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New preview of the Forge World Astra Militaurm Index: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/19/forge-world-index-astra-militarum-preview/



I absolutely love the Death Riders. T4, S4 Steed with 2 attacks and a Feel No Pain vs small arms!

Death rider looks interesting, I really need to get started on putting my DKoK stuff together, though I wonder how the artillery in that list will fare. At least earthshakers are 2D6 pick highest for dmg instead of what normal large blast templates got translated to.

MoD_Legion wrote:
Death rider looks interesting, I really need to get started on putting my DKoK stuff together, though I wonder how the artillery in that list will fare. At least earthshakers are 2D6 pick highest for dmg instead of what normal large blast templates got translated to.

The Heavy Artillery will most likely be cheaper Basilisks with crew, but can't move at all. It can only fire with crew nearby, the crew can only be chosen if they are the closest visible unit, if all crew are slain the model is useless. Bit like the Rapier in the Chaos Index.

Field Artillery probably the same but less wounds/toughness. Small blasts are usually a D3-dice from what I've seen.

Nice to see the Malcador come in as Heavy Support rather than the LoW it's listed as on the store.

Might need to pick one up for my Cult.

Hoping the other variants have Grinding Advance like the Russ does.

Death Riders not having one use only lances is ok.

According to Only War each rider is issued with 2 lances and I doubt they'll survive for a second charge.

 NivlacSupreme wrote:
Death Riders not having one use only lances is ok.

According to Only War each rider is issued with 2 lances and I doubt they'll survive for a second charge.

Normal Rough Riders can re-use theirs as well. I think GW wanted to do away with most one-shot weapons.

Soooo... anyone else notice Cult of Sacrifice doesn't have actual rules?

Good ol' FW!

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Soooo... anyone else notice Cult of Sacrifice doesn't have actual rules?

Good ol' FW!

Looks like a sub faction / Regiment wide ability so will be in the section at the start of that Regiments entry - like Act of Faith or Shield of Faith - personally if there is room would prefer it on the data-card as well.

Following consistency, that would have a page number (ex: ATSKNF is written ability, no colon, parenthetical page).

 Enginseer Kalashnikov wrote:
Was the Porphyrion Knight's datasheet leaked yet?

Please PM me with any more requests.

The Hellforged Deredeo has rules for a Hellfire Veil but isn't actually allowed to have one, so that's neat.

skarsol wrote:
The Hellforged Deredeo has rules for a Hellfire Veil but isn't actually allowed to have one, so that's neat.

Yeah - all the 8th books, including the GW ones, look like they need another round of proof-reading / editing.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Soooo... anyone else notice Cult of Sacrifice doesn't have actual rules?

Good ol' FW!

Looks like a sub faction / Regiment wide ability so will be in the section at the start of that Regiments entry - like Act of Faith or Shield of Faith - personally if there is room would prefer it on the data-card as well.

It might also have been removed from the sheet before the posted it. The guys at Facebook said they couldn't reveal everything yet.

Slow again

So, Macro eh?

Does double Wounds against Bulding and Titanic keyword. Which is nice.

But, as my book is at home awaiting liberation of its packaging...does anyone reckon that doubling extends to bonus damage, such as Mortal Wounds inflicted by a Belicosa Volcano Cannon rolling a 6 to wound?

 Verviedi wrote:

 Enginseer Kalashnikov wrote:
Was the Porphyrion Knight's datasheet leaked yet?

Spoiler:

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Please PM me with any more requests.

The Magma has had a small nerf against units of 10 and up, before you should be hitting 5-7 units with the BS5 and a reroll. Against armour it is much better as you'll get multiple hits now and all with 6 damage. I'm a fan of the 2d3 as it pushes the average hit to a 4 over a d6. The ironstorm is way down from 30k, d6 hits now vs. a 7" blast template, I can't see me ever taking that over the Helios.

It's good to see that now even a horse eclipses humanity's greatest defenders in close combat.

