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It is a fake, an old April's Fools joke from a Polish or Russian site.

But a well designed fake.

I would love to have access to Tau remora and any other drones as I am hoping that Drones take a bigger role in the next codex.

Stormrider wrote:My hope is plastic Hydras. God that would rule. After the ordeal of the FW Hydra, plastic is the only way.

A plastic Thunderbolt would be quite nice as well.

This. Plastic > Resin when it comes to the recent shoddy casting and packaging by FW.

Seriously, when you pay that much for a cast, and it arrives full of air bubbles or bent out of shape, why pay at all?

On the topic of Tau... I love the way their vehicles are very 'aquatic'

If that's a fake box, it could have fooled me. Looks awesome, and I'd definitely pick one up.

I'm continuing to hold out hope...but who knows? We'll just have to wait a nother couple months to see.

Kroothawk wrote:Captain Ventris over at Warseer posted the working name of this expansion:

40K Expansion: Wartorn Skies-July(...)
Yes, 40K Expansion: Wartorn Skies will be an expansion supposedly done as a White Dwarf Expansion similar to Spearhead however will have actual models released with it.

Wartorn Skies is the working name for the expansion and will likely be kept, but as its a White Dwarf expansion, they can easily change it out before going to the printer...

Fits with 2nd wave Dark Eldar in June, which should include the flyers in June or July.

Here a nice most probably faked box art for a possible Thunderbolt floating the internet for some time:



BTW I updated the first post to include all rumour quotes.

The picture wouldn't load, could someone repost it?

This. Plastic > Resin when it comes to the recent shoddy casting and packaging by FW.

Seriously, when you pay that much for a cast, and it arrives full of air bubbles or bent out of shape, why pay at all?

On the topic of Tau... I love the way their vehicles are very 'aquatic'

Agreed.. FW lately has been using extremely poor casting techniques that required one of my friends to spend 30 hours "fixing" his thunderhawk

The issues are the molds are old as hell.. and FW uses low quality resin (despite forcing us to pay high quality prices).. I wish they'd just scrap those molds, i mean come on it can't be that expensive to make a newer resin mold.. Its resin for crying out loud, not diamonds

Im to the point where I wont even buy old FW models such as the warhound or thunderhawk.. my eldar stuff was *alright* but still warped

I actually had only minor warpage with my Warhound...all the important bitz were fine, and fit together perfectly well. The minor warpage there was was easily fixed with some good ol' warm water.

That boxart is friggin great! I'll take three!

[quote=Kroothawk

Illumini wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:

The Rising Sun is back!

I want many, please GW, make this happen

What would be awsome. Although I want some of the bombers from Soulstorm.

Kirasu wrote:

This. Plastic > Resin when it comes to the recent shoddy casting and packaging by FW.

Seriously, when you pay that much for a cast, and it arrives full of air bubbles or bent out of shape, why pay at all?

On the topic of Tau... I love the way their vehicles are very 'aquatic'

Agreed.. FW lately has been using extremely poor casting techniques that required one of my friends to spend 30 hours "fixing" his thunderhawk

The issues are the molds are old as hell.. and FW uses low quality resin (despite forcing us to pay high quality prices).. I wish they'd just scrap those molds, i mean come on it can't be that expensive to make a newer resin mold.. Its resin for crying out loud, not diamonds

Im to the point where I wont even buy old FW models such as the warhound or thunderhawk.. my eldar stuff was *alright* but still warped

Even the newer smaller stuff I have purchased recently made me want to puke. super high quality art.. bad casting
when you haev an air bubble on the little stuff it means parts are missing
but we digress... Give me a hell talon!

+1 to everything Scottywan82 said.

logg_frogg wrote:

Kirasu wrote:

This. Plastic > Resin when it comes to the recent shoddy casting and packaging by FW.

Seriously, when you pay that much for a cast, and it arrives full of air bubbles or bent out of shape, why pay at all?

On the topic of Tau... I love the way their vehicles are very 'aquatic'

Agreed.. FW lately has been using extremely poor casting techniques that required one of my friends to spend 30 hours "fixing" his thunderhawk

The issues are the molds are old as hell.. and FW uses low quality resin (despite forcing us to pay high quality prices).. I wish they'd just scrap those molds, i mean come on it can't be that expensive to make a newer resin mold.. Its resin for crying out loud, not diamonds

Im to the point where I wont even buy old FW models such as the warhound or thunderhawk.. my eldar stuff was *alright* but still warped

Even the newer smaller stuff I have purchased recently made me want to puke. super high quality art.. bad casting
when you haev an air bubble on the little stuff it means parts are missing

That's why I'm convinced some of my recent FW purchases from eBay are fakes. The casting was just too damn good to have actually been from FW. There were no air bubbles or other flaws in the cast, and nothing was warped!
I've been wanting a thunderhawk for years, but FW's quality has kept me from doing so. If the Summer of Flyers rumors are true, I'd gladly build a plastic Imperial Navy force.

