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* and shadowswords.
I reckon they should do a conversion kit so you could buy bits to turn a shadowsword into a plasma blastgun.

Kanluwen wrote:Forge World apologizes to no one!

...Except me, because I seriously must be funding their Xenos lines single-handedly in upgrading my Cadians :-/

Good one, Kanluwen. I was looking for a new sig anyway.

Plasma blastgun? I would pay £10 quid for that badboy.

MajorTom11 wrote:P.s I have Tiger Blood.

Bah!

I will fit in with the Summer of Flyers, because I'm an F-18!!!!!!!

Ya well I'm an F18 piloted by a Vatican high priest assassin warlock who flies while simultaneously banging out 7 gram rocks, cause that's how I roll!

That is alot of expected releases....at the rate 40k releases things coupled with the rumors of grey knights, necrons, and the promise that they will have 95% of DE units in the codex available in the next year....i heavily doubt any of this materializes :(

MajorTom11 wrote:Ya well I'm an F18 piloted by a Vatican high priest assassin warlock who flies while simultaneously banging out 7 gram rocks, cause that's how I roll!

Boom...Winning

Bi-Winning!

Back OT, ya, if they deliver on everything that is rumored to be in the pipe for this year... Wow... way to go GW! Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst lol

My hope is plastic Hydras. God that would rule. After the ordeal of the FW Hydra, plastic is the only way.

A plastic Thunderbolt would be quite nice as well.

Really it only makes sense that SM would get a Thunderhawk fluff wise.... They're clearly not only used in huge apocalypse battles... but you'd have to make it like a bagillion points.


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Element206 wrote:That is alot of expected releases....at the rate 40k releases things coupled with the rumors of grey knights, necrons, and the promise that they will have 95% of DE units in the codex available in the next year....i heavily doubt any of this materializes :(

Yeah.... I'm afraid that I have to agree with that. With the rate GW comes out with stuff I can see Greyknights.... Necrons... and maybe Dark Eldar flyers. That's it. :(

Iandroid wrote:Really it only makes sense that SM would get a Thunderhawk fluff wise

I agree. You can already copypasta the rules for titans and baneblades into Chaos, while Chaos have their own unique flyers in the Hell Blade and Hell Talon. Thunderhawk is the only super-heavy and the only flyer for Marines, it should stay that way.

Iandroid wrote:but you'd have to make it like a bagillion points.

They already are, coming in at 900 points base. I've had mine for upwards of two years and only used it three times as its so expensive that it is difficult to take in Apocalypse even, especially when Tau and Eldar have better equipped super-heavy flyers buzzing around for less points. The Thunderhawk is a transport though which is where some of its points come from but the price tag is just so high it is difficult to fit it in if you aren't doing a truly huge Apocalypse game.

I’m really hoping for some Tau fliers…. Maybe a Barracuda (that would be very nice)
Getting something for the SM would be nice too…. The Storm Raven turned out to be a nice addition and with a little modification is a cool model….

'Getting something for the SM would be nice too'

Marines get too much already

I could see a plastic Thunderhawk, for apocalyse, but imagine the LOS blocking you could do with that thing

I can't see a plastic thunderhawk. They're not going to be releasing a plastic $300 model anytime soon.

Ascalam wrote:Marines get too much already

Astartes (Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Black Templar, and Codex Chapters) have a lot of goodies but they are the most neglected in Apocalypse, except for Dark Eldar which will likely change rapidly. As far as unique Apocalypse toys, Marines have the Thunderhawk. Look at their Forge World section, its all alternate versions of Land Raiders and rhino chassis vehicles. The only truly original models that Marines get from Forge World are the Thunderhawk (Transporter too) and the Caestus Assault Ram. When Marines play Apocalypse, they are forced to either just mass regular units in formations or use Titans/Baneblades.

So in regular 40K, Marines (and maybe IG) get far too much attention. In Apocalypse, Marines get shunned while IG, Orks, Eldar, Tau, and others have many options to expand their collection with models that match the styling of their 40K force. As far as gameplay, Marines are a very powerful set of codices so that isn't a problem. In short, the substance is fine but the style is pitiful.

SonicPara wrote:

Ascalam wrote:Marines get too much already

Astartes (Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Black Templar, and Codex Chapters) have a lot of goodies but they are the most neglected in Apocalypse, except for Dark Eldar which will likely change rapidly. As far as unique Apocalypse toys, Marines have the Thunderhawk. Look at their Forge World section, its all alternate versions of Land Raiders and rhino chassis vehicles. The only truly original models that Marines get from Forge World are the Thunderhawk (Transporter too) and the Caestus Assault Ram. When Marines play Apocalypse, they are forced to either just mass regular units in formations or use Titans/Baneblades.

So in regular 40K, Marines (and maybe IG) get far too much attention. In Apocalypse, Marines get shunned while IG, Orks, Eldar, Tau, and others have many options to expand their collection with models that match the styling of their 40K force. As far as gameplay, Marines are a very powerful set of codices so that isn't a problem. In short, the substance is fine but the style is pitiful.

