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But the point is Magneto can sense metal. Necrodermis is.metal. As soon as he realised his sidekick now had a metal arm he would be alerted. He would be able to stop bullets in midair. A Culexus would be the best to take him out as he would be surrounded with Psychics like Prof X.

But of corse, this is all academic if the films are canon.

Prof. X : KIA
Magneto : now just a person.
Cyclops : KIA
Jean Granger : KIA

For the purposes of this discussion the invasion has taken place just after Secret Invasion. So the professor (who for some reason couldn't detect Skrulls and also didn't bother to warn anyone else) and Magneto are still in action. I'm not sure about Jean though.

@Deadshot: It's been established that he can exert control of non-magnetic metals, such as gold, but can he sense them? If so then what is his ability to 'sense' non-magnetic materials restricted to?

The Crusader wrote:But of corse, this is all academic if the films are canon.

Prof. X : KIA
Magneto : now just a person.
Cyclops : KIA
Jean Granger : KIA

Jean and Cyclops yes. Charles, if you watch after the credits of Xmen 3, transfers his conciousness to a comatose man with no conciousness. Magneto, right before the credits, can be seen shifting a metal chess piece, ever so slightly, without touching it, leading to believe that the "cure" is only temporary.


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Hazardous Harry wrote:For the purposes of this discussion the invasion has taken place just after Secret Invasion. So the professor (who for some reason couldn't detect Skrulls and also didn't bother to warn anyone else) and Magneto are still in action. I'm not sure about Jean though.

@Deadshot: It's been established that he can exert control of non-magnetic metals, such as gold, but can he sense them? If so then what is his ability to 'sense' non-magnetic materials restricted to?

Yes he can sense them. Again, in Xmen 3, Wolverine tries to sneak into the Brotherhood camp but Magneto detects him, and I quote, "would.know the scent of your adamantium anywhere." I believe it is.only.metal he can control.

Hazardous Harry wrote:The Callidus could be literally anyone. His daughter, his son. Hell, even his grandchild. Magneto is going to let his guard down sooner or later, even if it's only for any instant. Callidus Assassins have killed targets that would considered far more secure, and far more paranoid, than Magneto.

Say the Callidus succeeds. After everything it gets around to finally get at Magneto. Guess what, that took 6 months. He took care of the fleet in minutes, months ago.

That's if they recognize him fast enough as a threat, from as far out as Jupiter.

That's if they deploy a ship, made of metal, traveling in real space, before he obliterates the fleet.

That's if it makes it to Earth intact.

Then it lands, get through all his defences, and assassinates him. Good job, the invasion ended half a year ago. Now it's in the middle of one of the most powerful organizations on the planet (X-Men), you're dead, and that's the last of the Invasion Force.

That's just one guy.

Marvel still wins.

We're all going up against a brick wall. Harry is gonna keep slinging crap until everyone agrees with him. No matter how wrong some people are, they refuse to admit it. We have seven pages of people saying why Marvel would win, he focuses on one character and proceeds to say what can be boiled down to "nuh uh guys.". Harry, we bow to your ability to rail against a universe you don't understand.

The Imperium has literally tens of thousands of worlds to draw resources from.
This is a good thing, as they will need them if they every wanted to defeat Marvel Heroes in a war of attrition.
I would not expect that to happen though.

Franklin Richards would just create an alternate universe then send the IoM and the rest of the 40k races into it. He might even start a miniature wargame based upon it afterwords.

timetowaste85 wrote:We're all going up against a brick wall. Harry is gonna keep slinging crap until everyone agrees with him. No matter how wrong some people are, they refuse to admit it. We have seven pages of people saying why Marvel would win, he focuses on one character and proceeds to say what can be boiled down to "nuh uh guys.". Harry, we bow to your ability to rail against a universe you don't understand.

Yeah this has been the case for the last 4 pages anyhow.

I realize that this is not exactly the answer the OP was looking for, however, after reading a ton of marvel x overs, I'm pretty sure it would go down something like this:

The IOM attacks and a there is a huge glorious battle scene. Lots of people die, solders from most of earths military forces, lots of guardsmen and asartes, and maybe some very minor heroes and villains along with expendable IOM minor players, pretty much anyone low on plot armor. Everything is at a stalemate when the real villains show up, the forces of Chaos and Apocalypse, Magneto, Dr Doom, all the big baddies. Who have secretly been planning the invasion for years in order to weaken both sides in order to finally destroy them for their own personal reasons. Apoc. with the evolution thing, Magneto with the anti human thing and so on and so on.