I just received my Thunderhawk from FW today. I had only one part that was messed up and needs to be replaced. Almost the entire kit was straight without any warping. Overall, I'm very impressed with the quality. I'm wondering if they recently made a new mold....

I've made 3 orders with FW in the past 2 months and everything was amazing, only a few air bubbles and 2 warpage issues.

t-hawk wrote:I just received my Thunderhawk from FW today. I had only one part that was messed up and needs to be replaced. Almost the entire kit was straight without any warping. Overall, I'm very impressed with the quality. I'm wondering if they recently made a new mold....

Reported as troll account.

"t-hawk" commenting on his FW Thunderhawk

4 posts total.

Joined today.

Yeh... either a FW employee or someone attempting to be smart.

If you were a FW employee with positive news like new molds, why not just say you are a FW employee and say "Hey, i work at FW and we've recently got a new 'Hawk mold, so if you order now it will be perfect".



Rude comment removed.

.....errr.. He didn't join today.

It would appear he's just a new user, and nothing at all to do with FW or somesuch.

So, "fun" as flying off the handle without any actual evdience is, if we could not insult new users that's be good. Ta

AvatarForm wrote:

t-hawk wrote:I just received my Thunderhawk from FW today. I had only one part that was messed up and needs to be replaced. Almost the entire kit was straight without any warping. Overall, I'm very impressed with the quality. I'm wondering if they recently made a new mold....

Reported as troll account.

"t-hawk" commenting on his FW Thunderhawk

4 posts total.

Joined today.

Yeh... either a FW employee or someone attempting to be smart.

Or perhaps someone who was so hella excited about his Thunderhawk that he used it for a username? My Lightning I just recieved was in pretty good shape as well. Overall I have no complaints from my recent FW order either. Am I a shill?

Sorry, got over excited.

On a serious note though, you'd think that FW (or GW for that matter) would encourage their employees to let the masses know if somethign had happened to improve the quality of models or customer service.

I wonder if a ligit poster woudl get in troubel with FW if they posted on here that new molds were beign used. afterall, there's always the chance that having info liek this woudl make people order a FW model when they normally wouldn't.


Ho hum.

Hopefully the rest of the Marines get access to the Stormraven too with this "Summer of Flyers".

TBD wrote:Hopefully the rest of the Marines get access to the Stormraven too with this "Summer of Flyers".

Why?

Just because one Space Marine Chapter has access to something, doesn't mean they all need it. Deathwing has lost its uniqueness because of that idea.

It's more likely we'll see the plastic Thunderhawk, or maybe even the Land Speeder Tempest.

Kanluwen wrote:

TBD wrote:Hopefully the rest of the Marines get access to the Stormraven too with this "Summer of Flyers".

Why?

Just because one Space Marine Chapter has access to something, doesn't mean they all need it. Deathwing has lost its uniqueness because of that idea.

It's more likely we'll see the plastic Thunderhawk, or maybe even the Land Speeder Tempest.

In this case I think it makes sense they all have access to it.

By the time the Flyers expansion hits GW has had plenty of time to use the thing as an extra incentive to sell Blood Angel/Grey Knights armies, so now they can get all the other Marine players to buy it too. Easy $$$ and the perfect opportunity.

A Thunderhawk would almost certainly only be usable in Apocalypse, which a lot of people don't even play, so I'll believe a Thunderhawk when I see one. Would be cool of course, but it's probably unlikely to be part of this release.

TBD wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

TBD wrote:Hopefully the rest of the Marines get access to the Stormraven too with this "Summer of Flyers".

Why?

Just because one Space Marine Chapter has access to something, doesn't mean they all need it. Deathwing has lost its uniqueness because of that idea.

It's more likely we'll see the plastic Thunderhawk, or maybe even the Land Speeder Tempest.

In this case I think it makes sense they all have access to it.

By the time the Flyers expansion hits GW has had plenty of time to use the thing as an extra incentive to sell Blood Angel/Grey Knights armies, so now they can get all the other Marine players to buy it too. Easy $$$ and the perfect opportunity.

A Thunderhawk would almost certainly only be usable in Apocalypse, which a lot of people don't even play, so I'll believe a Thunderhawk when I see one. Would be cool of course, but it's probably unlikely to be part of this release.

