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Hmelrose
I have wanted to ask you about stripping tanks in simple green. I have a few tanks myself that need repainting, and have seen that you have some experience with it. How long did you leave them in the green? Did it cause any damage to the models? Any help you could give would be much appreciated

Worked on creating some 60mm bases out of cardboard and several layers/coats of PVA glue, I used dense cardboard and a sharpie as well as a regular plastic 60mm base from GW bases kit to trace out the circle. I cut out the circle and began layering PVA glue onto the cardboard. Then I used superglue to attach cork board and gravel to the base. Hopefully after another layer of glue from the Elmers Spray PVA glue and some coats of primer then paint these will be ready for the Heavy weapons teams to be attached.

leohart wrote:Awesome sauce on those bikers and everything else as well. I have found WYSIWYG works awesome against people who value WYSIWYG (like me). For others, not so much. Powerfist is the way to go (all the time). If you are getting power weapon for your sergents, go for powerfists. It deters their special characters from charging and he cannot be singled out and thus will last for as long as necessary.

Thank you! I actually sold those bikes to a guy for almost triple what I paid for them O.o I'm getting some cash and bitz in trade. This conversion is so simple and easy to do, I don't understand why people don't just do it themselves. I even found an easier way to do a similar conversion! http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=118757

I didn't know there were different rules for specific power weapons! I just put the power fist on the model cause I had that one extra from a bunch of bitz I had lying around.

I like the idea of a WYSIWYG Army, even though it means I will have many more models than I really need. Speaking of that, I need to start working out how to magnetize the arm slots on my Space Wolves. It shouldn't be that hard to drill a small hole into the torso after its glued and then insert some GS and then glue a magnet into place. I'd then use a small washer ( the kind used on tiny screws ) and glue that to the SW arm. Then I could have less models and more weapon options.

Mr. S Baldrick wrote:Hmelrose
I have wanted to ask you about stripping tanks in simple green. I have a few tanks myself that need repainting, and have seen that you have some experience with it. How long did you leave them in the green? Did it cause any damage to the models? Any help you could give would be much appreciated

Here is a nifty tutorial that someone on Dakka has already provided!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/WarOne%27s_Simple_Green_Stripping_Method

It is rather simple ( no pun intended ) You'll get some Simple green, a tupperware container or similar plastic container, pour it in, put the model in, wait a week ( at least I wait a week ) remove, scrub with brush.

I also have a pair of thick gloves I wear when scrubbing the models, this helps protect my hand from being torn up by the bristles and keeps the paint flecks/crap off of them. Simple Green will not harm plastics or metal models. Its going to take time and some elbow grease. So much so that you'll wish you had bought the models new.

I hope this helps!


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So much more work to get done on the Space Wolves, I wanted to just concentrate on the Kill Team sized force, but I got to messing with the bitz and well, here they are!



Can you imagine being hit in the head by a hammer from a guy on a speeding attack bike? O.O I'm working out how to magnetize the side car on the attack bike. That way I can either have a regular bike or add on the side car. I need to figure out how to magnetize the weapons on the side car as well.


Space Wolf Scout Sniper squad: You'll no doubt notice the use of Catachan legs, SW & Chaos Marauder heads with the SM Scout box set. I find this makes them unique and helps get me more models on the table as I can make 6 Scouts out of the SM Scout box rather than the set of 5 the box is set up to make. Why do they give you more heads, weapons, arms, torsos, but not enough legs to completely use the whole kit sprue? Now, I'm going to have to beg borrow and steal legs from other kits/sprues and friends. So with the 5 that come in the SW Battleforce box and these 6, I'll have 11 SW Scout models.


We'll start with close up of the big gun:


And now, the rest of the team:






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A Side view of the Swiftclaw bike with Hammer


Now for some Grey Hunters and some Wolf Guard kit bashed models as well as a Long Fang Conversion way down at the bottom!

The entire group! Well, most of them anyway. The SW Battleforce box doesn't come with a flamer weapon, so I had to appropriate one from the Catachan IG bits I had. On a side note the Catachan bitz and weapon sprues are better than the Cadian for conversions, they have a lot of loose weapons not attached to hands and I appreciate this detail very much! You'll see a Thunder Hammer / Storm Shield Wolf Guard model as well.


For some reason, the superglue would not set on this model, but here he is with Flamer at the ready!



