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Any tips for geting friends into Battletech?

Really? Just show them the game, and point out some strong points of the system.

1. Doesn't require much to play. Minis aren't even necessary.

2. Rules aren't going to change every couple years.

3. Units you buy right now will still be good in 20 years. If they used to play, everything they had is still perfectly viable.

4. RPG elements. You can make it a very personalized game, and have character advancement and personality.

5. It is EASY. Sure, there is a big scary rulebook. But unlike most games, you can ignore 80%+ of it if you only play 'Mech vs. 'Mech. To-Hit numbers are easy to calculate, with just simple math.

H.B.M.C:

So, does Ironwind Metals have a license to produce the 'Unseen'? What does that mean for the 'Re-seen' that they produced lately. I found the latter much more 'Battletech-esque' than the Harmony Gold Macross and Votoms mechas.

Nurglitch wrote:HA! Answer steal!

So, does Ironwind Metals have a license to produce the 'Unseen'? What does that mean for the 'Re-seen' that they produced lately. I found the latter much more 'Battletech-esque' than the Harmony Gold Macross and Votoms mechas.

IWM does not YET have the license to produce the Unseen that we know of. The whole process has been kept pretty quiet to even the Demo Team.

The Reseen will stay around. Think of them as the 3060+ version of them. The Unseen were on the battlefield for the first few hundred years of 'Mech combat, and even in 3070+ they can still be found.

The Reseen are the designs of Vicore Industries to capitalize on those chassis and improve or refurbish them.

Problem 1 friend dosn't want to try it what do I do. Besiedes tieing him to a chair and forcing him to watch barney for 12 hours.

I suggest forcing him to watch Barney for 12 hours then whilst feeding him a mix of pure adrenalin and cocain for that entire time.

When he comes off the high, tell him that the only way to get back to normal is to play BTech with you. Then let him win.

dragonfire wrote:Problem 1 friend dosn't want to try it what do I do. Besiedes tieing him to a chair and forcing him to watch barney for 12 hours.

Make a deal. Tell him you will try something he wants to do if he will try Battletech.

You don't want to force someone into a recreational activity. That is a certain way to summon the fail whale.

Got my hands cheaply on Battlespace, the third edition rpg book and the third edition Battletech box for 20 euros from someone i know that no longer plays.
Apparently i now have a horde of 'unseen' LOL.

In any case, how good is Battlespace? And what's the opinion on the Mechwarrior RPG?

Thanks Mattlov, and if not

Darthvegeta800 wrote:Got my hands cheaply on Battlespace, the third edition rpg book and the third edition Battletech box for 20 euros from someone i know that no longer plays.
Apparently i now have a horde of 'unseen' LOL.

In any case, how good is Battlespace? And what's the opinion on the Mechwarrior RPG?

Battlespace is out of date. Total Warfare covers Fighter and DropShip combat. WarShip combat is covered in Strategic (or is it Interstellar?) Operations.

The Mechwarrior RPG is on the verge of becoming obsolete with the new version due out hopefully by the end of the year. Depending on the version it is either a D6 RPG or a D10 version.

I just received the "Tactical Operations" book and my brain is spinning with campaign ideas!

beefHeart wrote:I just received the "Tactical Operations" book and my brain is spinning with campaign ideas!

Yeah, there are just idiotic amounts of options in TacOps.

So besiedes heat I've got the basic's down, so besides total warfare what do you sugguset next for clans as most of my favorite mechs (Timber Wolf) for exampele are clans.

Pick up TRO: 3050 Update.

Thanks. One more thing can you tell me more about Clan Jade Falcon, Clan Ghost Bear and Clan and Clan Star Adder?

Check out http://www.sarna.net for any and all info on BT factions...

Thanks I did and the Star Adders are by far my favorite.

beefHeart wrote:I just received the "Tactical Operations" book and my brain is spinning with campaign ideas!

Campaigns? You should get a hold of Strategic Operations. That book is worth it for the full set of Repair, Rearm, Refit and Salvage rules - perfect for a campaign.

