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**Antebellum**

Hyenajoe wrote:
Wehrkind wrote:I have kind of always wanted to see Emp's Kids with tentacled helmets, sort of like an illithid. I don't know why, but it seems sort of fitting.

Idea recorded!(It's worth to give a try.) Thanks man!

Great looking minis.

Might you use something like this Lokhir Fellheart?

I have no idea if the head is separate or not.

**Hyenajoe**

Antebellum wrote: Great looking minis.

Might you use something like this Lokhir Fellheart?

I have no idea if the head is separate or not.

Thanks!

I'd like to sculpt something similar for at least a squad.

I've worked on the princes yesterday (pics will follow today) and will soon be facing another question on the first Daemon Prince: shoulder pads (Yes? No? What kind? How to position it?)

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As promised, here are some new wip pics of the daemon princes.

1st prince:

Now comes the problem of the shoulder pads as I mentioned earlier. How should I position it? Any idea on this point is welcome.

2nd prince :
Here are the arms and legs I'll use for the winged DP. I'll have to build a specific scenic base myself for this one (you'll see why when I'll post pics of the assembled model).

Here's what he looks like with wings on:

And now with the left arm:

What do you think ?

**Antebellum**

I find that shoulder pads work nicely to bulk out the upper body of things. Marines look weird and scrawny without them, but putting them on makes them look bulky and imposing. I think it might work the same with this.

On the other hand, with the lithe snake-like body, I think shoulder pads might be too bulky. I vote no for shoulder pads on the first one, but I do think you need something to transition between the armored chest and the unarmored arms.

**tipios**

Looking good.

The arms and legs look so more daemonic than the originals. Shoulder pads might make it easier, because you wont have to do somuch GS on the joints. You know what I'm gona say, "can we have some pics so we can decide"

**Hyenajoe**

tipios wrote: You know what I'm gona say, "can we have some pics so we can decide"

You'll soon get pics! In fact there are three options for the snake prince:
- DP shoulder pads
- DP arm brace (I happen to have two of these)
- nothing but green stuffed junctions

I'll try to show you the first two today.

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I've found a fourth option for the snake DP shoulder pads: using the legs plates from the DP kit.

@ tipios, I've found an interesting use for the DP arm brace/plate, and I think you might be interested in getting one or two.

Pics will follow.

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Here are the pics.

First the snake prince with three shoulder pads options (not including the bare GSed shoulders option)
1) DP shoulder pads:

the problem being too much to fill:

2) the DP arm brace/plate (I don't know how to call this bit), which appear to be quite nice:

3) the DP leg plates (not bad either):

What do you think?

As I mentioned it I've also found another use for the DP arm plate/brace/stuff, which might interest those of use who get an interest in making chaos dreadnoughts:

I'll probably use on of those for my next Thousand Sons dread (when its time will come

)

I've also made a test positioning for the winged prince:

I'm not satisfied with it (I think it would look better if it was crouching a little more). I'll make a special scenic base of ruins for it (perhaps it'll look better once in situation).

That's all for today folks!

**tipios**

I prefer second arm plates.

They look good on a dread too ha, I need some lol!

Legs do look a bit funny from that angle. I love the big sythe!

**Papaskittels**

just wow....

**Hyenajoe**

Thanks!

I've made another test for the Winged Prince, it looks better this way:

What do you think?

**tipios**

Yep! much much better

infact I'd say amazing!

**Yggdrasil**

Agreed, last option is the best one!

**Killmaimburnkillmaimburn**

That DP looks amazing. What about trying to perch the winged DP on some ruins to help with the crouching stance, like he has just landed or is about to take off again?

**Antebellum**

The DP shoulder pads make him look like he has no shoulders. I like the second ones as well. Add a little bulk and make it so it doesn't look like he has a sleeveless power armor chest plate

The second picture of the DP is much better than the first. Though when I originally saw the first, I envisioned it holding onto the wall of a ruins with one hand and one leg. Similar to something you might see spider-man doing. Ready to push off with both feet and take flight.

**Hyenajoe**

Thanks you guys!

@killmaimburn & Antebellum : that's exactly what I have in mind. But to make this base, I have to define a final position first (actually the legs shape puts some limits to it), and then build adapted ruins. It might take some time but the result should be worth the efforts.

Every idea , comment or critic is welcome!

**tipios**

I think if you want him up a wall your gona have to cut the feet and change their angle. I like the pose now, it looks like he's looking for someone who's hiding in the ruins

I'm also liking the head without his extra spiky bits, maybe you could leave them off?

**Hyenajoe**

tipios wrote: I think if you want him up a wall your gona have to cut the feet and change their angle. I like the pose now, it looks like he's looking for someone who's hiding in the ruins

You're probably right. I don't want him especially up a wall, but rather on non-flat ruins so I guess I could manage to find an in between solution

.

tipios wrote: I'm also liking the head without his extra spiky bits, maybe you could leave them off?

Sure I could, some GS to fill the holes and it would be done, but...scything mandibles...it's so hard to resist

I'm currently thinking of getting another Abberation prime kit (I still have 2 other alternative heads and enough GW bits to make a third DP) but I can't resolve myself to say "that's enough".