With a little converting this models head could easily become a Ragnar Blackmane conversion






Wolf Guard model with Hammer & Shield:



Group shot:

Long Fang Conversion utilizing the Missile arm from the SM Scout sprue kit that I purchased

First off, I wanted an arm to hold a pewter weapon from the Reaper miniatures weapons accessory kits. I chose an unused arm from the SM Bike squad which is outstretch and has an open hand. The problem with this arm/hand is it is set up to hold handlebars and not a weapon. I used the thin blade from my jewelers saw to cut the arm just in front of the elbow, this will allow me to rotate the forearm and then drill & pin the hand into the appropriate position. Pics to follow:

Apologies for the blurry picture ( You can see my thought process here) :


I've already attached the SM Scout Missile arm to the SW model. I probably should have waited til I chose the offhand weapon, but its on now! This is all still a learning/design process. We'll have to see how it goes. You can see my weapon options as well:


After pinning and supergluing the arm has been attached and is ready for a weapon!



Polearm has been fitted to the slot, but not glued in place. Now that I see it I was thinking I could put a standard in place here as well. I still have the Chaos Marauder banners as well as a few Dwarf banners, The possibilities are exciting! Though I think handling a missile launcher and a standard might be a little awkward for even a SW.



Everyone piled up under the lamp, minus the models I had previously built. I need to get an army shot together, then prime and paint the kill team models.


Here is a preview of the next set of Space Wolves!




As always C&C ( Comments & Critiques ) suggestions, remarks, heretical statements.. all are welcome and will be summarily dealt with in accordance with the appropriate protocol.

Thanks for reading/following and for just plain being awesome!

mate you have oh so much to paint later on... i am the same...assembly is so much fun... but for me then later on all those assembled minis put quite a stress on me to paint them... and then when i am painting it soon gets boring... the assembly is my major love here.,..

Viktor von Domm wrote:mate you have oh so much to paint later on... i am the same...assembly is so much fun... but for me then later on all those assembled minis put quite a stress on me to paint them... and then when i am painting it soon gets boring... the assembly is my major love here.,..

Oh yeah, don't I know it! Between my Warmachine and my GW 40K models, I've got more than 300 to paint! 200 of which are tied up with the Mordian Iron Guard IG Force thats slowly getting done. I need something to put on the battlefield so I can play, which is why I've created the Space Wolf Kill Team force, I just went a little overboard with finishing out the bitz from the rest of the battleforce box set.

I love assembly and conversions. I also love painting and trying to figure out new techniques to paint. It is daunting to see all the models arrayed out on my hobby table waiting to be painted. I think I should put up all but 20 or 30 of the Mordian IG and paint those up. Once they're finished put them away and pull out 10 or so more, possibly while throwing in a Warmachine Cygnar model as well.

I can't even imagine how much more work will be ahead of me if I choose to build up the Space Wolf Force to something like 2000 pts. Lets see, right now I've got:

1 Lukas the Trickster Conversion: 140pts ( note this model could be a Wolf Guard w/ Plasma Pistol + Lightning Claws 43pts )
9 Grey Hunters Bolter & Chainsword = 135pts
1 Grey Hunter w/ Flamer = 15pts
1 Long Fang w/ Missile Launcher 25pts
4 Swift Claw Bikers (+1pwsword) 115pts - 6 more bikes enroute = 150pts = 265pts
1 Swift Claw Attack bike (+1Power Weapon Hammer) 30pts
5 SW Scouts w/ sniper rifles = 90pts
5 SW Scouts w/ boltgun = 75
1 SW Scout w/ Hvy Bolter = 20pts
SW Wolf Guard Pack (1w/ TH & SS = 68pts) + (1w/ Storm Bolter & Frost Axe = 41pts)
Total: 789pts ?

With a variety of models still left to build. :\

yeah... there are only two tragedies...not getting what one wants and getting what one wants^^

yep looks like a definte heap of work ahead^^

but on the plus side...you have so much variety around that bourn out syndrom form stupendous batch painting wont ever happen to you^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:mate you have oh so much to paint later on... i am the same...assembly is so much fun... but for me then later on all those assembled minis put quite a stress on me to paint them... and then when i am painting it soon gets boring... the assembly is my major love here.,..

Later on?! I've got to get it painted soon! That Kill Team League/Tournament is coming up soon!

yeah well^^

by the way... what scheme will you make them in? or have i missed that earlier on?