The MU and the IOM suddenly realize that they've been had and decide to work together to fight this new threat. Because of their weakened state, the forces of evil are starting to prevail and everyone is doomed.

Suddenly Cable shows up with the Eldar. They condescendingly explain to everyone that they are all idiots and should have seen this coming. The only hope is for an elite force made up of heroes from both sides to travel back in time with Cable in order to prevent the whole screw up from ever happening in the first place. The remaining forces need to keep the defensive struggle up long enough to buy enough time for our heroes to complete their mission.

Everyone hops in Cables fancy time machine and, wouldn't you know it, Tzeentch was prepared for this and also sent some hard hitters back in time to stop our heroes. I'm thinking some pretty amazing fights between Abbadon and Wolverine, Deadpool and Kharn would be fun. In any case, back in normal time, everything is not going as planned. The forces of evil are crushing the resistance and it is obvious that they are not going to be able to hold out long enough for the guys to get the job done in the past.

Suddenly Magneto has a change of heart when he realizes just how powerful chaos is and how it will eventually corrupt even the mutants into slaves to the dark gods. This is probably due to the fact that he took his helmet off for a moment and Xavier, using cerebro was able to give his old friend a psycic vision of the future if the bad guys win. He does his usual switch sides thing and starts to shred the bad guys from within.

Meanwhile back in the past; mission accomplished. Disaster is averted, however, this has started a rift in the natural order of things and something horrible is eating time itself. Cable decides to send everyone back to the future and sacrifice himself in order to plug the hole and save everything. This would have a really long complicated scientific explanation that Reed Richards would have a page dedicated to explaining. Doesn't matter really, what matters is that Cable sends everyone back with him giving up his life (don't worry he'll be back) to save the day.

The bad guys are sent back to the warp and the good guys win. The very last page is Apocalypse shown being possessed by a daemon and vowing revenge as Daemonic En Shabba Nur!

The end.



Or is it??!??!?!?

And I would buy every issue

Okay, let's drop Magneto, I can only imagine the destruction that would be wrought by Sentry and the Hulk alone.

King Pariah wrote:Okay, let's drop Magneto, I can only imagine the destruction that would be wrought by Sentry and the Hulk alone.

Yeah it does not matter if you drop mags, MU has more powerful folks anyhow. There is simply zero chance of the IoM fleet winning a fight for 616 earth.

Magneto is one of Marvel Universe's heavy hitters, but not the only one.

Nate Grey for example is Cable's duplicate from the Age of Apocalypse. Like Cable his telepathic and telekinetic powers are off the charts, unlike Cable he doesn't expend most of his power keeping the techno-organic virus from consuming his body.

Wonderman, as Hollywood in the Galactic Guardians, destroyed an invading fleet of aliens by himself.

Was unsure if Nate was still around at that time. I am pretty sure he was dead by then. A pity, I always liked him.

Khornesnake wrote:I realize that this is not exactly the answer the OP was looking for, however, after reading a ton of marvel x overs, I'm pretty sure it would go down something like this:

The IOM attacks and a there is a huge glorious battle scene. Lots of people die, solders from most of earths military forces, lots of guardsmen and asartes, and maybe some very minor heroes and villains along with expendable IOM minor players, pretty much anyone low on plot armor. Everything is at a stalemate when the real villains show up, the forces of Chaos and Apocalypse, Magneto, Dr Doom, all the big baddies. Who have secretly been planning the invasion for years in order to weaken both sides in order to finally destroy them for their own personal reasons. Apoc. with the evolution thing, Magneto with the anti human thing and so on and so on.

The MU and the IOM suddenly realize that they've been had and decide to work together to fight this new threat. Because of their weakened state, the forces of evil are starting to prevail and everyone is doomed.

Suddenly Cable shows up with the Eldar. They condescendingly explain to everyone that they are all idiots and should have seen this coming. The only hope is for an elite force made up of heroes from both sides to travel back in time with Cable in order to prevent the whole screw up from ever happening in the first place. The remaining forces need to keep the defensive struggle up long enough to buy enough time for our heroes to complete their mission.

Everyone hops in Cables fancy time machine and, wouldn't you know it, Tzeentch was prepared for this and also sent some hard hitters back in time to stop our heroes. I'm thinking some pretty amazing fights between Abbadon and Wolverine, Deadpool and Kharn would be fun. In any case, back in normal time, everything is not going as planned. The forces of evil are crushing the resistance and it is obvious that they are not going to be able to hold out long enough for the guys to get the job done in the past.