GW's approach to Astares in Apocalypse is quite fitting. In fact, it is so subtle, most marine players completely miss it.

The Emperor's Angels of Death need not godmachines or huge tanks. They have tactical dreadnought armor to allow them to weather the worst a titan or daemon can hurl at them while smiting it quickly and easily (titan hammer squads). They can out maneuver any other army with easy and a little help from the wise dreadnoughts (dreadnought assault granting flank march). They also get the ability to fly across the field in a thunderhawk and do it all in a more blunt obvious way.

The Astares don't need a blue armored An'ggrath, just creativity.

Oh, I missed the point. Everyone should get some new plastic kit they only get to pull out once in a great while. This was not a comment about combat effectiveness as that would be silly.

the_trooper wrote:GW's approach to Astares in Apocalypse is quite fitting. In fact, it is so subtle, most marine players completely miss it.

The Emperor's Angels of Death need not godmachines or huge tanks.

Oh I agree whole-heartedly. I just get bothered when people bring their general bias against Marines and their releases over to Apocalypse where really, Marines are totally neglected as far as fancy new kits go. That is all I was attempting to state.

Being reasonable will get you nowhere fast on a Warhammer forum.

SonicPara wrote:

Astartes (Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Black Templar, and Codex Chapters) have a lot of goodies but they are the most neglected in Apocalypse, except for Dark Eldar which will likely change rapidly. As far as unique Apocalypse toys, Marines have the Thunderhawk. Look at their Forge World section, its all alternate versions of Land Raiders and rhino chassis vehicles. The only truly original models that Marines get from Forge World are the Thunderhawk (Transporter too) and the Caestus Assault Ram. When Marines play Apocalypse, they are forced to either just mass regular units in formations or use Titans/Baneblades.

So in regular 40K, Marines (and maybe IG) get far too much attention. In Apocalypse, Marines get shunned while IG, Orks, Eldar, Tau, and others have many options to expand their collection with models that match the styling of their 40K force. As far as gameplay, Marines are a very powerful set of codices so that isn't a problem. In short, the substance is fine but the style is pitiful.

I would counter that by directing your attention to the necron section of the FW website, check out the 2 items on there! WOOHOO!!!!

Oh wow, I totally forgot about Necrons. As far as new toys go, Marines and Necrons are tied at 2. Marines have lots of wargear kits though so it seems way better then the Necrons.

Now that I think about it, why hasn't Forge World ever made a kit for that super Monolith in Apoc Reload? It would be a pretty simple conversion kit to make the staple unit of the Necrons have a little variety.

Because no-one at corporate HQ gives a crud about Necrons ?


I'd love to see a mega-monolith, or a plastic Pylon kit..

What i'd like even more would be a necron vehicle that had a hope of reaching the other side of an APOC battlefield before the crack of doom (barring DS monoliths)..

Ascalam wrote:Because no-one at corporate HQ gives a crud about Necrons ?


I'd love to see a mega-monolith, or a plastic Pylon kit..

What i'd like even more would be a necron vehicle that had a hope of reaching the other side of an APOC battlefield before the crack of doom (barring DS monoliths)..

I sincerely don't see appeal in the Necron superheavies. Pylon is REALLY boring, and a mega monolith is just a slightly larger monolith. If they got redesigned they could be cool, but damn the current pylon (and conversions I've seen of the mega-monolith) are boring.

SonicPara wrote:

Ascalam wrote:Marines get too much already

Astartes (Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Black Templar, and Codex Chapters) are the most neglected in Apocalypse

get a fellblade. ^^

shrike wrote:get a fellblade. ^^

Oh man, I would love a fellblade in either plastic or resin. Now that Forge World has dabbled in Heresy Era stuff maybe we will see one in the coming years.

Plastic Hydra would be awesome for my traitor guard - that kit would give me the guns to go on my Ork trukk bodies, and the chassis I'm using for traitor tanks!

Fellblades:

Blood Angels - http://apocalypse40k.blogspot.com/2010/12/fellblades-of-tom-mcbride.html

Imperial Fists - http://apocalypse40k.blogspot.com/2011/02/tom-mcbride-model-maker-extraordinaire.html

He sells the kits to make them. My parts are on the way for the Blood Angels one.

Or better yet:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/326420.page

And what does all that have to do with "Summer of Flyers"? Not a thing. This thread is dead, again.

Captain Ventris over at Warseer posted the working name of this expansion:

40K Expansion: Wartorn Skies-July(...)
Yes, 40K Expansion: Wartorn Skies will be an expansion supposedly done as a White Dwarf Expansion similar to Spearhead however will have actual models released with it.

Wartorn Skies is the working name for the expansion and will likely be kept, but as its a White Dwarf expansion, they can easily change it out before going to the printer...

Fits with 2nd wave Dark Eldar in June, which should include the flyers in June or July.

Here a nice most probably faked box art for a possible Thunderbolt floating the internet for some time:



BTW I updated the first post to include all rumour quotes.

Stop tormenting me, Kroothawk! I want that second wave already.... AND the Thunderbolt.

Sick fake-box though.