Viktor von Domm wrote:yeah well^^

by the way... what scheme will you make them in? or have i missed that earlier on?

For the Wolves? I'm still up in the air with that, I'm not too keen on the light blue traditional coloration, but I want it to be easily replicated and yet stand close. I was thinking of priming black, then adeptus grey and boltgun trim. Not sure. Still tossing ideas around.

Been messing with the space marine painter at http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/smp.php

But it doesn't really show the colors correctly.

somehow the B&C painter doens´t work atm with me... somehow my pc is not working properly...

but from what you said...scheme does sound nice!

Army painter for first coat, wash, relayered, details. Done. You can crank out 250 pts everyday like that.

Viktor von Domm wrote:somehow the B&C painter doens´t work atm with me... somehow my pc is not working properly...
but from what you said...scheme does sound nice!

I'm still working it out in my head, I want a grey-blue with coppery/tin shiny-ness to it, to go with the red/yellow accents. still thinking about it all.

leohart wrote:Army painter for first coat, wash, relayered, details. Done. You can crank out 250 pts everyday like that.

Dat, you're so helpful

Putting this here so I don't lose it:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-26139-11989_Terrain.html

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-23050-13418_Imperialistic%20Scenery.html

skalks stuff is pretty nice!

have you looked into dsteingass thread about necromunda terrain too?

been reading the past couple of days worth of your thread, and I must say, you're making some good progress! And on the issue of the attack bike side car, have you thought of putting some small magnets on the underside of the bike, to connect with the side car? I've been thinking about the same thing, since I too have an attack bike which I'd be able to use as a regular bike if the sitch calls for it, but, away from my main base of operations, have been unable to act upon this just yet

Show us some more Mordians! Kaesar II

Viktor von Domm wrote:skalks stuff is pretty nice! have you looked into dsteingass thread about necromunda terrain too?

I definitely need to take a look around for more terrain options for when I build my table. I want to do it custom and look good too.

Lord Kaesar II wrote:been reading the past couple of days worth of your thread, and I must say, you're making some good progress! And on the issue of the attack bike side car, have you thought of putting some small magnets on the underside of the bike, to connect with the side car? I've been thinking about the same thing, since I too have an attack bike which I'd be able to use as a regular bike if the sitch calls for it, but, away from my main base of operations, have been unable to act upon this just yet

Show us some more Mordians! Kaesar II

Thank you for stopping by and checking my work out! I'm a mad man, there are too many dang projects going on, but primarily I'm torn between the Mordians and the Space Wolves. I love them both. I need to finish this Kill Team sized force for the league/tournament which is coming up. I can't participate if I don't have painted models

I'm working out how to magnetize the side car on the attack bike. That way I can either have a regular bike or add on the side car. I have a set of small flat rectangular magnets that I'm either going to attach to the bottom of the bike or the top of the tab on the side car and then a small thin washer to the bottom of the bike or side car, it should be simple enough to do with some super glue. I've been debating cutting into the model to set the magnet flush with the frame, but I haven't gotten up the nerve to carve up the bike yet.



I need to figure out how to magnetize the weapons on the side car as well. I want to be able to switch between the Heavy Bolter and the Multi-melta easily. I don't want to destroy the guns by carving the front halves off and then drilling out the main part and magnetizing it that way, but that may be my only option.

You have been busy, so many space wolves in such a short time.

If I were magnetizing an attack bike to have two weapons I'd just buy another side cart from a bits store. That's cheating though and may even take more time. I'm new to magnetizing myself but I'm sure there is some easy way to do it. I'm sure you will find out. Good luck!

Flying Pooo wrote:You have been busy, so many space wolves in such a short time.

If I were magnetizing an attack bike to have two weapons I'd just buy another side cart from a bits store. That's cheating though and may even take more time. I'm new to magnetizing myself but I'm sure there is some easy way to do it. I'm sure you will find out. Good luck!

Thank you! Yes, I have been very busy with the assembly, not so much the painting! Which is what I need to get to next!

I think I just figured out how to magnetize the weapon. I was looking at the part of the weapon that clips to the bar and thats not where the magnet should go. The magnet or metal piece should go where the controls are between the gunners hands. I can either put a magnet there by drilling out the control handle or place a small bit of metal there and then drilling a hole in the bottom rear of the heavy bolter & multimelta and installing a small magnet there. This will allow the weapon to still clip onto the bar and be held on by the magnetic part in the handle.

