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If you look through the pattern of acquisistions by Weyland on that Timeline, everything seems to move towards either improving Biotech, or doing more Space Exploration... as if there is some final objective in mind all along..
Though guards may sleep and ships may lay at anchor, our foes know full well that big guns never tire.
I stand by my earlier theory that such an objective officially died with Weyland or with the merger and was rediscovered by individual executives. The first executive or cabal of executives to rediscover the true significance/potential of the (presumably failed) Prometheus mission conspired to risk little for much gain by placing Ash on board the Nostromo/conspiring with Dallas. But this resulted in the exact opposite result, a huge loss with no definitive gain, so the rediscovery was hastily covered up, terraforming began on LV-426, and Carter Burke rediscovered the issue, either from files about Ash's mission or about the Prometheus, half a century later.
My theory is built around Burke seemingly working on his own or within a limited group within W-Y. My theory is undermined by the fact that no one working on Hadley's Hope seemed to notice the distress signal that drew the attention of the Nostromo. My further conclusion is that Burke's group either managed to cover up the signal (this seems unlikely; the colony administrators don't even seem to know about it) or that the signal itself was not actually from the Derelict but a decoy programmed into MU-TH-R by whoever got Ash transferred onto the Nostromo.
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Some thoughts - Frankenstein was subtitled The Modern Prometheus, and created artificial life.
Prometheus, in later Greek mythology, saved humankind from being destroyed by Zeus.
Prometheus has strong associations with liver regeneration, which is a little bit like shape-changing, which has been ginted at during the movie...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Manchu, the geographical evidence and breathable atmosphere in Prometheus don't rule out the possibility of it being LV426, but I think it makes it unlikely. I've also seen suppositions that the two ships are not even the same ship - they are just same or very similar models. As evidence, there is a collision between Prometheus and the Space Croiassant in the trailer, but you can see no evidence of this collision in Alien, apparently (at least according to some fairly thorough researchers on another site...)
Automatically Appended Next Post: "A King has his reign... and then he dies" is the opening line of the trailer. I am willing to bet someone is saying that to or about Peter Weyland.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I don't think it is the Space Jockey ship that is leaving to go to Earth, as I think they are on the Space Jockey ship when they say that line - that means it is either the rest of Promotheus' crew, some aliens, or another faction of humans all together...
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Though guards may sleep and ships may lay at anchor, our foes know full well that big guns never tire.
There is at least one shot of someone inside a holosuite in the trailer, IMO, and holosuite's are referred to on the website...
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Manchu wrote:What? There's a huge hole in the Derelict. That's how Newt's parents get into it.
They get in through a tiny crack in the side! I am talking about a major impact point with the Promoetheus, that you see in the trailer. Assuming it is the croissant and Prometheus that collide, and not the Prometheus and the Saucer... which actually seems more likely...
Automatically Appended Next Post: In the room with the cannisters that is reminiscent of the eggs, the thing Shaw is looking up at is a human face...
Automatically Appended Next Post: I've seen two versions of the bit where David is pulling out what looks like an Alien Egg. In one it is black, with luminous green at the tops. In the other it is almost white. CGI shenanigans going on there, but why?
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Though guards may sleep and ships may lay at anchor, our foes know full well that big guns never tire.
Manchu wrote:My theory is undermined by the fact that no one working on Hadley's Hope seemed to notice the distress signal that drew the attention of the Nostromo. My further conclusion is that Burke's group either managed to cover up the signal (this seems unlikely; the colony administrators don't even seem to know about it) or that the signal itself was not actually from the Derelict but a decoy programmed into MU-TH-R by whoever got Ash transferred onto the Nostromo.
It could be that when they broke the laser plane on the derelict it shut off the signal as well.
