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Nice washes!

More or less, i keep looking in to this because of the insane amount of money you throw at this project... It wouldent be so interesting with out all ForgWorld stuff. I like the fluff though.

@ Haonn - Lol thats GW for ya! Gryphonne Sepia and Devlan Mud are a godsend!

@ MrTau - Um..... thanks? lol sorry, not sure how to respond. Glad you like the fluff! And after attempting to start 40k 3 times and failing, I finally realized I have to go big or not at all. Just how I get things going I suppose.

Hope I can keep you interested and checking in! (Prefferably with the projects and conversions, not just the expensive tidbits haha)

AWESOME PAINT JAWB!

@ Begel Dverl - Glad you like it!

Feeling lazy tonight, so no pic of the Achilles. BUT, I took Friday off from work, so should get some progress made.


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UPDATE - After closer inspection of the test mini's in comparison to the finished Mongers, decided I did not put on a thick enough wash of badaab black initially.

Proceeded to wash on with a layer of black, and it looks a bit more spot on for what I wanted. Also cuts back on the sheen a tad. Will wash the rest tomorrow as well as the Achilles.

Perfect example of why testing your paint scheme multiple times is a necessity.


ALSO, some things that are in the works that you should keep an eye on the blogs for:

$100 or less - Quest for the Ultimate Hobby Toolbox
All or nothing - A noobs take on buying an Airbrush

WASHES TO TH E RESCUE!

Mayby i should clarify; without forgeworld stuff it would just be a custom chapter with some conversions and great fluff. Now it has a great feel and looks very unike down to the small deatails. Dont get me wrong, i am a fan of this blog.

@ Haonn - YESSIR!! Used to be afraid of washes, but after you use them they are an integral part of any toolbox. It's one of those things that no matter how much you use them, how many purposes you find them to serve, it is an eternal craft of learning and honing the skills. I have a LONG way to go haha, but what's the fun in being BA right off the bat?

@ MrTau - Lol thanks for the clarification! Sorry bout that.

I know just what you mean!

I love the Iron Mongers, you seem to be keeping FW in business with this army

Did you every get anywhere with the tube maker from here? http://www.masq-mini.com/index.php?sprache=2

Keep up the good work!!

tipios wrote:I love the Iron Mongers, you seem to be keeping FW in business with this army

Did you every get anywhere with the tube maker from here? http://www.masq-mini.com/index.php?sprache=2

Keep up the good work!!

Unfortunately, still haven't found someone fluent enough to read the German order form, or translation software that works. I REALLY want to order it, but just can't find the assist needed. Lol don't spose you could help?

I just whatched the video and it looks really cool! I'm gona look into it more and may order, will give you feedback soon.

tipios wrote:I just whatched the video and it looks really cool! I'm gona look into it more and may order, will give you feedback soon.

I feel like an idiot. They added (or I just now noticed) a button to change to english......

Gonna order it now....


....and just did!

THANKS FOR MENTIONING IT BUD!!

Holy crap. This project is awesome. I've read all the pages now, and I love not only the work on the minis themselves, but the fluff as well. Excellent job sir.

Joshh wrote:Holy crap. This project is awesome. I've read all the pages now, and I love not only the work on the minis themselves, but the fluff as well. Excellent job sir.

Glad you like it! Got a bunch of stuff to upload, but being lazy today as the weather has finally given us a break in the heat. Also, working on ideas for Counts as Daemonprince or uber sweet dread. Not sure where it will go at this point, but stay tuned!

Markillius08 wrote:

tipios wrote:I just whatched the video and it looks really cool! I'm gona look into it more and may order, will give you feedback soon.

I feel like an idiot. They added (or I just now noticed) a button to change to english......

Gonna order it now....


....and just did!

THANKS FOR MENTIONING IT BUD!!

Was just gona tell you how to order it, because I just did tooo!!

Well, this will be the last real update for the Mongers for a while, as the Grey Knight's have fallen GROSSLY behind all the imaginary schedules I had thought up haha.

So, to begin with, first pic is of the Achilles as is - only two coats of gryphonne sepia, no second coat of black. Need help deciding colors for weapons and details outside of the kommando khakki sections like on the test models.


It's not as smoothly done as the marines, but I like the look and think it will look even better with a little more tweaking, battle damage, and weathering added.





You can see details really well in standard lighting. Thinking the weapons will probably remain mainly black, possibly an adeptus battlegray drybrushed with boltgun. Any thoughts?


And......