Suddenly Magneto has a change of heart when he realizes just how powerful chaos is and how it will eventually corrupt even the mutants into slaves to the dark gods. This is probably due to the fact that he took his helmet off for a moment and Xavier, using cerebro was able to give his old friend a psycic vision of the future if the bad guys win. He does his usual switch sides thing and starts to shred the bad guys from within.

Meanwhile back in the past; mission accomplished. Disaster is averted, however, this has started a rift in the natural order of things and something horrible is eating time itself. Cable decides to send everyone back to the future and sacrifice himself in order to plug the hole and save everything. This would have a really long complicated scientific explanation that Reed Richards would have a page dedicated to explaining. Doesn't matter really, what matters is that Cable sends everyone back with him giving up his life (don't worry he'll be back) to save the day.

The bad guys are sent back to the warp and the good guys win. The very last page is Apocalypse shown being possessed by a daemon and vowing revenge as Daemonic En Shabba Nur!

The end.



Or is it??!??!?!?

And I would buy every issue

Ok, this sounds pretty cool.
Needs more grimdark though. And dakka.

culsandar wrote:

Hazardous Harry wrote:The Callidus could be literally anyone. His daughter, his son. Hell, even his grandchild. Magneto is going to let his guard down sooner or later, even if it's only for any instant. Callidus Assassins have killed targets that would considered far more secure, and far more paranoid, than Magneto.

Say the Callidus succeeds. After everything it gets around to finally get at Magneto. Guess what, that took 6 months. He took care of the fleet in minutes, months ago.

That's if they recognize him fast enough as a threat, from as far out as Jupiter.

That's if they deploy a ship, made of metal, traveling in real space, before he obliterates the fleet.

That's if it makes it to Earth intact.

Officio Operatives act completely outside the organisational structure of the Imperium. While an invasion force might take months or years to muster, let alone arrive, the Assassin's are not bogged by the Administratum's inefficiency. It's likely that, if they knew the kind of threat some of the ME characters posed, they would be deployed far before the invasion force. And I don't know if Magneto would be able to detect ships using highly advanced stealth fields, especially if he wasn't keeping an eye on him.

Then it lands, get through all his defences, and assassinates him. Good job, the invasion ended half a year ago. Now it's in the middle of one of the most powerful organizations on the planet (X-Men), you're dead, and that's the last of the Invasion Force.

That's just one guy.

Marvel still wins.

Good point. But why would Magneto destroy the fleet the moment it entered the Solar System? He hasn't really done that for any other alien invasion of any sort.

timetowaste85 wrote:We're all going up against a brick wall. Harry is gonna keep slinging crap until everyone agrees with him. No matter how wrong some people are, they refuse to admit it. We have seven pages of people saying why Marvel would win, he focuses on one character and proceeds to say what can be boiled down to "nuh uh guys.". Harry, we bow to your ability to rail against a universe you don't understand.

Actually, I'm trying to have a discussion. You're the one slinging crap here. Other posters have brought tangible arguments to the table, while you've reduced yourself to attacking the posters themselves. Congratulations.

It wouldn't really be an "alien" invasion, and Magneto hates humans.

Orblivion wrote:It wouldn't really be an "alien" invasion, and Magneto hates humans.

Magneto hates humans more than aliens? And if he's so against them, wouldn't he be likely to let the two forces duke it out, rather than intervene?

As for the Marvel Heroes, while they seem more than willing to kill xenos invaders, would they really be happy with slaughtering millions of fellow humans?

Hazardous Harry wrote:As for the Marvel Heroes, while they seem more than willing to kill xenos invaders, would they really be happy with slaughtering millions of fellow humans?

If there was no other choice, then they would have to try and capture as many as they can, otherwise there will be blood.

The Avengers, The X-Men, Silver Surfer, The Punisher, all of S.H.I.E.L.D.. Carnage, Spider-Man, The Hulk (all incarnations og them including She-Hulk), Deadpool, Elektra, DareDevil, The Fantastic 4, Firestar, Ghost Rider, Etc...

That is a lot of firepower.

There is nothing the IoM can do that all of these superheros would not be able to thwart.

Save your breath man. He has already decided that anyone in the MU is second string in power to the God emperor and the IoM can always out do what ever they can do as the Mu is weaker.

Hazardous Harry wrote:

Orblivion wrote:It wouldn't really be an "alien" invasion, and Magneto hates humans.