I hope I'll be able to work on my models this week-end, but this last week has been quite exhausting and I fear to be unable to do something else than falling on the couch watching Doctor Who.

Just a question, back on the shoulder pads I'm not sure I have understood everyone's opinion is the best option n°2 or N°3?

I'll soon have to ask the same question for the winged prince, test pics will follow of course.

**tipios**

Wooops! I some how missed option 3, this is the option I now would like to see

not 2 lol!

**Killmaimburnkillmaimburn**

I agree with Tipios option 3 looks best proportion wise and coolness wise.

**Hyenajoe**

Hi everyone!

Against all expectations, I wasn't so lazy last week-end!

I haven't done anything new on the princes, but instead, I've tried to paint some models in order to finish them.

Here are the results:

1) Brother Bar'Brah, the Sonic Dreadnought (90% done)

There are still some details to be done, but I'm quite satisfied with it!
What do you think?

2) Brother Stinky, the Death Guard Dreadnought (early paint WIP)

He needs some yellowish effects and a good dirty wash.

I hope you'll like it!

**Moltar**

Nurgle Dred is coming along nicely! I like your sonic dread a lot too. I think the inlay designs with the brighter pink look really good and very Slaaneshi (sp?). My only concern on the sonic dread is the base. Or rather, the pink on the base. I feel like it's too pink. I think adding some washes too it to darken it some would make the dread pop more. I just feel like all those pinks blend together, distracting from that sweet dred. Either way, they're looking good, Joe!

**tipios**

Nice job Hyena

the sonic blaster looks awesome, that doom siren does the trick, and the lighning effect on the claw I like. How long did it take to do the pattern work thats all over the amour?

Dam, I need to get a move on painting my dreads:(

**Hyenajoe**

Moltar wrote:Nurgle Dred is coming along nicely! I like your sonic dread a lot too. I think the inlay designs with the brighter pink look really good and very Slaaneshi (sp?). My only concern on the sonic dread is the base. Or rather, the pink on the base. I feel like it's too pink. I think adding some washes too it to darken it some would make the dread pop more. I just feel like all those pinks blend together, distracting from that sweet dred. Either way, they're looking good, Joe!

Thanks Moltar! I'll probably use some purple wash on the base

tipios wrote:Nice job Hyena the sonic blaster looks awesome, that doom siren does the trick, and the lighning effect on the claw I like. How long did it take to do the pattern work thats all over the amour?

Dam, I need to get a move on painting my dreads:(

Thanks Tipios! I'm glad you like it! The pattern on the armour took about 1 hour for the whole model. I'm still waiting for my Dark Eldar chains and hooks to hang beneath the blaster (the wonders of intercontinental postage...

)

On this point, my wife told me I should have used purple instead of a lighter pink.
Since I'm planning to do the same for most of my Emp Kids models I like to know what people think about it.

So, what do think?

**Moltar**

No offense to your wife, but I respectfully disagree. I think the subtlety of the lighter pink is what helps make it looks more ornate. I feel like with purple you would get a bolder "look at this" thing going on similiar to that barbed vine thing Biel-Tan Eldar have all over their vehicles which, although doesn't look bad, it's not the same effect. I also think it would turn your awesome classic Emp Child stuff into more of a pansy pink and purple scheme. But that's just my opinion.

**Yggdrasil**

Agreed, the vines pattern on the Slaaneshi Dread is amazing. I'm pretty sure it would've taken me ages to reach that!

The result is subtle but great, I'd say keep it like this!

Also, good start on the Nurgle one, colour seems to be promising...

**Hyenajoe**

Thanks guys!

I'll keep the light pink pattern then.

I've got my DE bitz yesterday, and here's a test pic of the Blastmaster arm whith chains:

What do you think?

I'll be on holidays with my family next week, but I'm not sur I'll get much time to work on my various projects, but perhaps with luck and if I manage to hide some stuff in the car...

Cheers!

**tipios**

Those DE chains are nice

a good alternative to just using the chaos chains, it really suits the blaster.

Have a good holiday.

**Antebellum**

Really nice looking dreadnought. I think the chains work.

**Hyenajoe**

Thank you guys!

After examining the DE chains closely I've decided to order a lot more of these for my rhinos, I've also got some combat blades and they look just perfect for the chosen ones lightning claws!

Perhaps I'll get some time to make some GS work on the noise marines bodies.

I hope I'll be able to post new pics soon!

A la prochaine!

**Wehrkind**

Wow man, that DP is fan-frikken-tastic. All of them! If I wasn't so far out of 40k and so far behind in my WHFB army I would definitely be chopping up my PPP abom's for that use!

**Knightley**

I'm not a big fan of Chaos, however, your DP is amazing, I tip my hat to you. Really hope to see a really fantastic paint job on it to do it real justice!

**Tyranic Marta**

Personally im loving this thread, and as a dedicated Slaaneshi im loving the direction your recent posts have taken you, although im looking forward to more pics of that tower of Tzeentch

i think that the predatory pose of the recent prince is beautiful, looks like hes about to nom on an unsuspecting guardsman/marine/ork/omnomnomabble dude