THE SEARCH FOR THE ULTIMATE TOOLBOX!!!

Mission: To consolidate all my tools, bits, WIP's, and various tidbits that I always wish I had when I forget them into one place.


RULES:

1) Has to be a toolbox, can't be an extendable handle and wheel around box.
2) Has to be able to hold my stuff comfortably, but not have a lot of unnecessary space
3) Has to come in under $100 if someone were to start playing 40k or any wargame and need to build a kit from scratch.
4) Has to be secure - no wimpy handles, latches, or weak materials.
5) Has to come with or can fit multiple smaller compartmentalized bits boxes inside.

Additional Concerns:

* Possibly have option for a lock
* Preference for box with built in lid mounted bits box
* BLACK OR PLAIN COLORSCHEME - High Importance so that it can apply to just about any person - some people are color nazi's like me


So, I began my search by taking measure of what I already had, what I was getting, and what I might potentially get.

What I had...

1 x Toolbox (small and only held some basing supplies, glue, tape, and my portable kit (has snips, hobby knife, flat grip pliers, and wire cutters)
3 x Battleforce Boxes holding various NOS or POS bits
2 x NIB GK SS
1 x NIB GK TS
1 x GK Bits Box (approx 14'' L x 9.5'' W x 1.5'' H)
1 x Tradeable Bits Box ( bigger than GK box in all dimensions)

Various other things as well - chain, glues, rubberbands, paper clips, etc. The random office supplies that you always find a need or use for in the moddling world.

So, with that in mind, I started searching for the box via the interwebs.


My friend Skipphga da Devoura has a really nice kit which inspired this whole search, so I started looking around for Stanley boxes like his.

After several hours of looking around on Walmart, Amazon, Ebay, Home Depot, and various other storage specific sites, I found the Stanley 'FATMAX'.


It comes in 2 sizes - 23'' and 28''. Pro's of this box...

DIMENSIONS:

Length: 28 inches
Width: 12.60 inches
Height: 11.60 inches

a) Durable and well made.
b) Heavy duty metal clasps for the lid
c) States it has a 'waterproof seal'
d) Has an internal tray that covers '3/4' of box length

Despite all these sites having the box, Walmart, Home Depot, and Amazon had it cheapest. UNTIL I checked Lowes ($30 and had it in store).

Then, as luck would have it, while searching Lowes, I found this box:


Now, don't let the name fool you. It's the EXACT SAME as the FATMAX 28'' down to the material. Only difference is the nameplate and the color of the seals (orange rather than yellow).
I say luck, because I like the orange better than the yellow. Preferences lol.

Also, the lid has a built in groove for holding lumber that has a ruler printed into the material. Great for making terrain when you need to quickly measure something.


Then, as luck would also have it, I found these while trying to find the FATMAX.


These work PERFECT with the FATMAX. As you can see in the picture below, you can easily fit 5 of these right next to the tray in the box. Also fits my GK bit's box perfectly beside them under the tray.


Why I chose the StackOn 13:

#1 Reason) Works spot on with the FATMAX
#2) Compartments can be made smaller or larger with inserts
#3) Unlike OTHER boxes, it comes with ALL the inserts needed to make all the compartments
#4) Cost like $3.50 each


So... after a 30 min trip to Lowes, the Ultimate Toolbox was assembled for a grand total of:

28'' FATMAX Structural Foam Toolbox - 29.98
13 Compartment Storage Box - (5) 17.40

add tax....

TOTAL: $51.27


Since I already had all the tools needed, I didn't search for prices or anything else as $48.00 will get you snips, a hobby knife, glue, and a lot of other stuff at walmart or hobby lobby easily.

Here are a few configurations I tried with the box just to show you what all it can hold...







And this is what my box looks like now! Hope someone out there finds this useful. You're toolbox is important, and one of your most important tools to have... next to the ACTUAL tools haha. Having an organized and comprehensive toolbox helps. TRUST ME!




ALSO.... Found these 'cut to appropriate length' chains at Hobby Lobby. Got 4 sets of them for $6, and each is 60'' in length. WELL WORTH IT!

If you ant a dark metal look on those landraider guns, maybe try 50:50 of boltgun and chaos black, you can dry brush or paint it on, then drybrush boltgun.

And now you got me looking at tool boxes Thanks for showing how yours turned out, I've been wondering for a while what I needed!!! nice one

tipios wrote:If you ant a dark metal look on those landraider guns, maybe try 50:50 of boltgun and chaos black, you can dry brush or paint it on, then drybrush boltgun.