Now I just need to figure out if I can actually make this happen!

You asked for more Mordian Iron Guard, here you go!























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Oh Yeah and these guys:




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Big day for priming models!

Psykers, Commissars and the Fenris IG with a couple of Mordian Iron Guard sneaking into the pic. So much to do and paint!


The often controversial Fenris IG / Planetary force or just plain Space wolf recruits/blood claw possibilities (though I'd need to do more conversion work to make them so). I might just wind up keeping them and building a sort of Traitor/Chaos Guard Army out of them at a later date. Right now, they're going to get primed and set aside in a case as I have too much going on with my Mordian Iron Guard and the Space Wolf Kill Team Project.








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My project table in the garage is just overflowing with miniatures to paint. I seriously need to kick this pig into high gear.



Working on the Space Wolf Kill Team force:


Magnets I am prone to using:

Painting a test miniature right now for the SW Kill Team, using Citadel Fenris Grey for the armor and tin bitz for the trim.

Now to write up how I magnetized the side car for the SM Attack Bike:

This is how the side car normally lines up on the bottom of the Attack bike. Pretty nifty, but we can try to do better!


We want our vehicles to be multipurpose and for that we use magnets and other doodads. The bottom of the bike has a conveniently centered mold marked circled on the bottom, which is where we will place the first magnet. Remember the inside of the bike is hollow so go slowly with the drill or other tool or else you're going to wind up filling a hole you just drilled.


You can see I used a 9/64th inch drill bit. Basically a size slightly larger than the magnet I'm going to insert into the model. You want the hole to be bigger so the magnet + glue + GS will fit snugly. I found that the plastic was soft enough that I could turn the drill bit by hand and still make my hole. You can also see the small washers I use looped onto a paperclip at the bottom of the image. I find that having a piece of metal there gets me around that pesky magnetic polarity issue. Though some models will need both magnets for the strength of the bond.


I drilled the hole, superglued the magnet and washers into place, waited for it to dry and tested the strength of the bond. It was at this time I noticed the washer was a bit larger than the plastic I glued it to, so I carve a bit of the plastic out of the bottom of the bike with a hobby knife and then it fit just fine. I also notice that the strength of the bond wasn't strong enough and the back of the bike sagged, so I lined up the side card and drilled a second hole and glued in a second magnet and washer.


Now to test alignment and strength:


Fits and looks good!


The view from the bottom:


Strength test! The bond holds!


Now to Prime & Paint!


I'm still working on how to magnetize the weapon on the side car. I still think a magnet in the end of the gun handle and a piece of metal on the marines control hand will work out best. Stay tuned!


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I don't sleep. So I've got a lot of time to work on my models, conversions and now.. finally some paint.

I didn't want the happy go lucky Space Wolves light blue. That color never said Wolves or fearsome to me. It comes off as too happy, too bright, very Spring season.

Not my idea of Fearsome, bestial, Wolves from a Frozen Ice World.

So here we go, color choices are key. Fenris Grey, Scab Red, Tin Bitz. The image also shows P3's Greycoat grey, which I used on the miniature to the left as I was testing out the grey/blue-grey I wanted for the armor color. I want to go dark with these guys, so I didn't like that grey over the white primer. I've been thinking I should have gone with a black primer, but there isn't much I can do about that now.










Far from complete color scheme, yet you can see my thought process and where I'm going with the dark grey-blue armor and Scab Red / Tin Bitz accents.

Let me know what you think!

That side car magnetization is awesome. Now I need to get my magnets for my Dreadnought.

The wolf scheme looks pretty good so far. I do like the original scheme though because although it looks to springy, it is a cold color (like their ice world). Do a full sample model so we can all chime in :-)

THUNK* did you hear that? That was my jaw dropping

leohart wrote:That side car magnetization is awesome. Now I need to get my magnets for my Dreadnought.

The wolf scheme looks pretty good so far. I do like the original scheme though because although it looks to springy, it is a cold color (like their ice world). Do a full sample model so we can all chime in :-)

Thank you! Magnetizing models is definitely the way to go! I need to start magnetizing all of these wolves arms and weapon combos, yet I hesitate at the prospect of the work ahead of me. I think all my future plastic wolves will be magnetized though.

The Space wolves blue is nice, yet its not for me.

