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Hey Blood reaper, just because someone has different opinion from you doesn't mean you should lump them all together as one huge group of "White Knights".

There is a school of moderation, that is trying to see between the lines on the finecast issue. Ifalna's example is a bad example of finecast, however you cannot make sweeping statements on the basis of some examples. You don't change the Law completely because someone breaks it, moderation is the key to everything in life. No doubt people will start sweeping statements based on numbers on QC or bad-casts, but no one has the complete figures of numbers of miniatures made, numbers sold, numbers returned. You cannot have 100% perfection in any industry, it should be reduced however without figures you cannot make any objective, quantative analysis. So any conclusion is based on conjecture or personal bias based on experience, not based on the facts. Facts are all that counts.

Your statement is radicalising, it is partisan and encourages people to take a binary stance on an issue. The real world is much more moderate, and seeing the world in Black and White is very much a childlike quality.

I got my Forgeworld event-only Skinwolf today. It's spin-cast. A replacement is already on the way - that can probably tell you what you need to know about it. 3 weeks wait for the first one, at least 2 (I'm told) for the replacement. Interestingly enough there's definitely a talc release agent on it, along with the tempura-esque surface flash in lots of places.

You would think an event-only model would be relatively short run. so the QC should be good. Apparently this is not the case. More examples of FW produced spin cast (assuming they are produced in smaller numbers or with more care than Finecast products) are needed to evaluate whether the problems are systemic to the process itself (irrespective of production quota) or are directly related to problems introduced by scaling the process up for larger production runs.

The only way I figure they have still not started properly checking models before selling them is that the majority of people getting terrible quality casts are not actually returning them or complaining, and GW is basically getting away with not having to bother paying people to perform QC.

It worries me how many new painters would have shrugged at that Goblin and tried to use it..

I agree. We have to bear in mind that we (anyone with a bit of experience painting / modelling) are not the target audience for this crap.

Ifalna wrote:Contacted GW for a replacement, waiting to hear back. It's not that the shot is bleaching out the detail, it's that there is pretty much no detail left to take a shot of.

Have you tried fixing it with warm water?

Chowderhead wrote:Did he buy online?

Most, if not all stores, allow you to open to package to check.

So Fontaine probably bought online, a general No-No when it comes to Finecast.

This. Or did you buy from an independent retailer who has a poor selection and actually BOUGHT that from GW and it's a pain in the ass for them to return it for credit?

Listen, the finecast have issues....some models in particular aren't great, other ones are near perfect every time. It should be better, its DEFINATELY better then it was when they first came out.

If you want to buy something plastic at a 20% discount at some ghetto independent who isn't going to stand behind what's in the box, that's on you. Reality is that Warhammer isn't a hobby for the poor, it's HELLA expensive..and the right way to do things is to go to a GW store and buy the stuff. All of the employees at GW will allow you to break your box/blister open right there and look at it...if it's not cool, get another, if that's not cool...here's a refund. If you don't live next to a GW, order it online from them....if it's not cool, call customer service and they SEND YOU A BRAND NEW ONE w/o requiring a return.

No, everything GW does isn't golden and it's pricey, BUT what they lack in perfection they often make up for in effort and willingness to help you. GW wants you to be happy and yes...buy more...but ultimately, be happy. Joe's Hobby Shack and Boba Stand wants you to buy what's on their shelf and go away.....

buy direct so you can get the benefit of the thing that GW IS best at, customer service.

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:If you want to buy something plastic at a 20% discount at some ghetto independent who isn't going to stand behind what's in the box, that's on you. Reality is that Warhammer isn't a hobby for the poor, it's HELLA expensive..and the right way to do things is to go to a GW store and buy the stuff. All of the employees at GW will allow you to break your box/blister open right there and look at it...if it's not cool, get another, if that's not cool...here's a refund. If you don't live next to a GW, order it online from them....if it's not cool, call customer service and they SEND YOU A BRAND NEW ONE w/o requiring a return.

There's no place that's more 'right' to buy them than any other, regardless of any discount, either from a GW or from an independent. Independent stores made this hobby long before GW had more than a single shop.