So since I don't see any other text....it looks like the only way to get a Contemptor in with my Rubrics is to lose a CP and put it in it's own detachment? The initial page mentions an appendix, which seems like it has been omitted from the leaks?

 Kirasu wrote:
It's good to see that now even a horse eclipses humanity's greatest defenders in close combat.

To be fair, it's a mighty angry (and chemically altered, specially trained) horse. The normal ones are only 1 attack with S3.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Rider#Krieg_Steed

Yes, I know the wiki isn't fully reliable but the text corresponds pretty well to source material.

Daedalus81 wrote:
So since I don't see any other text....it looks like the only way to get a Contemptor in with my Rubrics is to lose a CP and put it in it's own detachment? The initial page mentions an appendix, which seems like it has been omitted from the leaks?

Why couldn't you put it in the same detatchment as your Rubrics? Everything will have the keyword Chaos. The bit about the appendix is just so you know their points/wargear costs.

Yup, space marines aren't angry or trained. It's still a horse tho. Ive already pretty much replaced all my marines with scions due to the imperium faction being the most important keyword.

I understand it's a very rare and expensive model.
But this is where it starts.
Just give it more wounds if you want more resilience. I don't get the need the create exceptions to every rule you make. Layers of saves lead to layers of damage systems. It's pointless.

 Mayk0l wrote:
I understand it's a very rare and expensive model.
But this is where it starts.
Just give it more wounds if you want more resilience. I don't get the need the create exceptions to every rule you make. Layers of saves lead to layers of damage systems. It's pointless.

So what you're saying is that a "special" invulnerable save that can save mortal wounds is somehow the even thinner end of the wedge than all the abilities that already exist which effectively add a second save that also works on mortal wounds?
Just seems like an odd position to take to me.

 Gordon Shumway wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
So since I don't see any other text....it looks like the only way to get a Contemptor in with my Rubrics is to lose a CP and put it in it's own detachment? The initial page mentions an appendix, which seems like it has been omitted from the leaks?

Why couldn't you put it in the same detatchment as your Rubrics? Everything will have the keyword Chaos. The bit about the appendix is just so you know their points/wargear costs.

In the index is says the units to the right are the only ones eligible to get the Thousand Sons faction so the Contemptor is technically not able to get that faction.. Without a full Thousand Sons detachment the Rubrics would not be troops.

Daedalus81 wrote:

 Gordon Shumway wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
So since I don't see any other text....it looks like the only way to get a Contemptor in with my Rubrics is to lose a CP and put it in it's own detachment? The initial page mentions an appendix, which seems like it has been omitted from the leaks?

Why couldn't you put it in the same detatchment as your Rubrics? Everything will have the keyword Chaos. The bit about the appendix is just so you know their points/wargear costs.

In the index is says the units to the right are the only ones eligible to get the Thousand Sons faction so the Contemptor is technically not able to get that faction.. Without a full Thousand Sons detachment the Rubrics would not be troops.

Incorrect. The Datasheet that makes Rubrics Troops has no requirements external to it. The only difference between it and the Elite datasheet is that it mandates they be Thousand Sons.

Yup, and nothing is stopping you from labeling them TS in a vanilla CSM detatchment, so they can be troops. Really, way too many people are seeing restrictions on Death Guard and Thousand sons that just aren't there.

Oh hey, the Chaos Decimator is Titanic now (with 8 wounds)! I wonder if they're going to sell a bigger model?!

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
Yup, and nothing is stopping you from labeling them TS in a vanilla CSM detatchment, so they can be troops. Really, way too many people are seeing restrictions on Death Guard and Thousand sons that just aren't there.

Oh, I see. So I can have Rubrics that are 'Yellow Duck' legion and those are elites. Otherwise I pick the datasheet that specifies them as 'Thousand Sons' (or pick it) and they're troops. Cool - thanks guys!

Not seeing it but may have missed it, any Tyranid leaks? Just curious what the Heirophant and Harridan have become due to their size.

Nothing yet. The Xenos and Guard indexes aren't out until friday, unfortunately.