Heaviest non-FW model?

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**40kenthusiast**

What's the heaviest model you can play in a game of 40k or WHFB? Greasus Goldtooth is the bulkiest I've ever found.

**Frazzled**

Landraider crusader as the heaviest? Monolith as the bulkiest?

**DebonaireToast**

All the old 2nd ed tanks are pretty heavy as they typically have metal turrets and sponsons.

The heaviest model that I own is probably the old metal Space Marine Dreadnought.
It can be handy for resolving rules arguments *WHACK*.

**Narlix**

Heaviest, chaos dreadnought, or the two headed chaos dragon its white metal, or one of the old school 3rd edition steam tanks mmmmmmmm solid hunk of lead.

Bulkiest would be a poorly made defilers, though monolith is close.

**whatwhat**

Bloodthirster is pretty heavy, I assume lord of change/keeper of secrets would be similar although I've never owned one. + old warhammer giant is a beast aswell.

**Excommunicate Traitoris**

Heaviest - the old Wood Elf Treeman was a solid lump of metal or the metal dreadnoughts.

Bulkiest - Monolith, the old Ork Battle Wagon was quite bulky if memory serves correctly - especially when loaded with Orks.

**oomiestompa**

The Exorcist has a lot of pewter on it. It certainly rivals any all pewter dreadnaught.

**Howard A Treesong**

It's absolutely got to the the Chicken Dragon.

http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/citmpdragon.htm

They are extremely rare though, a mint in box model is worth up to £2K IIRC.

But for mor normal stuff, well when they were still using lead, the Space Marine Dreadnaut, Warhammer Dragons or Warhammer Giant must have been up there.

And for this actualy moment? Well I suppose the LOTR Smaug is quite heavy.

**wilsmire**

I think i remember there being a metal 40k scale thunderhawk at one point in time

**Ifurita**

My heaviest figures would my old Stegadon, steam tank. or my metal dread. My heaviest figure overall is a large Grenadier Goblin War Giant.

**Howard A Treesong**

wilsmire wrote:I think i remember there being a metal 40k scale thunderhawk at one point in time

Yes! That's a close call with the Dragon then.

**sonofruss**

A gaming buddy of mine has the thunderhawk he says it weighs like 30lb

**JohnHwangDD**

whatwhat wrote:Bloodthirster is pretty heavy, I assume lord of change/keeper of secrets would be similar although I've never owned one. + old warhammer giant is a beast aswell.

The original Greater Daemons are the size of Ogryns. I have the improved WFB5 Keeper of Secrets, and it's spindly and lightweight.

The Empire Steam Tank, mk.2 is a beast.

That thing literally weighs 2 pounds.

**JohnHwangDD**

sonofruss wrote:A gaming buddy of mine has the thunderhawk he says it weighs like 30lb

Did GW remember to include a little flying stand?

**Narlix**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
sonofruss wrote:A gaming buddy of mine has the thunderhawk he says it weighs like 30lb

Did GW remember to include a little flying stand?

If I remember the picture of it in the WD right around the the 2nd to 3rd change ( was in a blood angels army) ,.... yes.. yes it did have the little flying stand.

**sonofruss**

He said every time he puts it on the table the landing gear pop off because of the weight.
I am glad I have the fw one still thinking what I am going to use as a flying stand thinking 2" thick black oak some 1" pipe and flanges and a cradle for the body.
Need to find the center of gravity on the hull.
Don't know if he has the flying stand for it have to ask.

**mussie76**

Howard A Treesong wrote:It's absolutely got to the the Chicken Dragon.

http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/citmpdragon.htm

They are extremely rare though, a mint in box model is worth up to £2K IIRC.

But for mor normal stuff, well when they were still using lead, the Space Marine Dreadnaut, Warhammer Dragons or Warhammer Giant must have been up there.

And for this actualy moment? Well I suppose the LOTR Smaug is quite heavy.

Thats a big fether

**whatwhat**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
whatwhat wrote:Bloodthirster is pretty heavy, I assume lord of change/keeper of secrets would be similar although I've never owned one. + old warhammer giant is a beast aswell.

The original Greater Daemons are the size of Ogryns. I have the improved WFB5 Keeper of Secrets, and it's spindly and lightweight.

Well I have bloodthirster and it's anything but spindly and lightweight and much bigger than an ogryn. The keeper of secrets came out a lot later than the other three as I remember. It's also possible the metals have changed since the mid nineties when I got it (like the plastics have).

Saying that I just had a look to see and the old warhammer giants are heavier than it + they're heavier than an old sm metal dread (which I assume will be similar to the chaos one which people have mentioned in this thread.)

edit: just tried out my old slann mage priest model, must be made of lead or something cause it's half the size of the giant but is well weighty.

**Sirius42**

I'd say the old metal thunderhawk is almost definantly up there somewhere, as for models still in production I'd make a guess that the heaviest/bulkiest might actually be greasus, or maybe the thirster?

**JD21290**

40k heavy - thunderhawk
40k bulky - monolith

WHFB heavy - chicken dragon
WHFB bulky - the old chaos dragon

also, anyone know how much those dragons go for? (chicken dragon)
im interested in buying one ...... if i can find one that is.

**GMMStudios**

The metal thunderhawk limited release in the 80s (I think)

Ive heard it fell apart under its own weight even when pinned.

**The Angry Commissar**

baneblade bulkiest?

**typhus**

steam tank i think

**Vertrucio**

Anyone know how much Razorfang from Vor weighed in at?

**jabbakahut**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
wilsmire wrote:I think i remember there being a metal 40k scale thunderhawk at one point in time

Yes! That's a close call with the Dragon then.

I think the hawk, that's a lot of pewter.

**Alex Kolodotschko**

This is just for completions sake. What a BEAST!

'The Manta is by far the largest model that Games Workshop has ever produced, and by a long way too! The Manta measures 630mm/25 inches long and has a wingspan of 860mm/34 inches! Weighing in at 12.5 kilos/28 pounds, it weighs six times as much as a Thunderhawk Gunship, and that is before we put all the tanks and Battlesuits inside.'

**thekyle1231**

I believe the title says Non-FW model.

**Platuan4th**

thekyle1231 wrote:I believe the title says Non-FW model.

Which would make the undisputed winner the old Metal Thunderhawk. It's larger and weighs more than the old metal Emperor Dragon(the one where you had to make the membranes yourself).

**jamunition**

Chaos Shaggoth?

**ShumaGorath**

Isn't the steam tank just a solid block of metal? And large? It's barely even hollow.