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:If you want to buy something plastic at a 20% discount at some ghetto independent who isn't going to stand behind what's in the box, that's on you. Reality is that Warhammer isn't a hobby for the poor, it's HELLA expensive..and the right way to do things is to go to a GW store and buy the stuff.

Problem is that a LOT of people don't have an actual GW store anywhere near them. Independents or web orders are about all they have.

winterdyne wrote:I got my Forgeworld event-only Skinwolf today. It's spin-cast. A replacement is already on the way - that can probably tell you what you need to know about it. 3 weeks wait for the first one, at least 2 (I'm told) for the replacement. Interestingly enough there's definitely a talc release agent on it, along with the tempura-esque surface flash in lots of places.

What? I thought they used vacuum chambers for their stuff. If they're spincasting resin it's a major step backward. Can anyone confirm this or is winderdyne (hopefully) mistaken?

Howard A Treesong wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:If you want to buy something plastic at a 20% discount at some ghetto independent who isn't going to stand behind what's in the box, that's on you. Reality is that Warhammer isn't a hobby for the poor, it's HELLA expensive..and the right way to do things is to go to a GW store and buy the stuff. All of the employees at GW will allow you to break your box/blister open right there and look at it...if it's not cool, get another, if that's not cool...here's a refund. If you don't live next to a GW, order it online from them....if it's not cool, call customer service and they SEND YOU A BRAND NEW ONE w/o requiring a return.

There's no place that's more 'right' to buy them than any other, regardless of any discount, either from a GW or from an independent. Independent stores made this hobby long before GW had more than a single shop.

Independent retailers 'make" nothing, they resell other people's ideas and products as a business. It is more 'right', IMO, to buy from a GW store...because they have the ability to swap out with a larger inventory and give you a refund on the spot. At least if you going to buy finecast or something potentially dodgy


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Breotan wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:If you want to buy something plastic at a 20% discount at some ghetto independent who isn't going to stand behind what's in the box, that's on you. Reality is that Warhammer isn't a hobby for the poor, it's HELLA expensive..and the right way to do things is to go to a GW store and buy the stuff.

Problem is that a LOT of people don't have an actual GW store anywhere near them. Independents or web orders are about all they have.

yeah...that sucks. Also sucks they raised the free shipping thing, I think that was a big fail on their part.

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:Listen, the finecast have issues....some models in particular aren't great, other ones are near perfect every time. It should be better, its DEFINATELY better then it was when they first came out.

What makes you think things are getting better? Because I don't see that at all.

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:If you want to buy something plastic at a 20% discount at some ghetto independent who isn't going to stand behind what's in the box, that's on you. Reality is that Warhammer isn't a hobby for the poor, it's HELLA expensive..and the right way to do things is to go to a GW store and buy the stuff. All of the employees at GW will allow you to break your box/blister open right there and look at it...if it's not cool, get another, if that's not cool...here's a refund. If you don't live next to a GW, order it online from them....if it's not cool, call customer service and they SEND YOU A BRAND NEW ONE w/o requiring a return.

There's no place that's more 'right' to buy them than any other, regardless of any discount, either from a GW or from an independent. Independent stores made this hobby long before GW had more than a single shop.

Independent retailers 'make" nothing, they resell other people's ideas and products as a business.

That's not quite the point, without independent retailers there wouldn't be a hobby beyond mail order out the back of catalogues. How do you think any of this got popular before GW massively expanded their number of shops in the mid 90s? There are many reasons to buy from independents, one of them being that they support a wider product base than simply GW.

Independents are bound by the same trading laws as anyone else, they have to offer refunds/replacements.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:If you want to buy something plastic at a 20% discount at some ghetto independent who isn't going to stand behind what's in the box, that's on you. Reality is that Warhammer isn't a hobby for the poor, it's HELLA expensive..and the right way to do things is to go to a GW store and buy the stuff. All of the employees at GW will allow you to break your box/blister open right there and look at it...if it's not cool, get another, if that's not cool...here's a refund. If you don't live next to a GW, order it online from them....if it's not cool, call customer service and they SEND YOU A BRAND NEW ONE w/o requiring a return.

There's no place that's more 'right' to buy them than any other, regardless of any discount, either from a GW or from an independent. Independent stores made this hobby long before GW had more than a single shop.