And a Thunderbolt wouldn't "almost certainly only be usable in Apocalypse"? Or an Eldar Phoenix/Void Dragon? A Tyranid Harridan?

That's what we're looking at for this "Hostile Skies" expansion. It's looking more and more like something meant to work alongside Apocalypse level games, not normal level games.

Thunderhawk, as it stands, is the "best option" for the Astartes factions. Everyone, even Chaos, can use them.

How concrete are the rumours about all those huge flyers then?

If they have a release full of 100,- Euro models I'm inclined to think they would not sell enough of them to make back their investment, to be honest. They have only released two (three if you count the two Guard tanks as separate) such kits yet, and not at the same time. I don't think it would be a wise economic decision to release three or more of these things at the same time. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

TBD wrote:How concrete are the rumours about all those huge flyers then?

If they have a release full of 100,- Euro models I'm inclined to think they would not sell enough of them to make back their investment, to be honest. They have only released two (three if you count the two Guard tanks as separate) such kits yet, and not at the same time. I don't think it would be a wise economic decision to release three or more of these things at the same time. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

You really think they wouldn't sell enough of them to make their money back?

Let's see how many people have wanted Thunderhawks or any of the big flyers from Forge World over the years.

Now, how many would buy them if they were in plastic and around the $120ish mark?

Kanluwen wrote:Just because one Space Marine Chapter has access to something, doesn't mean they all need it. Deathwing has lost its uniqueness because of that idea.

It's more likely we'll see the plastic Thunderhawk, or maybe even the Land Speeder Tempest.

I agree with keeping certain things unique to certain chapters. I have no need for Blood Angel "bat riders," Black Templar "mounted knights," or Ultramarines riding upscaled smurfs piggyback-style just because the Space Puppies get to ride around on wolves.

I never really thought of a Tempest as an option for Summer of Flyers... But if that did release in plastic, I'd take one (or nine). Still want the Thunderhawk, but I'd definitely be happy with a Tempest in plastic (not as a replacement for a Thunderhawk, but in addition, of course!).

TBD wrote:A Thunderhawk would almost certainly only be usable in Apocalypse, which a lot of people don't even play, so I'll believe a Thunderhawk when I see one. Would be cool of course, but it's probably unlikely to be part of this release.

Regardless of whether people play Apoc or not, I still think a plastic Thunderhawk would be a massive seller. I know a few people who own Baneblades and Shadowswords, and not only do they not play Apoc games, they don't even play Guard (or any force of the Imperium in some cases). They buy the models for the awesome factor, not the play factor. I think we'd see even more of that with a plastic Thunderhawk.


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Kanluwen wrote:

TBD wrote:How concrete are the rumours about all those huge flyers then?

If they have a release full of 100,- Euro models I'm inclined to think they would not sell enough of them to make back their investment, to be honest. They have only released two (three if you count the two Guard tanks as separate) such kits yet, and not at the same time. I don't think it would be a wise economic decision to release three or more of these things at the same time. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

You really think they wouldn't sell enough of them to make their money back?

Let's see how many people have wanted Thunderhawks or any of the big flyers from Forge World over the years.

Now, how many would buy them if they were in plastic and around the $120ish mark?

Hell, I'd buy a plastic Thunderhawk at $200/250 easy. Anything beats $700+, right? Plus, with the increase in GW's plastic quality and its ease of customization, I'd take one of those over a Forgeworld one even if they were the same price (not that I have the cash to shell out for the FW one anyway).

Hi guys just a mini update on this:
Was speaking to a GW store manager and they are having a quarterly meeting Next week to discuss events occurring in the second quarter of 2011. He said it was likely that the fliers would be discussed. So i would recommend asking a store manager in the next couple weeks, you may get a hint.

Kanluwen wrote:

TBD wrote:How concrete are the rumours about all those huge flyers then?

If they have a release full of 100,- Euro models I'm inclined to think they would not sell enough of them to make back their investment, to be honest. They have only released two (three if you count the two Guard tanks as separate) such kits yet, and not at the same time. I don't think it would be a wise economic decision to release three or more of these things at the same time. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

You really think they wouldn't sell enough of them to make their money back?

Let's see how many people have wanted Thunderhawks or any of the big flyers from Forge World over the years.

Now, how many would buy them if they were in plastic and around the $120ish mark?

If they release a whole bunch of them at the same time, then yes I do think that. Releasing one or maybe two at a time is perfectly fine.

I wouldn't buy any personally, but that is just me of course.