Try Max tech it is alot better than Tacops and Strategic Operations.I have a large number of the original FASA campaign and tech readouts.Try not to get involved with Dark Age or Jihad.IMO they do not even exist.

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:Try Max tech it is alot better than Tacops and Strategic Operations.

Umm... MaxTech is old, and virtually everything in it is updated and added to in TO and SO. How is it 'better'?

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:Try not to get involved with Dark Age or Jihad.IMO they do not even exist.

They do. The BTech universe is a universe that moves forward. It's been doing that since the 4th War, and it won't stop. Live with it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:Try Max tech it is alot better than Tacops and Strategic Operations.

Umm... MaxTech is old, and virtually everything in it is updated and added to in TO and SO. How is it 'better'?

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:Try not to get involved with Dark Age or Jihad.IMO they do not even exist.

They do. The BTech universe is a universe that moves forward. It's been doing that since the 4th War, and it won't stop. Live with it.

It stopped moving forward the moment they destroyed it with the Jihad sorry.The Jihad was a way to explain the clix game which failed and put out new models in that "age" of BT.Besides Dark Age is crap.Have not lost a game yet playing against the junk it has using good old 3050 tech.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:Try Max tech it is alot better than Tacops and Strategic Operations.

Umm... MaxTech is old, and virtually everything in it is updated and added to in TO and SO. How is it 'better'?

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:Try not to get involved with Dark Age or Jihad.IMO they do not even exist.

They do. The BTech universe is a universe that moves forward. It's been doing that since the 4th War, and it won't stop. Live with it.

Actually he doesn't. He can just game in pre-invasion and invasion times for instance.
I'm a big SW fan. But i hate the new novels, Force Unleashed and pretty much everything post Remnant era bar perhaps the Legacy comics. I ignore them. And i don't rp in those eras usually.
One games what one wants.

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:It stopped moving forward the moment they destroyed it with the Jihad sorry.

You sound like those grognards who go on about how the Clans ruined the game.

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:The Jihad was a way to explain the clix game...

It wasn't actually. The Jihad predated ClickTech.

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:...which failed...

Can't argue there. Weisman did alienate his fanbase.

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:and put out new models in that "age" of BT.

Not sure what you mean here. Please elaborate.

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:Besides Dark Age is crap.Have not lost a game yet playing against the junk it has using good old 3050 tech.

Well that's got little to do with Jihad or Dark Age-era 'Mechs and more to do with the players.

Hey, as far as I am concerned, the universe is still in the year 3058

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Octavius Widowmaker wrote:It stopped moving forward the moment they destroyed it with the Jihad sorry.

You sound like those grognards who go on about how the Clans ruined the game.

They did!

I'm teasing, but that's the beauty of BT. You can play any Era you want, like historicals! Panzers ruined wargaming so I'm only going to play Napoleonic!

skyth wrote:Hey, as far as I am concerned, the universe is still in the year 3058

Yeah, but the FedCom Civil War is such a great time for combat!

I'd say the universe kept moving. In Dark Ages you have claws as a new mech melee weapon, giant 'larger than 100 ton' three legged battlemechs, wings on mechs and all kinds of other new junk. Battle armor is much more common too.

Now it seems that military fusion engines got rare (so they could justify making you "enjoy" all the industrial mechs you get in the random packs) but technology doesn't appear to have stagnated too much.

Mattlov wrote:

skyth wrote:Hey, as far as I am concerned, the universe is still in the year 3058

Yeah, but the FedCom Civil War is such a great time for combat!

Maybe, but it's to the point that I don't recognize the mechs and there is all this new tech that I don't want to have to deal with...

New tech? Do you realise that from a weapon perspective virtually nothing has changed in BTech for years? The closest we got to a weapon revolution was the advent of the Snub, Light and Heavy PPCs.

Most of the 'new' tech remains optional/non-tourney legal, sitting in optional rulebooks.