Independent retailers 'make" nothing, they resell other people's ideas and products as a business.

That's not quite the point, without independent retailers there wouldn't be a hobby beyond mail order out the back of catalogues. How do you think any of this got popular before GW massively expanded their number of shops in the mid 90s? There are many reasons to buy from independents, one of them being that they support a wider product base than simply GW.

Independents are bound by the same trading laws as anyone else, they have to offer refunds/replacements.

All this plus.

I live no where near a GW store. my FLGS is all we have, its where we can all play and get together. Could I order online? Sure. Could I order from Warstore and save money? Sure. I would loose the place that I play and the people I play against.....

Please don't belittle the independent game store, they do more for the hobby than GW does.

helium42 wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:Listen, the finecast have issues....some models in particular aren't great, other ones are near perfect every time. It should be better, its DEFINATELY better then it was when they first came out.

What makes you think things are getting better? Because I don't see that at all.

because I bought 3 when they first came out and 2 were terrible and I just got a refund after getting replacements....I just bought 2 more new ones from my local GW and they were awesome, didn't even have to use green stuff on them. That and the folks I play and hobby with all agree that it's gotten better, there are just certain mini's that still always suck, the new ones...in my (our) experience have less pops and missing stuff.


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Howard A Treesong wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:If you want to buy something plastic at a 20% discount at some ghetto independent who isn't going to stand behind what's in the box, that's on you. Reality is that Warhammer isn't a hobby for the poor, it's HELLA expensive..and the right way to do things is to go to a GW store and buy the stuff. All of the employees at GW will allow you to break your box/blister open right there and look at it...if it's not cool, get another, if that's not cool...here's a refund. If you don't live next to a GW, order it online from them....if it's not cool, call customer service and they SEND YOU A BRAND NEW ONE w/o requiring a return.

There's no place that's more 'right' to buy them than any other, regardless of any discount, either from a GW or from an independent. Independent stores made this hobby long before GW had more than a single shop.

Independent retailers 'make" nothing, they resell other people's ideas and products as a business.

That's not quite the point, without independent retailers there wouldn't be a hobby beyond mail order out the back of catalogues. How do you think any of this got popular before GW massively expanded their number of shops in the mid 90s? There are many reasons to buy from independents, one of them being that they support a wider product base than simply GW.

Independents are bound by the same trading laws as anyone else, they have to offer refunds/replacements.

I can't argue that if you dig things like D&D or Infinity that local game stores are the spot and yes...they kjept the hobby healthy before GW had stores. Now that GW has stores though, it's just my opinion that they need to be supported....they have created a ton of fluff and put alot of effort into actually Making the hobby. Yes, they often have bad ideas...and they have become greedy to an extent....but it's like saying you'd rather buy a TOOL tshirt from target because they have a bigger selection of Tshirts vs. buying a TOOL tshirt at a concert. One supports a retailer who just buys and resells whatever, the other support the source of the creativity. Not to belittle game shops, I spend just as much at my Local Gaming center as I do at GW...I buy all of my glue, basing material, non-GW paint, brushes and tons of bits there and they are nice enough, but when I want to buy a mini...I support the creativity of GW by going to the store and buying expensive ass plastic/resin. Just my thing.

I'm not a GW fanboy by any means, they do alot of things wrong...but they do alot of things that are pretty cool...and, in the end, they DO things vs. resell things....it means something to me and I support them and want them to stay healthy to keep creating....I know my view isn't shared by everybody. Seems like alot of people spend more time complaining about GW then working on lists, gaming or painting.....I prefer to be positive. Just MHO

Look your sentiment might be appealing; your logic is flawed. Essentially you are against all forms of retail. Retail itself is expensive (very expensive) and most manufacturers don't retail their own goods like GW do because it is prohibitively expensive (infact this is a huge millstone around GW's neck because it does not make anywhere near enough money to justify the ridiculous cost of high street retailing!). Retailers however buy the stock from manufacturers at a lower level and then look for an approximate 35% Margin on top. To say that you aren't entitled to sell it because they didn't make it would mean the entire system of capitalism would fall apart, manufacturers do not have the infrastructure to bring their wares to markets, country or worldwide. This is the function that Walmart et al, do actually do. To get ride of 3rd party retail would cause many manufacturers to go insolvent and disappear. Marketing and Retail are highly specialised industries and are massively expensive.

