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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 01:33:14
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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I nominate the Deff Dredd. It's $50 and provides a pathetic BS2 with a maximum range of 24". It's got decent potential in CC. At least it does fill an entire heavy support slot.
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PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.
Elena Ceausescu says: Look, and that they are calling genocide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 01:40:07
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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Oh, this one is easy. Gotta be Ogryn. $20 a peice, or $60 for a minimum unit, $200 for a max. No ranged shooting, no power weapons, low initiative, vulnerable to
S8 attacks, and while they have a decent leadership they get no bonuses or re-rolls. One of the few units in the game that isn't good even at what it's best at (fighting lightly armored units without S8 attacks).
At least the Deff Dread enjoys AV12 and can be bought as a troops choice if you have a Big Mek. It's also only 85pts with double Big shootas. I'd rather have one of those than 3 Ogryn with a bonehead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 03:03:01
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Killer Klaivex
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Chaos Dreads. a $95 unit that is totally unpredictable and dies too fast.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 03:10:26
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Wraithguard.
BYE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 07:13:42
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Chaos Spawn.
I have no idea how much they cost, but they're so useless that it's irrelevant.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 14:19:29
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Pariahs are $12 each. Probably not the worst unit for the money, but they're definitely bad and not cheap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 14:45:57
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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terminators.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 14:50:56
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Sslimey Sslyth
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I dunno about terminators. They're expensive, but at least they are somewhat useful on the tabletop.
I kinda lean towards Ogryn, too, as they are hopelessly useless. They'd be overpriced at $5 per model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 15:23:34
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Grotz, obviously. Expensive for their points, and you need a lot of them. Roll on the plastic ones!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 16:10:57
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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The Reaver Titan obviously. Over $1K, and 90% of the games I've seen with one were giant team games consisting of a couple adults (of various sometimes even young ages), and a bunch of screaming kids. Quick way to ruin the gaming experience for everyone at the next table too.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 16:19:39
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Thats hardly the fault of the model or the rules now, is it?
Thats the plebs using it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 16:23:43
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Metal daemon troops models. 18 dollars for five.
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Do you remember that time that thing happened?
This is a bad thread and you should all feel bad |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 16:28:57
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Thats hardly the fault of the model or the rules now, is it?
Thats the plebs using it.
Well, Partly. Partly sure, its kids being kids. But the rules and points costs for Apocalypse tend to cause games with people I otherwise enjoy playing against to devolve into almost-controlled chaos.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 16:32:56
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Hate to sound confrontational, but that kind of is part of the point of Apocalypse, just silly fire fights for all to enjoy.
Keep getting tempted by a Reaver. I can afford it, but....can I build it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 16:52:13
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I must second the choice of Ogryn. They are just awful
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 16:55:45
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Confessor Of Sins
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Penitent Engines anyone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 17:58:19
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!
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I'd like to nominate Sisters Repentia... though Ogryns are very hard to beat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 18:08:29
Subject: Re:nominations: worst unit for the $
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Longmeadow MA 25+ Trade Rep
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Stikkbommas
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"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness. ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 18:14:53
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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There are no Stikkbommas any more!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 18:19:09
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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The Rogue Trader era Dreadnaughts. I'd rather paint a Mr Potato Head.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 18:23:31
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Longmeadow MA 25+ Trade Rep
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:There are no Stikkbommas any more!
Depends on what LGS you go to....
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"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness. ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 18:37:02
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Squats?
In terms of dollar cost to effectiveness.. anything from the Squats range should qualify...
-Porkuslime
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2+2=5 for sufficiently large values of 2.
Order of St Ursula (Sisters of Battle): W-2, L-1, T-1
Get of Freki (Space Wolves): W-3, L-1, T-1
Hive Fleet Portentosa (Nids/Stealers): W-6, L-4, T-0
Omega Marines (vanilla Space Marine): W-1, L-6, T-2
Waagh Magshak (Orks): W-4, L-0, T-1
A.V.P.D.W.: W-0, L-2, T-0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 18:48:49
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:There are no Stikkbommas any more!
Stikkbombs + normal boyz = Stikkbommas. They might not have an official "entry" but they are definitely still in the 'dex.
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The age of man is over; the time of the Ork has come. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 19:27:23
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
Atlanta
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Chaos Spawn.
I have no idea how much they cost, but they're so useless that it's irrelevant.
They are considerably better in Fantasy than 40k and it is a combined kit so I'd have to go with Forgeworld's Tau Manta.
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Penetrating so many secrets, we cease to believe in the unknowable. But there it sits nevertheless, calmly licking its chops.
* H. L. Mencken, in Minority Report (1956)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 20:16:40
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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VC's Blood Knights....75 bucks for 5 guys???
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Cry Fenris, and let slip the Wolves of Russ!
-Erik Shadowfang
Space Wolves (Shadowfang's Great Company)
Tau (Aun'burn sept)
Dark Elves
Saints of Revelation (The Whole Flin-flarn Chapter) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 21:22:54
Subject: Re:nominations: worst unit for the $
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker
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Being an Eldar player I would have to say wraithguard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 21:28:55
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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VC's Blood Knights aren't anywhere close. You've got the same $75 for 5 guys in most blister pack mounted units... i.e. Bretonian Mounted Yeomen.
My money's on Ripper Bolgrot or Morg'N'Thorg. $22 for a blister for one model that you can very very very rarely use as it's almost impossible to be able to afford a star player on your team.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 21:34:51
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Eldramesha wrote:Orkeosaurus wrote:Chaos Spawn.
I have no idea how much they cost, but they're so useless that it's irrelevant.
They are considerably better in Fantasy than 40k and it is a combined kit so I'd have to go with Forgeworld's Tau Manta.
Gah! Stupid Fantasy!
I didn't even think of that. How about Aun'Va?
I sure as hell hope he's not in fantasy. They already have one type of super-important, senile creature who sits on a floating chair. There would be crowding issues.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 21:38:56
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Wraithguard.
BYE
yeah,
I can definitely agree with that.. £8/35pts a model! 12" range guns... 1 attack in close combat...
I have thirty I can tell you for a fact there are better choices in the eldar codex....
Panic...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/11/13 21:39:38
Subject: nominations: worst unit for the $
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm seconding Wraithguard: expensive both in points and $$, but effective.
I'll also vote for Pariahs. At $12 per model and a minimum of 4 models to field a broken unit they're simply not worth it. I think anyone who plays (or plays against) Necrons would agree.
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