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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 22:21:52
Subject: Re:ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 4.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Fighter Pilot
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I think the rust is overkill, it should be more minimal and multiple layers of orange and browns, not just dark flesh. Use scorched base, dry brush dark flesh, dry brush orange then a thin and I mean think wash of develan mud after that. Then another thin drybrush layer of orange with another thin wash of orange or vermin brown.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 22:58:30
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 4.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i like them... nice rusty and bloody bunch... would love to see them getting shot to bitz by my own^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 09:32:51
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 4.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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dsteingass wrote:Lookin good Hazz! How about some closer detail shots? Automatically Appended Next Post: I've been using this hi-tech, expensive rig here with decent results  Hmm nice I use something a lot like that, I put up pics later when I’m on my own PC. Arakasi wrote:Second some closer shots. It looks like a riot of colour at the moment. How are you going to do their bases? I think that will help define them as well. Thanks, man I'm going to try to get the bases done soon...well hopefully  And I'll try to get some more close ups done later. Reaper Man 2020 wrote:The pics are improving, just move them back onto an all white background as they are difficult to see on your cutting matt. I'll try to get some done later, and there only wip's mekbadzappa wrote:I think the rust is overkill, it should be more minimal and multiple layers of orange and browns, not just dark flesh. Use scorched base, dry brush dark flesh, dry brush orange then a thin and I mean think wash of develan mud after that. Then another thin drybrush layer of orange with another thin wash of orange or vermin brown. I do washes of babbad black and delvean mud on the metal then a 1:1 mix of scorched brown to fiery orange, then blood. But yes I going to try to add some more definition. Btw did you notice the soot on the PK and chansword orky things. Viktor von Domm wrote:i like them... nice rusty and bloody bunch... would love to see them getting shot to bitz by my own^^ Thanks man, However Im thinging of toneing down the blood a bit (I think its a bit too bright for orks but I don't want to loose that spot coulor  ) boyz: waaagh da humies are shooting us boss Boss: Lets get suk in there boyz waaagh Chopp choop ,las fire AKA every boyd dies yay!Every body wins!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 11:35:42
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 4.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Orks are coming along nicely HAZ, blood is a nice touch.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Orks are coming along nicely HAZ, blood is a nice touch. As Reaper suggests, better pics would just help us enjoy your work more and give better advice if you wanted it. I realize you might be at a technological ceiling but it's something to keep in mind for the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 12:18:23
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 4.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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I think they are fantastic, Haz. I love the rust, can't imagine an orc mob would be all into preventive maintenance. Also, the blood can never be too much, coated with it is not enough for orcs. Bloody mess, killing machines.
No match for CSM's, though. HAHA
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 13:38:47
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 4.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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I like them.....lots of variation!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 13:50:39
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 4.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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boyz: waaagh da humies are shooting us boss
Boss: Lets get suk in there boyz waaagh
Chopp choop ,las fire AKA every boyd dies yay!Every body wins!
in the 41st millenium there is only war... lol!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 15:32:30
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 4.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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From what I can see, they look really good HAZZER!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:04:43
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 4.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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Gitsplitta wrote:Orks are coming along nicely HAZ, blood is a nice touch. As Reaper suggests, better pics would just help us enjoy your work more and give better advice if you wanted it. I realize you might be at a technological ceiling but it's something to keep in mind for the future.
Will do gits man btw thanks for stopping by!
mxwllmdr wrote:I think they are fantastic, Haz. I love the rust, can't imagine an orc mob would be all into preventive maintenance. Also, the blood can never be too much, coated with it is not enough for orcs. Bloody mess, killing machines.
No match for CSM's, though. HAHA
Yea yea you just keep on making up excuses for my bad ass orks of bas ass ausemness for not thrashing you! LOL!  Oh btw thanks man!
HONAW wrote:I like them.....lots of variation!
Thanks man, just what I was trying to do!
Viktor von Domm wrote:boyz: waaagh da humies are shooting us boss
Boss: Lets get suk in there boyz waaagh
Chopp choop ,las fire AKA every boyd dies yay!Every body wins!
in the 41st millenium there is only war... lol!
LOL!  Vik you make my LOL!
Capitansolstice wrote:From what I can see, they look really good HAZZER!
Thanks man!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:08:15
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 4.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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HAZZER wrote:Will do gits man btw thanks for stopping by! 
I'm subbed HAZ, so I'm always here... just don't always comment if I think other folks have your back... which they usually do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:12:00
Subject: Re:ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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Right then, hi guys, Update (Well sort of) By popular demand here are some decent clear close ups of my orks and what I got for x-mas warhammer wise  .I've inculed a pic of ausslt marines because I feel that I have gone a bit xenos crazy so this should help balance the loyaity to the emporor  .Oh btw the white is where I'll be adding goff checkers. Note:  PIC HEAVY HAZZER
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:18:46
Subject: Re:ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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Just rembered this pic for dsteingass...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:20:22
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Nice haul, Hazzer.
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:21:54
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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Thx.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:23:13
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Try getting the lamp really close when you take the shots, shadows can be a bitch at times.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:25:21
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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God tell me about it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:26:13
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You're gonna love the brushes!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:27:23
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:31:51
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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In focus... much better. And never underestimate the power of a good brush.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:33:28
Subject: Re:ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hey, Hazzer, those orks are coming along rather nicely. I just wanted to toss in my two cents about your rust effect. Earlier someone (sorry I don't remember who) mentioned that you should add some orange to the scorched brown to work up layers for your rust. I thought I would provide a visual reference for you. This is an old WIP pic of a nurgle marine I did using that same rust effect. You can see where the layers are built up from brown to a brown/orange mix to almost a pure blazing orange. With some chainmail dotted in for added detail.