And now you got me looking at tool boxes Thanks for showing how yours turned out, I've been wondering for a while what I needed!!! nice one

Thanks for the suggestion. That might work really well. Specially with the metalic undertones I'm wanting. Nice call!

And glad I could inspire you to look at building a better toolbox. Far too many times I've had to lug a massive amount of items to and from my residence to the FLGS or my buddies houses, only to realize that I forgot something small that I didn't think I'd need. With a superior toolbox (by comparison to all initial attmepts haha) this problem can be finally eliminated. Seriously, had that thing open all day and never had to go through anything else to find what I needed or wonder where something had gotten tol.

GET ONE!!! Or find one that works for you, but DO IT!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOOO worth the time.

I wold like if the models were a little "cleaner", so mayby you should paint the wepons in a non-rusty mettal?

MrTau wrote:I wold like if the models were a little "cleaner", so maybe you should paint the wepons in a non-rusty mettal?

Yeah, the weapons will be a different color. They will be mainly (on the marines) Boltgun, with the grips and chainsaw bayonets different colored (chains will have black around them for grease and red for gore), but the primary color for the bolter is what's killing me.

I just can't find a complimentary color for the armor that doesn't look odd. I want it to be dark, like a dark blue or a dark grey. I was thinking adeptus battle-grey again, but it seems almost like it would just sink into the background without any real contrasting color. A darkened red is also an option, but I just don't see how I could tie that in to the rest of the army in any cohesive way. Biggest one right now that would probably be best would be to use a green. They will have bright green eyes, but having a darker green for the boltgun would help set that off I think.

Here are some concept art I'd been looking over. What do you think would look best? BIggest thing Is I'd like to keep boltgun in the scheme, or just keep it with metallic-painted parts on the guns.

I think that third one is a paintball marker, and my favorite of the bunch.

1-i wrote:I think that third one is a paintball marker, and my favorite of the bunch.

See, my only worry with red is that there's not really anything else tying it in to the rest of the paint scheme.

Your reasons for not liking the red is the oposite of why I do, unless Ive missed your total paint concept. The darker red I think will help highlight your metal paintjob and bring some wanted debth to the overall scheme. Im also keen on the blue for the same reasons.

1-i wrote:Your reasons for not liking the red is the oposite of why I do, unless Ive missed your total paint concept. The darker red I think will help highlight your metal paintjob and bring some wanted debth to the overall scheme. Im also keen on the blue for the same reasons.

See, I feel like any color i pic for the gun has to do that. It has to contrast with the color of the metal, but still has to have that darker, grunge feel that the metal has as well. I think Red works best like you suggest, because blue and green would kinda fade into the background. Black wouldn't do anything for it either. And straight boltgun washed black will be some of the highlighting and detailing on the marines as a whole, so a straight boltgun....boltgun would just be strange as well.

I believe you're right, red is the best color for the job. But I just wish I could tie it in SOMEHOW to the paint scheme. I just don't see other than possibly doing red eyes or something along those lines being able to add red. Maybe grenades? would those painted red look odd? What about the hip packs? Think those would look alright?

Rusty red grenades sounds like a good idea and really unless you add more bit pieces to your mongers I think that is your best option.

If it were me I would do the boltgun parts and g'nades red base coat then go with your normal metal washes. I would think that would do wonders for the total blend unless you use a bright red color for the base.

1-i wrote:Rusty red grenades sounds like a good idea and really unless you add more bit pieces to your mongers I think that is your best option.

If it were me I would do the boltgun parts and g'nades red base coat then go with your normal metal washes. I would think that would do wonders for the total blend unless you use a bright red color for the base.

Well, another option is to do basecoat in boltgun metal, then wash with badaab black and baal red until it gets really dark. Would have the same metallic style and tint as the armor. OR, I could basecoat in boltgun as usual, then just paint the main portions of the bolter in mechrite red (as it's the dullest yet richest of the GW reds, and still has great color - one of my favorite colors EVER), then wash that with badaab black.

I don't like the idea of basing it red, becuase i don't want it to bleed through the boltgun colored parts. Also, i'm not sure how that would affect the battle damage.

Well, another option is to do basecoat in boltgun metal, then wash with badaab black and baal red until it gets really dark.

That actually sounds like the best idea, that should really blend well with the washes on monger.

Got the mongers washed with black once more. Look MUCH better now.

Updated Titan's Legion as well, so I suggest checking it out!

Having seen the second-wash pics, I think a dark red would work really well.