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Is it just me, or are the silly real fender mounts the "secondary weapon system" of twin linked AC that can be switched out for the volley guns? The picture with three lined up show 2 with AC and one with what I think is the volley gun. Worst gun mount position ever.

Hmm... new pics do not improve the look of the silly tank. It gets worse with each new gun iteration.

So, the Taurox Prime mounts a battlecannon on some kind of pod on the side of the turret? That just looks daft. The side-mounted guns are stupid too. That model just looks worse and worse with better images.

The standard Taurox makes a lot more sense. The turret looks plausible and there are no passenger-killing side guns. I personally didn't mind all the extra decoration, but it seems to be getting a more positive response for not having that too. Only the tracks are a problem now, although it's a big problem to me.

Looking at the reflection of the underside, it seems that each track unit might possibly be connected by a flexible suspension system, so they could be merely awful at crossing terrain rather than truly incapable. Still ridiculous for a vehicle that is meant to be designed for rough terrain to have such a stupid drivetrain.

The Tempestus Scions look great. They wouldn't fit in any of my armies, but I'm almost tempted to buy some just to paint up as display models.

 BrookM wrote:
I kinda want both the codex and a Taurox now, the Taurox actually wouldn't look half that bad with the turret and missile rack left off, keeping the actual vehicle as more of a grim-dark version of the Morris Humber or *insert name of the replacement for the Hummer here*, making for a rather neat riot control vehicle with the guns and Imperial Guard lion icons left off.

It wouldn't look half bad if you did that AND replaced the stupid tracks AND chapterhouse made an extended cab conversion kit like with the Storm Raven.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

The Tempestus Scions look great. They wouldn't fit in any of my armies, but I'm almost tempted to buy some just to paint up as display models.

I'm curious as to why you think they wouldn't fit (not a criticism, just curious). Is it visual aesthetic or choice of play style?

The whole background of Storm Troopers/ Tempestus Scions is that they do not belong to any IG Regt so will always look separate.

alphaecho wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

The Tempestus Scions look great. They wouldn't fit in any of my armies, but I'm almost tempted to buy some just to paint up as display models.

I'm curious as to why you think they wouldn't fit (not a criticism, just curious). Is it visual aesthetic or choice of play style?

The whole background of Storm Troopers/ Tempestus Scions is that they do not belong to any IG Regt so will always look separate.

I'm not a fan of that background, I prefer Kasrkin and DKOK Grenadiers that simply look like elite versions within the same army. I'm all about unity in my army, not a fan of individualistic units.

 Red__Thirst wrote:
I agree, the tracks being off-kilter a little bugs me, but that's not necessarily the kit, but he modeler who put the kit together.

Combined with the visible warping on the mudguards, the front bumper and the roof panel (most obvious on the blue missile variant) it does suggest some issues with the casting of this kit.

Someone needs to photoshop the green one with eight wheels. See how that looks.

I guess I the odd man out with the storm troopers. I realize that they're not guard per se, but for a military force that looks military they are overly decorative. I guess I am also sick of the super deformed "hero scale". Proportion humans properly dang it. I'm sick of fat arms and legs with big heads and no necks.

The berets are also dumb, and most of the face masks make them look noiseless.

I was hoping for inspiration to paint and play 40k again. Oh well...

alphaecho wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

The Tempestus Scions look great. They wouldn't fit in any of my armies, but I'm almost tempted to buy some just to paint up as display models.

I'm curious as to why you think they wouldn't fit (not a criticism, just curious). Is it visual aesthetic or choice of play style?

The whole background of Storm Troopers/ Tempestus Scions is that they do not belong to any IG Regt so will always look separate.

My 'guard' army are meant to be renegades and mercenaries (so I can easily justify fighting against imperial forces and allying with aliens). I've avoided giving them Imperial-specific units like Stormtroopers, Commissars and Priests to reinforce that theme.

 Leprousy wrote:
I guess I the odd man out with the storm troopers. I realize that they're not guard per se, but for a military force that looks military they are overly decorative. I guess I am also sick of the super deformed "hero scale". Proportion humans properly dang it. I'm sick of fat arms and legs with big heads and no necks.

The berets are also dumb, and most of the face masks make them look noiseless.

I was hoping for inspiration to paint and play 40k again. Oh well...

You must be new to the Imperium



What a nice statue on that warship! Very practical.



In future, Cathedral demolishes you!



Bright Colors and gold trim is standard military, right?



Fear the Furry Hats of the Emperor!

The IoM are not known to be modest when it comes to decorations, especially when it comes to the military.
The Scions are quite plain, really.

Did a quick mock up on paint to see how it would look if you just "trimmed" a bit the tracks.



look a bit less obnoxious, but you can do only so much, with out doing a full on overhaul, i think that the hull need to be lowered a good 1 or 2 inches.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Wow those Taurus pictures actually make it look even worse.

Agreed. Crap model with crap rules.

I'll take 10.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:



Bright Colors and gold trim is standard military, right?

I think the bigger concern is why he has a half dozen cash register receipt paper rolls attached to his power armor.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
So, the Taurox Prime mounts a battlecannon on some kind of pod on the side of the turret? That just looks daft. The side-mounted guns are stupid too. That model just looks worse and worse with better images.

