of dollars on They Live merchandise, so satire may be dead.


I was going to say the same but the rest of his post makes it clear there's a lot more if you look.

I've read the Robocop was originally going to be a Judge Dredd film which certainly would have been interesting. IMHO neither of the two films got the satire that should be build into every Dredd story.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Calling Robocop a brainless action flick is like calling Starship Troopers a brainless action flick; you might just be outing yourself as a subject of the satire.

But then, we live in an era where people spend hundreds of dollars on They Live merchandise, so satire may be dead.


Read the rest of my post

Robocop and indeed Starship Troopers are highly competent Dumb Action Flicks. If that’s all the viewer is hoping for, they’ll be well satisfied. That there are then a great many layers beneath that superficial surface is brilliant film making.


Yeah, I read that. I was not necessarily responding just to you but to the criticism you briefly brought up. I know we’ve had posters here call Starship Troopers and Fury Road dumb movies, so the sentiment is common enough.

   
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Understandable.

I still heavily advocate that there’s absolutely bugger all wrong with any given media being tropey, daft, low rent and silly though. Just as I cannot eat a perfectly marbled steak, cooked just to my liking every day, lest it lose my appreciation? So there is Bugger all wrong with ultimately crap but still enjoyable dumbass films.

Robocop and Starship Troopers though are a super rare breed that entirely deliver on the superficial, but have quite incredible depth to those of a mind to dig, or even merely scratch, beneath the surface.’

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Understandable.

I still heavily advocate that there’s absolutely bugger all wrong with any given media being tropey, daft, low rent and silly though. Just as I cannot eat a perfectly marbled steak, cooked just to my liking every day, lest it lose my appreciation? So there is Bugger all wrong with ultimately crap but still enjoyable dumbass films.

Robocop and Starship Troopers though are a super rare breed that entirely deliver on the superficial, but have quite incredible depth to those of a mind to dig, or even merely scratch, beneath the surface.’



that's it. I'm not sure if there is all that much underneath the surface of Robocop or Starship Troopers, but there is something, and that something is woven into the films extremely well. But in the end we all agree that these films work on the level of spectacle and entertainment, but we can also feel somewhat smart for liking them because they got that one, two other levels to them. I only saw 3 minutes of the Robocop remake, but they also did try to have some subtext to the film. Unfortunately that one was made by hollywood hacks, so the 'message' was muddled, made no sense and ticked off some buzzwords (drones, big company bad-ish, middle east).

In newer blockbuster films, all that is replaced with 'characters' and their hokey motivations. Or maybe not. Who knows.


Last night I watched 15 minutes of a Finnish superhero action film Rendel from 2017. There was nothing but fighty scenes in dark warehouses, but oh well. Bless them for doing that film. I just didn't like the way the action scenes were cut. Maybe the idea was to present it like comicbook panels and that's why it was so choppy. The thing was rather brutal though. So if you wanna see some superhero film that isn't by the disney corporation, that's one option there.

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Doing the Back to the Future trilogy. This is going to be the first I’ve ever watched the third entry.

There’s no particular reason it’s taken me this long. Just one of those things I’ve never really gotten round to.

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Choose Or Die

Another installment in the Netflix "see what sticks" commission strategy. Choose or Die is a great example of what I feel really lies at the heart of the service's current struggles, a surfeit of perfectly reasonable quality, well funded but ultimately mediocre content that won't live long in the memory.

The plot centres on a mysterious video game, that once started gives the player a series of increasingly personally devastating choices with little information which is better or worse, and possess a supernatural ability to manifest those choices in the real world.

That's pretty much it, we follow a young woman as she tries to fight her way to the end of the game so she can escape. It's short at 85 minutes, and if you fancy watching something that feels like a riff on Jumanji with a dash of Ready Player One but a horror film, this is about your only option.

You won't hate it, but that's because you'll have forgotten it in a month.

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BTTF trilogy now watched.