Magneto hates humans more than aliens? And if he's so against them, wouldn't he be likely to let the two forces duke it out, rather than intervene?

As for the Marvel Heroes, while they seem more than willing to kill xenos invaders, would they really be happy with slaughtering millions of fellow humans?

If we want to start getting into the mindsets/motives of each character/faction then the IoM is at an even greater disadvantage. The Imperial Guard, who will obviously make up the bulk of the ground troops, will be surrendering and/or defecting in waves after seeing beings like Hulk, Thor, and Magneto in action.

To answer your question though, no he would not let them duke it out. Once Magneto realized that the massive, heavily armed force he was observing was comprised of humans he would annihilate it without a second thought.

Hazardous Harry wrote:

culsandar wrote:

Hazardous Harry wrote:The Callidus could be literally anyone. His daughter, his son. Hell, even his grandchild. Magneto is going to let his guard down sooner or later, even if it's only for any instant. Callidus Assassins have killed targets that would considered far more secure, and far more paranoid, than Magneto.

Say the Callidus succeeds. After everything it gets around to finally get at Magneto. Guess what, that took 6 months. He took care of the fleet in minutes, months ago.

That's if they recognize him fast enough as a threat, from as far out as Jupiter.

That's if they deploy a ship, made of metal, traveling in real space, before he obliterates the fleet.

That's if it makes it to Earth intact.

Officio Operatives act completely outside the organisational structure of the Imperium. While an invasion force might take months or years to muster, let alone arrive, the Assassin's are not bogged by the Administratum's inefficiency. It's likely that, if they knew the kind of threat some of the ME characters posed, they would be deployed far before the invasion force. And I don't know if Magneto would be able to detect ships using highly advanced stealth fields, especially if he wasn't keeping an eye on him.

Then it lands, get through all his defences, and assassinates him. Good job, the invasion ended half a year ago. Now it's in the middle of one of the most powerful organizations on the planet (X-Men), you're dead, and that's the last of the Invasion Force.

That's just one guy.

Marvel still wins.

Good point. But why would Magneto destroy the fleet the moment it entered the Solar System? He hasn't really done that for any other alien invasion of any sort.

timetowaste85 wrote:We're all going up against a brick wall. Harry is gonna keep slinging crap until everyone agrees with him. No matter how wrong some people are, they refuse to admit it. We have seven pages of people saying why Marvel would win, he focuses on one character and proceeds to say what can be boiled down to "nuh uh guys.". Harry, we bow to your ability to rail against a universe you don't understand.

Actually, I'm trying to have a discussion. You're the one slinging crap here. Other posters have brought tangible arguments to the table, while you've reduced yourself to attacking the posters themselves. Congratulations.

I brought up points earlier, refuting your evidence and I believe you started the obnoxious comments-I pointed you to the Marvel website, and you made the snide remark of how difficult it must have been for me to give you the actual page for Magneto. At that point, your attitude just annoyed me-I had work to do, and still took the time to point you in the right direction. And I gave plenty of examples earlier, and helped refute your ignorant responses, but I've grown sick of bothering. You have your head in the sand, and can't admit that you're wrong about something. I'm not the only one who sees it, and you're one of the two posters in here who actually believes the IoM would win. And try to think of examples OTHER than Magneto-even if you had him killed by an assassin, what do you plan to do about Thor, Ares, Sentry, Hulk and a host of others. Why don't we get the Inhumans involved and Black Bolt can just try having a conversation with the Imperium. I don't see it ending well for them. The point is, all you've done is say how Magneto would get thumped, and all of your examples of "getting close to him" are not likely, as nobody has the opportunity to do so anymore after Cortez's actions against him.

So yes, I am exasperated at your ignorance and your inability to admit you're wrong, and I don't feel bad at all about mentioning that arguing with you is like banging my head against a brick wall. Spend a couple decades learning about the Marvel Universe and get back to us when you finally realize you made an error. We'll wait.


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Hunterindarkness wrote:Save your breath man. He has already decided that anyone in the MU is second string in power to the God emperor and the IoM can always out do what ever they can do as the Mu is weaker.

I notice Harry isn't mentioning you attacking him, even though you and I are on the right side of the argument and have both gotten annoyed with him
Don't worry, he'll start soon, I'm sure.