"A King has his reign... and then he dies"
This also could refer to whatever aliens were on Earth and helped manking, seeded the planet, ect dieing off at some point in the future, thus leaving remnants behind. Being more advanced doesn't necessarily mean you don't die off or can't be wiped out.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
sebster wrote:Think of it this way, a film like this is going to find it's core audience among boy 18-35, give or take. Out of all the boy 18-35 that you know, how many wouldn't recognise that room?
I'm not quite 18 yet (nine days to go ) and I'd recognise it, but thats only because my uncle lent me his director's cuts of Alien and Aliens So I only actually watched them both for the first time last wednesday...
Still, I'd recognise them
Ahtman wrote:It could be that when they broke the laser plane on the derelict it shut off the signal as well.
I considered that but why would the laser plane shut off a warning signal (or a distress signal)? You'd have to assume that the signal was in fact a lure, which dovetails nicely with some of what we see in the Prometheus trailer ("Not a map; an invitation" at first and then "we were so wrong"). The lure explanation also makes sense in light of the theory that the Derelict is a "bomber" of biological weapons -- if you can't make it to the target, have the target come to you.
But you are right in that it's a good explanation as to why Hadley's Hope might not have detected the signal.
gorgon wrote:Almost 80% on Rotten Tomatoes. Perhaps it needed more androids for this crowd?
Have you actually seen it?
Anyhow, that reflects the basic flaw in Rotten Tomatoes, that films which are well made but ultimately unremarkable will score pass grades from most critics, resulting in a higher pass/fail ration than more ambitious films that are more likely to divide crowds. I mean, watching the movie or just reading the reviews will reinforce what I'm saying... these are all comments from reviewers who gave the film a passing score;
"Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe create interesting, rounded characters out of potential clichés."
"American Gangster an epic, true crime drama, although not entirely original in its premise"
"An entertaining romp through familiar cop-and-crim cat-and-mousery, bolstered by strong star turns from Washington and Crowe. Still, it has neither the intelligence nor the grip to jump from the merely good to the truly great."
"Ridley Scott's gangster flick aims high and mostly measures up"
"It feels familiar, even Washington's performance of real-life Frank Lucas feels like something we've seen before."
And again, that's from the people who gave it positive scores. It really is just a slickly made, enjoyable but entirely forgettable film. And that's Scott's best film in about 8 years (since Blackhawk Down).
All I'm saying is that based on Scott's recent reputation there's a decent chance we're going to get something that looks great but is ultimately just kind of forgettable. And that'd be a damn shame.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
sebster wrote:Think of it this way, a film like this is going to find it's core audience among boy 18-35, give or take. Out of all the boy 18-35 that you know, how many wouldn't recognise that room?
I'm not quite 18 yet (nine days to go ) and I'd recognise it, but thats only because my uncle lent me his director's cuts of Alien and Aliens So I only actually watched them both for the first time last wednesday...
Still, I'd recognise them
Lol I'm not 18 yet, but the Aliens movies are some of my favorite movies. Though I think this will find it's audience among basically anyone who likes science fiction. But I'm not watching any trailers until this movie comes out, so I have no clue what people here are talking about.
May the the blessings of His Grace the Emperor tumble down upon you like a golden fog. (Only a VERY select few will get this reference. And it's not from 40k. )
imark789 wrote:Rotten Tomatoes is slightly flawed- they are always so hard on comedies.
There's no 'they', it's a metastudy.
Have you considered that maybe you might be just a bit too generous to comedies?
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
When I said they, I meant the critics they draw from. And yeah, it's possible, but when they criticize comedies for being brainless and stupid but go on to praise action movies like Captain America, I'm left a little confused. They're both popcorn entertainment, one is funny and one is action, but the comedies get criticized for not being better.
But I don't want to derail this thread.
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In the words of the late, great Colonel Sanders: "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."
They are parasites that looks like Tentacles
They leave parasites into the body
Human gets infected.
One of the human turns on the team.
They roast + burn him as he pounces the team.
The space Jockey is a integrated pilot suit + chair, the content of the suit is tiny human sized.
The guy in the space jockey = the infected human.
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