The standard Taurox makes a lot more sense. The turret looks plausible and there are no passenger-killing side guns. I personally didn't mind all the extra decoration, but it seems to be getting a more positive response for not having that too. Only the tracks are a problem now, although it's a big problem to me.

Looking at the reflection of the underside, it seems that each track unit might possibly be connected by a flexible suspension system, so they could be merely awful at crossing terrain rather than truly incapable. Still ridiculous for a vehicle that is meant to be designed for rough terrain to have such a stupid drivetrain.

The Tempestus Scions look great. They wouldn't fit in any of my armies, but I'm almost tempted to buy some just to paint up as display models.

IT has to be Hitech. rather than 1930s look of standard IG vehicle.
Also standard Taurox with Fleur de Lys track bogie is not convincing me enough, removing it makes vehicle looks smarter meow~

Yet it is high speed vehicle now meowmeow~

 kronk wrote:

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Wow those Taurus pictures actually make it look even worse.

Agreed. Crap model with crap rules.

I'll take 10.

I'd believe you if it was a "limited edition" like the crappy looking void shield generator. It is now a proven fact that crap models plus limited supply = GW sold out in minutes. :(

 warboss wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:



Bright Colors and gold trim is standard military, right?

I think the bigger concern is why he has a half dozen cash register receipt paper rolls attached to his power armor.

Well...toilet paper isn't easy to come by on the battlefield...

 BrookM wrote:
That green Taurox actually made me go "woah!", nice!

Yeah me too. That Autocannon turret is sexy.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Leprousy wrote:
I guess I the odd man out with the storm troopers. I realize that they're not guard per se, but for a military force that looks military they are overly decorative. I guess I am also sick of the super deformed "hero scale". Proportion humans properly dang it. I'm sick of fat arms and legs with big heads and no necks.

The berets are also dumb, and most of the face masks make them look noiseless.

I was hoping for inspiration to paint and play 40k again. Oh well...

You must be new to the Imperium

Bright Colors and gold trim is standard military, right?



Fear the Furry Hats of the Emperor!

The IoM are not known to be modest when it comes to decorations, especially when it comes to the military.
The Scions are quite plain, really.

The guard have always been different though. When they were pompous and over dressed it was always based on interesting pompous and over dressed period military uniforms. So, yes bright colors and gold trim are VERY military. The Scions are moving into pure fantasy/gothic lite.

Theres a reason I never started space dude army before.

 kronk wrote:

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Wow those Taurus pictures actually make it look even worse.

Agreed. Crap model with crap rules.

I'll take 10.

Compare it to a razorback or rhino, the rules are good. The model however......

 loki old fart wrote:
Someone needs to photoshop the green one with eight wheels. See how that looks.

Ok now with just wheels on the front.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 loki old fart wrote:
Someone needs to photoshop the green one with eight wheels. See how that looks.

Much improved! Danke!


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok now with just wheels on the front.

Moon on a stick, much, HBMC?

 insaniak wrote:

 Red__Thirst wrote:
I agree, the tracks being off-kilter a little bugs me, but that's not necessarily the kit, but he modeler who put the kit together.

Combined with the visible warping on the mudguards, the front bumper and the roof panel (most obvious on the blue missile variant) it does suggest some issues with the casting of this kit.

Since it's pretty well known that new models that are painted are normally the step before full production models and GW hasn't had a plastic kit that's been off in quite a while I think it's not worth worrying about.

In general not a fan of the side guns but love the standard one. I don't even mind the front tracks but I also wouldn't object to swapping them out for wheels.

Wheeled version looks wholly acceptable. Third party manufacturers ... start your engines!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok now with just wheels on the front.

Does it has amphibious ability??

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok now with just wheels on the front.

1000x better.

Still fugly, but better.

I haven't commented on the minis yet, so:

I think the Taurox's butt-ugly, regardless of how pimped out it is or isn't. It's the awkward track sections and especially the stubby front that don't work for me, though even aside from that it's at best a servicable model. (Perfect Organism's wheeled edit is a big improvement, but it doesn't make me a fan of the Taurox.) What really gets me is that Forgeworld have done a whole bunch of Imperial Guard vehicles that do look good.

The price on the Scions is about acceptable for a command squad, but not for army building. I really like the minis themselves though. I love the Perry's old metal Guard, but if these new Storm Troopers are an indication of where the infantry's going I'm cool with that. Both the helmets and the bare heads look great, and I can dig the trims and the fitched cross motif, although I wouldn't paint them to be that contrasting.

Hydra (from that one pic) looks basic and straightforward, as well it should. Ogryns are probably decent plastics behind those paint jobs, but I'd hoped for a substantial redesign. The concept of 40K ogres (or hobbits) has never really done it for me. At least hiding their faces behind gasmasks helps a bit.

 Necroagogo wrote:
Wheeled version looks wholly acceptable. Third party manufacturers ... start your engines!

Did you hear this Chapterhouse?

I don't know what to think of this beast. I kind of like the ugliness of the kit, if I don't look at the tracks to closely. I don't see it fitting in well with the rest of the IG aesthetic. I want to see it next to some chimera and LRBT, it looks like it could shoot over them both!