While working I had washed down some adeptus grey and over the white primer it looks pretty nice as well. Tempted to do a test model in that scheme as well to see how it comes out, but then that would certainly mean snow bases.

I'll be working on a few models this afternoon, so we'll see how it goes! I heard John over at GW Tomball ( OJO7 ) started up his P&M Blog: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/421293.page Y'all should check it out and hit up his facebook page and 'Like' it. http://www.facebook.com/GWTomballCrossing

Capitansolstice wrote:THUNK* did you hear that? That was my jaw dropping

Would you care to elaborate sir?



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Instead of painting... I know I know.. I will get to it, I took pics of some of my other models and added them to my galleries:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-22658_Warmachine%3A%20Khador.html


http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-22657_Warmachine%3A%20Menoth.html





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ebay makes it really difficult to justify supporting a local game store when you can find deals like this: 6 SM bikes for $25.00 + Shipping for something like $30.00, which in store is a $90.00 + tax value.

This is the second time I've read through the thread all week, and I have to say I love what your doing with the old Mordians and giving them a new lease on life. I'm also a big fan of the conversions your doing with the Space Wolves. I look forward to seeing it all finished

orkboy232 wrote:This is the second time I've read through the thread all week, and I have to say I love what your doing with the old Mordians and giving them a new lease on life. I'm also a big fan of the conversions your doing with the Space Wolves. I look forward to seeing it all finished

Thank you! I really appreciate you stopping by and taking the time to write. I'm hoping to get back to the Mordians soon.

Stay tuned!


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Been working on the Wolves, primarily using a watered down Fenris Grey and on the shoulders is Scab Red.









I'm still working on the shoulders and will be progressing into the tin bitz colored accents. Not sure if I'm going to add any additional colors to the models yet.

What do you think? C&C is always welcome!

i like the scheme... that red and blue are working quite good together... tho i have to say that livery metal is way to shiny now for that scheme... darker...way darker one is needed...

and that is one hell of a nice price for those bikes...!

Viktor von Domm wrote:i like the scheme... that red and blue are working quite good together... tho i have to say that livery metal is way to shiny now for that scheme... darker...way darker one is needed...

and that is one hell of a nice price for those bikes...!

As Always I appreciate y'all taking the time to read and comment on my blog, You're awesome!

Yes, indeed the Scab Red and the Fenris Grey over the P3 white primer are coming together well. I'm going to have to assume by "livery metal" you mean the Tin Bitz color? These models are still in the process of being painted. I haven't added any washes to them, its all been a watered down base coat of each color. I will hit them with either a Badab Black or Devlan mud, I'm still debating that choice.

I have added Chaos Black, P3 Rucksack Tan and Citadel Chainmail colors as well as have worked on more of the Tin Bitz accents. I'll take some pics and upload them soon of each individual model.

Yes, the bike deal was too good to pass up, but as Leohart pointed out, they had a deal for the Ravenwing battleforce for about $66 and that could have been a better deal. I'm thinking of getting more bikes and making a bike list to compete with his bike list. I think it would be interesting and fun.

He's got all those dang land speeders though. haha.

Dude, you need bikes, grab them from me because now I have extras stuff new on sprues -_-.

Anyway, bike army is fun. We should get a game in some time this week. Especially now that my battlefoam has arrived. :-)

leohart wrote:Dude, you need bikes, grab them from me because now I have extras stuff new on sprues -_-.

Anyway, bike army is fun. We should get a game in some time this week. Especially now that my battlefoam has arrived. :-)

I may be able to do a game and I would be open to talking to you about those extra bikes. I'm also working on a terminator deal and a few other options.

Now I've uploaded a bunch of pics to my gallery, but I won't link/post them all.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-22471_Space%20Wolves.html











This is the most complete of the Space Wolves.

i meant to write silver...... and then i looked up what livery could mean...lol... it isn´t even that cruel of a mistake^^

the one running/falling over^^ wolf...does he have a silver/metal cape?

Viktor von Domm wrote:i meant to write silver...... and then i looked up what livery could mean...lol... it isn´t even that cruel of a mistake^^

the one running/falling over^^ wolf...does he have a silver/metal cape?

Heh, I'd only just started using some Citadel chainmail on the models last night. As for the cape/fur I was trying to get an washed down Adeptus grey fur look to it and didn't realize I still had the chainmail out til after I took the pic.