Ifalna wrote:

Is it a Chaos Marine?

At least you got a nice hunk of mold as compensation.

Breotan wrote:

winterdyne wrote:I got my Forgeworld event-only Skinwolf today. It's spin-cast. A replacement is already on the way - that can probably tell you what you need to know about it. 3 weeks wait for the first one, at least 2 (I'm told) for the replacement. Interestingly enough there's definitely a talc release agent on it, along with the tempura-esque surface flash in lots of places.

What? I thought they used vacuum chambers for their stuff. If they're spincasting resin it's a major step backward. Can anyone confirm this or is winderdyne (hopefully) mistaken?

I can't tell you if it is spin-cast or vacuum-cast, but it is on a sprue. I've inspected one of the two I ordered, and can't see any of the usually Finecast flaws, though there is quite a bit of flash.

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:

helium42 wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:Listen, the finecast have issues....some models in particular aren't great, other ones are near perfect every time. It should be better, its DEFINATELY better then it was when they first came out.

What makes you think things are getting better? Because I don't see that at all.

because I bought 3 when they first came out and 2 were terrible and I just got a refund after getting replacements....I just bought 2 more new ones from my local GW and they were awesome, didn't even have to use green stuff on them. That and the folks I play and hobby with all agree that it's gotten better, there are just certain mini's that still always suck, the new ones...in my (our) experience have less pops and missing stuff.


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Howard A Treesong wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:If you want to buy something plastic at a 20% discount at some ghetto independent who isn't going to stand behind what's in the box, that's on you. Reality is that Warhammer isn't a hobby for the poor, it's HELLA expensive..and the right way to do things is to go to a GW store and buy the stuff. All of the employees at GW will allow you to break your box/blister open right there and look at it...if it's not cool, get another, if that's not cool...here's a refund. If you don't live next to a GW, order it online from them....if it's not cool, call customer service and they SEND YOU A BRAND NEW ONE w/o requiring a return.

There's no place that's more 'right' to buy them than any other, regardless of any discount, either from a GW or from an independent. Independent stores made this hobby long before GW had more than a single shop.

Independent retailers 'make" nothing, they resell other people's ideas and products as a business.

That's not quite the point, without independent retailers there wouldn't be a hobby beyond mail order out the back of catalogues. How do you think any of this got popular before GW massively expanded their number of shops in the mid 90s? There are many reasons to buy from independents, one of them being that they support a wider product base than simply GW.

Independents are bound by the same trading laws as anyone else, they have to offer refunds/replacements.

I can't argue that if you dig things like D&D or Infinity that local game stores are the spot and yes...they kjept the hobby healthy before GW had stores. Now that GW has stores though, it's just my opinion that they need to be supported....they have created a ton of fluff and put alot of effort into actually Making the hobby. Yes, they often have bad ideas...and they have become greedy to an extent....but it's like saying you'd rather buy a TOOL tshirt from target because they have a bigger selection of Tshirts vs. buying a TOOL tshirt at a concert. One supports a retailer who just buys and resells whatever, the other support the source of the creativity. Not to belittle game shops, I spend just as much at my Local Gaming center as I do at GW...I buy all of my glue, basing material, non-GW paint, brushes and tons of bits there and they are nice enough, but when I want to buy a mini...I support the creativity of GW by going to the store and buying expensive ass plastic/resin. Just my thing.

I'm not a GW fanboy by any means, they do alot of things wrong...but they do alot of things that are pretty cool...and, in the end, they DO things vs. resell things....it means something to me and I support them and want them to stay healthy to keep creating....I know my view isn't shared by everybody. Seems like alot of people spend more time complaining about GW then working on lists, gaming or painting.....I prefer to be positive. Just MHO

hmmm. NO. i think i will just buy it off ebay for half the price. maybe if GW didnt mark their gak up 200% i would consider it. the stores are just for little kids with rich parents who dont know any better. something that's 50 bucks direct from GW is 35 on ebay, how does that work? actually 50 is for the USA, in my region they would charge SIXTY for it. 60 or 35? that's almost double. and you want people to buy from the store? GWs greed is what has and always will drive people away.