Feel free to take as much or as little from my advice as you please. I just thought the visual ref may help you out. It's not a hard technique to achieve you just need a small brush and a little patience.
Keep on going! Your minis (and pics) are looking better and better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:48:43
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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That does, in fact, look very good Moltar. I actually know nothing about painting but I think that your rust is better suited for the Orks, Hazzer. More of a "scrap metal found in junk pile" look versus the "10,000 year old been in use just not taken care of look".
Just from my experience working (for 22 years now) around tanks and large metal objects that see a lot of outdoor use, is that a certain amount of corrosion will occur that is dealt with, removed and prevented and a certain amount that is accepted and just cleaned off every now and then.
A fine patina of age, such as is expertly done on Moltar's Nurgle Marine, may not be found on Ork armour. A) Orks would make their armour out of anything and B) paint would be rare, if at all. Mass produced equipment, even 10,000 years old, would still have a machined and treated appearance that would change not only the type but severity of corrosion that would be found on it.
Your stuff is gold, Haz, keep it up. Please find a way to get bright clearer shots up close, though. They are getting better but I really want to get there and see the finer details. And you should go get some mini's that you don't care about so you can do a paint tut.
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:52:20
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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Gitsplitta wrote:In focus... much better. And never underestimate the power of a good brush. Thanks gits man! Moltar wrote:Hey, Hazzer, those orks are coming along rather nicely. I just wanted to toss in my two cents about your rust effect. Earlier someone (sorry I don't remember who) mentioned that you should add some orange to the scorched brown to work up layers for your rust. I thought I would provide a visual reference for you. This is an old WIP pic of a nurgle marine I did using that same rust effect. You can see where the layers are built up from brown to a brown/orange mix to almost a pure blazing orange. With some chainmail dotted in for added detail. Feel free to take as much or as little from my advice as you please. I just thought the visual ref may help you out. It's not a hard technique to achieve you just need a small brush and a little patience. Keep on going! Your minis (and pics) are looking better and better. Ok thanks, helps a lot I was also thinking of adding a turquoise like colour for weathering and painting lime scale? I was thinking of using hawk turquoise oh and that pics great.  For orks I use mitral silver for highlights and chainmail for SMs.I may need to to a tutorial when I have mastered the rust effect! (Oh im going to need spare time too). mxwllmdr wrote:That does, in fact, look very good Moltar. I actually know nothing about painting but I think that your rust is better suited for the Orks, Hazzer. More of a "scrap metal found in junk pile" look versus the "10,000 year old been in use just not taken care of look". Just from my experience working (for 22 years now) around tanks and large metal objects that see a lot of outdoor use, is that a certain amount of corrosion will occur that is dealt with, removed and prevented and a certain amount that is accepted and just cleaned off every now and then. A fine patina of age, such as is expertly done on Moltar's Nurgle Marine, may not be found on Ork armour. A) Orks would make their armour out of anything and B) paint would be rare, if at all. Mass produced equipment, even 10,000 years old, would still have a machined and treated appearance that would change not only the type but severity of corrosion that would be found on it. Your stuff is gold, Haz, keep it up. Please find a way to get bright clearer shots up close, though. They are getting better but I really want to get there and see the finer details. And you should go get some mini's that you don't care about so you can do a paint tut. Hoping to perhps do one on rust effects when I master it!And maybe one on NMM when I can do it with help of course from my eavy metal masterclass book!  Just noticed I've got 14 posts to got till 1000 posts may do a toutoral or two then to celebrate it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 17:50:37
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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See, now that the pics are clearer I can give some advice! Try putting a dot of black at the end of the barrel of the guns - or even better - start learning how to drill them out (maybe with an unpainted gun first...) It's never too early to start learning to drill those barrels!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 18:02:41
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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LOL!I currently don't own a drill but I am thinking of getting one!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 18:28:18
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You should purchase a pin vice right away! Essential tool!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 20:30:03
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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checkers on orks always looks classy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 21:49:29
Subject: Re:ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Much better pics, I would say though take a couple of each selection you are wanting to post so if the first one is out of focus you might get another that is in focus to use instead. Definitely get a pin vice, I have about eight, they are really useful primarily for drilling barrels but also for adding rivets and pinning models. I also sometimes drill into a model and paint it on the pin vice. Like this;
Keep up the good work Hazzer!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 22:42:16
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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dsteingass wrote:You should purchase a pin vice right away! Essential tool!
Should do!I think a family member has one hidden away somewhere!
Viktor von Domm wrote:checkers on orks always looks classy!
Thanks, Im thinkig of doing a mix of free hand on some shoulders and gun bits/ wepons and some use of transefers...
Reaper Man 2020 wrote:Much better pics, I would say though take a couple of each selection you are wanting to post so if the first one is out of focus you might get another that is in focus to use instead. Definitely get a pin vice, I have about eight, they are really useful primarily for drilling barrels but also for adding rivets and pinning models. I also sometimes drill into a model and paint it on the pin vice. Like this;
Keep up the good work Hazzer!
Thanks for the /idea man! I may consider using it!  (Well thats if I find a relatives one or buy one)!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 22:47:56
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Hey, I really like the look for those batch painted orks on page 7, really Orky!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/06 16:00:00
Subject: ultramarines and goffs armys and fuff-update 5.1.12- The rest of da lads are 95% done
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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Tortured-Robot wrote:Hey, I really like the look for those batch painted orks on page 7, really Orky!!! Hey thanks Tortured-Robot for stopping by, Yes those orks are pretty good if I say so myself!  I'm reather pleases with them but there not fully completed yet! but nearly done!
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