It’s all very much enjoyable! Third one in particular surprised, as I’d somehow got it into my head I wouldn’t enjoy it.


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Journey to the Centre of the Earth

The Brendan Fraser one, released as a 3D movie.

It’s a family aimed Brendan Fraser flick, so pretty decent value for money. By no means is it anything new, but it’s still pretty decent fun. Also manages to squeeze in some science stuff, so it has some educational value too.

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Robin of Sherwood

House move complete, I’m now without Broadband Internet until 11 May. Which means I’ve 12 or so days to rediscover and devour (not literally, obvs) my DVD collection.

And so I’m kicking off this lesser known, but incredibly influential take on Robin Hood from the mid 80’s. Too fine a vintage for Ickle Me to have seen - and if I did, I’ve no memory of it.

It didn’t have an amazing budget so far as I’m aware, but you really can’t tell. Excellent use of Location Shooting, rather than wobbly sets.

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Tonight Matthew, I’m going to be watching the first two Ninja Turtles movies.

The good ones.

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I watched the 2007(?) CGI one some time on tv. That one wasn't that bad. Also watched 3 minutes of one of the Bay ones.

   
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The first one in particular is just a really solid kid’s ninja movie. Given their sheer popularity at the time, it could’ve been cheaply made guff, but they went a few steps beyond that.

The suits are incredibly impressive for their era, and the action is good fun.

Haven’t seen the second one in pretty much forever though!

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Tonight Matthew, I’m going to be watching the first two Ninja Turtles movies.

The good ones.


i recall telling some kids back when i worked with kids
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Binging on DS9, starting with Season 6.

Who would have thought an episode about a Klingon wedding would be the best thing I've seen about marriage in a long time.

 
   
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The first one actually isn't bad. The second one... well. It features Kevin Nash IIRC.

oh, and the technology in the suits for these films gave us the Dinosaurs tv show, so that's good.




DS9 is really cool. I watched it twice over the past few years. Good stuff.


I just watched Fateful Findings (2013).

It's a paranormal sci-fi romance thriller drama, written, directed, composed and edited by the same guy. He also plays the main character.

It features heavy themes of love, loss, spiritualism, addiction, lust, violence, book-tossing, deadlines, The Truth, conspiracies, and the creative process. I's been compared to The Room, and I get the comparisons. But I feel like this one's got at least two more layers to it, but I'm not sure if they're there. There is a LOT going on.

Somehow I'd love to hear what the ideas bedhind the script were, because if I wrote a film, it would look pretty much exactly the same. Which is why I don't write film scripts.

Watch It.

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If, when I get proper internet back I can find it on a streaming service I will.

Having now watched the first two Turtles movies? I remain largely impressed.

They’re most definitely far, far better than they needed to be. Sure, the second one isn’t as great (where is Casey Jones????) as the first. But against all odds, being live action attempts at a stupendously successful marketing juggernaut of its day…neither are remotely phoned in.

I was part of Turlemania the first time round. For a brief period, I was the most popular kid at school because I owned a (plastic) throwing star…which was promptly lost in a sandpit (possibly nicked off me, to be fair). I’d have queued up just because it was a Turtles movie.

But the effort put in, on what was still a pretty limited budget deserves respect.

On a “me right now with all my life experiences added to idiot child wonder”? They still absolutely hold up. As kid focussed Kung Fu/Chop Socky, they’re at least Above Par. Yes on my now UHD screen and Ps5 upscaling a DVD I can see the mould seams and joints on the suits - but so what? I’m pretty sure any wee boy in the modern day would still be absolutely hooked for their run time.

And again…..they had no need whatsoever to be as competently made as they were. We’d have bought any old crap.

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The second may not have had Casey Jones, but it did have Keno. Back in the day, I saw Ernie Reyes Jr as a trade-up.



And don’t forget Vanilla Ice.


Edit: Did you ever see The Last Dragon? Sounds like you would have enjoyed it.

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