The ONLY reason to support a GW store is if they are the only place locally to play. If there was another game store so close to me with gaming space, I'd never set foot in the GW store.

Aerethan wrote:The ONLY reason to support a GW store is if they are the only place locally to play. If there was another game store so close to me with gaming space, I'd never set foot in the GW store.

Yeah the only places near me are Comic Quest and the GW, and Comic Quest doesn't really have tables.

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Aerethan wrote:The ONLY reason to support a GW store is if they are the only place locally to play. If there was another game store so close to me with gaming space, I'd never set foot in the GW store.

Yeah the only places near me are Comic Quest and the GW, and Comic Quest doesn't really have tables.

Don't paint all GW stores as bad-I've been to 3: all have been AMAZING! I try to stop whenever there is one in the town I stop at for work (usually not so lucky). I've found myself loving GW stores-the Memphis bunker and the GW in Kent, WA are both great, the third sadly closed years ago. The managers have all been great, friendly guys. I won't cast bad words on a GW store until I HAVE a bad experience. Hasn't happened yet.

On the finecast thing, I've had a bunch of borked metal models, and I hated cleaning lines/flash. I've had to spend far less time prepping finecast models, and I was really against them at first. I shop at a store an hour away from me all the time and I finally found my first bad finecast mini at their store-too much flash that would destroy detail by removing. I let the guy at the counter know, done deal. Other issues have been minor-crotch bubbles are about all, with the exception of my 25th-that was hideous. I wanted it for a conversion, so I complained til I got perfect casts of the parts I wanted. The helmet is a lost cause, but I didn't need it anyway. So far my view on finecast is abou 75% positive: not high enough, to be sure, but I am a converter at heart, and that goes a long way to making me prefer it over metal. And I'm not a WK, I'm just a guy who loves his plastic-crack.

I love my GW... *sniff*

Well, take this for what it is worth. Where Valdsimpaler and I are, there has been Comic Quest for like 25 years. They used to have gaming tables but since they are in a smaller space now they don't. They do however carry the entire line of GW products on top of carrying PP and damn near every D&D book ever made.

3 years ago, GW opened up a store almost literally down the street from Comic Quest(like 4 miles away, long street). So GW could have cared less that Comic Quest had been faithfully and successfully selling their products in the area for decades. GW saw a chance to steal sales directly away from CQ and didn't hesitate to do so(I should also mention that this GW store is directly across the street from a high school).

So for that reason alone, feth GW as a company. I love their games, I love their models, but I absolutely hate their business model and practices. So sure, I'll play in their store as it's the only option until I have my own table built, but I only buy small things there like paint(before the new range which I won't use). I go out of my way to give GW as little money as possible while still enjoying the games.

Breotan wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:If you want to buy something plastic at a 20% discount at some ghetto independent who isn't going to stand behind what's in the box, that's on you. Reality is that Warhammer isn't a hobby for the poor, it's HELLA expensive..and the right way to do things is to go to a GW store and buy the stuff.

Problem is that a LOT of people don't have an actual GW store anywhere near them. Independents or web orders are about all they have.

winterdyne wrote:I got my Forgeworld event-only Skinwolf today. It's spin-cast. A replacement is already on the way - that can probably tell you what you need to know about it. 3 weeks wait for the first one, at least 2 (I'm told) for the replacement. Interestingly enough there's definitely a talc release agent on it, along with the tempura-esque surface flash in lots of places.

What? I thought they used vacuum chambers for their stuff. If they're spincasting resin it's a major step backward. Can anyone confirm this or is winderdyne (hopefully) mistaken?

Winterdyne posted some info way back on page 68 regarding this.

Aerethan wrote:Well, take this for what it is worth. Where Valdsimpaler and I are, there has been Comic Quest for like 25 years. They used to have gaming tables but since they are in a smaller space now they don't. They do however carry the entire line of GW products on top of carrying PP and damn near every D&D book ever made.

