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Tannhauser42 wrote: But was it really the Legion responsible for all that law and order, or was it Caesar? I don't believe the Legion would be able to truly survive the loss of Caesar, and would end up tearing itself apart within a couple years.
You'd be right. Ulysses said that the Legion only exists because of Caesar's will, iirc.
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
Uh, I never knew much about the Legion because I agro-ed them immediately. I always killed the first bunch we meet at the town they destroyed (can't recall the name) because they were evil SoBs. That was always what I thought of the Legion: Evil SoBs that must be destroyed on sight.
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill
Yeah, that's really how they appear, as they are an invading force. They were supposed to be a lot more fleshed out, but all their territory (everything east of the river) had to be cut for time constraints. Which can be said of a lot of things in NV, as they were not given nearly enough time. The amount of cut content in the files is incredible. both freeside and the strip were supposed to be coherent world-spaces, but we're very buggy and crashed a lot because of the hardware they had to work with (the consoles of the time were not good). They even had stuff like pick-pockets in freeside that was fully functional, but they disabled due to bugs, as they pretty much no QA resorces (beth was too busy with skyrim to really try).
Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
Yep, and then they got shafted for it because the metacritic score was 0,1 too low (which you can attribute to these bugs etc) which meant they didn't get their bonus.
TheDraconicLord wrote: Uh, I never knew much about the Legion because I agro-ed them immediately. I always killed the first bunch we meet at the town they destroyed (can't recall the name) because they were evil SoBs. That was always what I thought of the Legion: Evil SoBs that must be destroyed on sight.
Ah, good old Vulpes Inculta, he's an excellent target for Terrifying Presence: "I'm going to wear your head like you wear that dog's."
Yeah, that's really how they appear, as they are an invading force. They were supposed to be a lot more fleshed out, but all their territory (everything east of the river) had to be cut for time constraints. Which can be said of a lot of things in NV, as they were not given nearly enough time. The amount of cut content in the files is incredible. both freeside and the strip were supposed to be coherent world-spaces, but we're very buggy and crashed a lot because of the hardware they had to work with (the consoles of the time were not good). They even had stuff like pick-pockets in freeside that was fully functional, but they disabled due to bugs, as they pretty much no QA resorces (beth was too busy with skyrim to really try).
No, Nipton. Primm is where you find ED-E, and its before Nipton.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
Hmm just realized how weird it is that you can have a companion only (from what i can tell) days or weeks after your spouses death and child kidnapping. not to mention all the trauma they go through.
Also win the game by playing a female named Sarah Connor as you wander the wasteland searching for your son that was taken by robots.
It is, considering it's a relativly simply way to increse the ammunition when compared to the combat shotgun, but that can be said of a lot of the missing weapons in 4.
Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
I immediately regret befriending Strong - that guy never shuts up.
Running around with Cait currently, who's probably the coolest follower I've met so far, although Deacon is pretty boss too.
Anyone else having zero moral dilemmas when it comes down to choosing who to side with? I mean, so far, aside from the Minutemen, every side is a pile of dicks in one way or another - which I guess I have to say is pretty good writing on the part of Bethesda.
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Anyone else having zero moral dilemmas when it comes down to choosing who to side with? I mean, so far, aside from the Minutemen, every side is a pile of dicks in one way or another - which I guess I have to say is pretty good writing on the part of Bethesda.
Interesting. Personally, I want to join the Rail Road only because of personal reasons: I love the idea of "free thinking" androids/robots in our world, so, I really want to help the guys that help them but what I've been reading in this thread about them, scares me
Hell, Legion was my love in Mass Effect too. I just love them <3
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill
Anyone else having zero moral dilemmas when it comes down to choosing who to side with? I mean, so far, aside from the Minutemen, every side is a pile of dicks in one way or another - which I guess I have to say is pretty good writing on the part of Bethesda.
Interesting. Personally, I want to join the Rail Road only because of personal reasons: I love the idea of "free thinking" androids/robots in our world, so, I really want to help the guys that help them but what I've been reading in this thread about them, scares me
Hell, Legion was my love in Mass Effect too. I just love them <3
There's a reason other factions refer to the railroad as Toaster lovers.
Also, Frankenberry, I wouldn't call that good writing, lazy is more apt.
After that put a point in Rooted and a point in Moving Target as those are how you survive more than .2 seconds.
Then level up your Melee and Unarmed damage
Put a point in Pain Train as soon as possible as that's EXTREMELY useful. It does a shocking amount of damage, lets you charge right through a crowd that's trying to trap you, stuns for an eternity etc.
Then get things like Blacksmith / Armorer etc
Blitz is also good for letting you gap close in Vats as you can seriously teleport like 50 feet with it and get sneak criticals. That + Ninja is a fantastic combo
At some point you will want to pump some points into Endurance and get Adamantium Skeleton, Ghoulsih, Cannibal, Toughness etc. But those can wait until you have the core perks like Rooted and Pain Train.
It's absolutely ridiculous how much damage you will do.
The strategy is to charge right into battle and slam into the target then hit it with a power attack as you come to a stop. It will 1 shot 99% of the enemies in the game instantly.
On Very Hard and Survival it will bring Legendary Super Mutant Butchers and Death Claws to half health with only 3 points in the melee / unarmed stat and only 1 point in Rooted and Pain Train. With more points in those I'd probably one shot everything. Regular Super Mutants get one shot, and Skirmishers survive with one hit left but are staggered and usually disarmed.
Nothing really does damage to you besides guys with Fat Man launchers blowing you away. Melee and Unarmed are hilariously OP yet again, every time I use guns I just get mad and run in and one shot them with a single melee or unarmed attack because my bullets barely chip their health off.
For anyone wanting to feel like a walking wall of death, try this. I spawned a Deathclaw for the lulz at level 20 and beat it to death in about 4 hits and took less than a tenth of my health bar as damage on Very Hard.
Once you get more points in Pain Train, Rooted, Moving Target, Your damage skills, Toughness etc, you will be completely unkillable and and utterly annihilate anything that moves.
The only downside is that you won't put points into int early game if you are using Idiot Savant. Idiot Savant seems to level up as fast if not faster than 10 int does according to most tests, and it procs all the time when you have 1 int. But you won't have things like Hacker or Science.
You can swap the 5 luck out and go with some int, but you will suffer early game for it and level a whole lot slower. If you want the int skills I would say pick them up later on after you have most of your build completed.
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There are also some on top of the fort right in the south east of the map (the one you have to go through for the BoS mission, where you fly over the top machine-gunning the Behemoth). There are a couple of old guns on top of the fort with some canon balls there.
I'm now enemies with the BoS.
In other news I seem to have quite a lot of T-60b armour pieces with 2mm holes in the helmet....
If the thought of something makes me giggle for longer than 15 seconds, I am to assume that I am not allowed to do it. item 87, skippys list
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And the reward for the most useless Legendary gun goes to: Ghoul Slayer's Fat Man. 50% more damage to Ghouls! If there is a Ghoul at ANY level that survives 642pts of ballistic damage, then an extra 321pts isn't going matter. I just need to bend over and accept our new undead overlords.
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