3 years ago, GW opened up a store almost literally down the street from Comic Quest(like 4 miles away, long street). So GW could have cared less that Comic Quest had been faithfully and successfully selling their products in the area for decades. GW saw a chance to steal sales directly away from CQ and didn't hesitate to do so(I should also mention that this GW store is directly across the street from a high school).

So for that reason alone, feth GW as a company. I love their games, I love their models, but I absolutely hate their business model and practices. So sure, I'll play in their store as it's the only option until I have my own table built, but I only buy small things there like paint(before the new range which I won't use). I go out of my way to give GW as little money as possible while still enjoying the games.

Now that makes sense. In my area their isn't any real competition, and, well, the staff at my local GW are really friendly.

Ifalna wrote:



Contacted GW for a replacement, waiting to hear back. It's not that the shot is bleaching out the detail, it's that there is pretty much no detail left to take a shot of.

Did you try fixing it with some official GW liquid greenstuff before calling customer service? Almost was able to type that out without giggling... That looks more appropriately "modelled" to be what comes out the back end of the squig after digesting rather than what goes on top.

Dysartes wrote:

Breotan wrote:

winterdyne wrote:I got my Forgeworld event-only Skinwolf today. It's spin-cast. A replacement is already on the way - that can probably tell you what you need to know about it. 3 weeks wait for the first one, at least 2 (I'm told) for the replacement. Interestingly enough there's definitely a talc release agent on it, along with the tempura-esque surface flash in lots of places.

What? I thought they used vacuum chambers for their stuff. If they're spincasting resin it's a major step backward. Can anyone confirm this or is winderdyne (hopefully) mistaken?

I can't tell you if it is spin-cast or vacuum-cast, but it is on a sprue. I've inspected one of the two I ordered, and can't see any of the usually Finecast flaws, though there is quite a bit of flash.

I just got some forgeworld stuff in yesterday. This order had Eldar, Space Marines, and Chaos Dwarves in it, so drawn from a wide range. Everything was swarming with flash. I'm going to literally spend hours cleaning it all up.

Aerethan wrote:Well, take this for what it is worth. Where Valdsimpaler and I are, there has been Comic Quest for like 25 years. They used to have gaming tables but since they are in a smaller space now they don't. They do however carry the entire line of GW products on top of carrying PP and damn near every D&D book ever made.

3 years ago, GW opened up a store almost literally down the street from Comic Quest(like 4 miles away, long street). So GW could have cared less that Comic Quest had been faithfully and successfully selling their products in the area for decades. GW saw a chance to steal sales directly away from CQ and didn't hesitate to do so(I should also mention that this GW store is directly across the street from a high school).

So for that reason alone, feth GW as a company. I love their games, I love their models, but I absolutely hate their business model and practices. So sure, I'll play in their store as it's the only option until I have my own table built, but I only buy small things there like paint(before the new range which I won't use). I go out of my way to give GW as little money as possible while still enjoying the games.

It's entirely possible that they chose the location because it's across from the High School, and the fact that it's near the LGS store is a pure coincidence. My experience with GW retail is that they don't really pay any attention (for good or ill) to the LGS's, that's all handled by the Trade Sales folks and they rarely interface.

Games Workshop have a relatively common practice of opening a store where a LGS has had good sales of their product(s).

Can we please stay on topic?

This thread is to highlight flaws you've found on your personal Finecast kits. If you have a problem with one of your models, please do post it. If you feel the flaw might not be readily visible, please do make a post explaining what the flaw is as well. Some people are not familiar with every single GW kit and what, to you, is an issue you recognize from experience with the same model in metal might not be immediately visible to everyone else.

whitedragon wrote:
It's entirely possible that they chose the location because it's across from the High School, and the fact that it's near the LGS store is a pure coincidence. My experience with GW retail is that they don't really pay any attention (for good or ill) to the LGS's, that's all handled by the Trade Sales folks and they rarely interface.

And my experience in two separate states where they only had a single store in one state and zero in the other is that they purposely open up in very close proximity to successful stores. In both cases (separated by over 800 miles so no single regional manager was doing this), GW opened up a store less than 5 minutes down the street in the same suburb of a major metro area as an existing and popular full stocked store. There have been threads on the matter in the past and the sheer number of "pure coincidences" posted by dakkites instead pointed out a fairly obvious historical trend.