I guess as I flat out said after his "The God -emperor is more powerful then Magneto" comment I would no longer respond to him as he was willfully being ignorant.

timetowaste85 wrote:

I brought up points earlier, refuting your evidence and I believe you started the obnoxious comments-I pointed you to the Marvel website, and you made the snide remark of how difficult it must have been for me to give you the actual page for Magneto. At that point, your attitude just annoyed me-I had work to do, and still took the time to point you in the right direction. And I gave plenty of examples earlier, and helped refute your ignorant responses, but I've grown sick of bothering. You have your head in the sand, and can't admit that you're wrong about something. I'm not the only one who sees it, and you're one of the two posters in here who actually believes the IoM would win. And try to think of examples OTHER than Magneto-even if you had him killed by an assassin, what do you plan to do about Thor, Ares, Sentry, Hulk and a host of others. Why don't we get the Inhumans involved and Black Bolt can just try having a conversation with the Imperium. I don't see it ending well for them. The point is, all you've done is say how Magneto would get thumped, and all of your examples of "getting close to him" are not likely, as nobody has the opportunity to do so anymore after Cortez's actions against him.

So yes, I am exasperated at your ignorance and your inability to admit you're wrong, and I don't feel bad at all about mentioning that arguing with you is like banging my head against a brick wall. Spend a couple decades learning about the Marvel Universe and get back to us when you finally realize you made an error. We'll wait.

Thor: Pose as a close friend or trusted companion, the problem with Thor is that (like with the Skrull) he may not even show up until the invasion is well and truly underway.
Ares: A little more difficult, given that he has no trusted friends or even allies that might get in a position to backstab him. Though I don't see why he'd be defending Marvel Earth in the first place, given that he's constantly trying to overthrow Olympus. Does Secret Invasion occur before he begins posing as a human?
Sentry: Fairly easy, if the C'tan phase sword can affect him. Like many of the other Avengers he has close companions that would be perfect for imitating.
Hulk: It's been shown Batman can defeat him with tear gas and a solid kick to the sternum. If that's canon then he's probably the least threatening on this list.

Hunterindarkness wrote:Save your breath man. He has already decided that anyone in the MU is second string in power to the God emperor and the IoM can always out do what ever they can do as the Mu is weaker.

I notice Harry isn't mentioning you attacking him, even though you and I are on the right side of the argument and have both gotten annoyed with him
Don't worry, he'll start soon, I'm sure.

Hunterindarkness is frustrated, but he isn't resorting to personal attacks. I'm a little leery of him thinking that Magneto is above the level of the God-Emperor. That's not to say there are MU entities that wouldn't dwarf the Emperor, but Magneto is not among them. It hasn't even been demonstrated that Magneto would be proof against psyker attacks.


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Hunterindarkness wrote:I guess as I flat out said after his "The God -emperor is more powerful then Magneto" comment I would no longer respond to him as he was willfully being ignorant.

You've outright said you weren't going to bother responding to me, but you're complaining that I haven't addressed your points?


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Orblivion wrote:
If we want to start getting into the mindsets/motives of each character/faction then the IoM is at an even greater disadvantage. The Imperial Guard, who will obviously make up the bulk of the ground troops, will be surrendering and/or defecting in waves after seeing beings like Hulk, Thor, and Magneto in action.

That's true, though I guess it would depend on the regiment in question. And that's also assuming that the biggest hitters of Marvel Earth have not been taken out beforehand.

To answer your question though, no he would not let them duke it out. Once Magneto realized that the massive, heavily armed force he was observing was comprised of humans he would annihilate it without a second thought.

Why would he though? He hasn't destroyed an human space-faring ships before, and it might serve his purpose to see his rivals on Earth weakened by another invasion. After all, Magneto would be smart enough to see both the opportunity and the threat of this new force.

Okay, there's a really simple explanation for why these two universes Just Don't Work Together.

40K and MU were created for completely different literary purposes. One is the backdrop for a tactical wargame, the other is a fantasy world for teenage boys with an ever-increasing amount of ridiculousness.

In 40K, everything has an explanation. Technology has evolved over thousands of years, the Warp is an alternate reality, the Chaos Gods are formed from the unconscious base urges of all intelligent beings, etc. Any given element can be explained in terms of the universe around it. Coincidentally, anything with a Deus Ex level of power (the Emperor, Chaos Gods, C'Tan) is dead or cannot directly affect the physical world. This is no accident. For a wargame to be fun, everyone needs to be able to fight and kill each other, and there are no absolutes - adamantium is tough but not impenetrable, the Primarchs are mighty but not unkillable, Greater Daemons can be banished. The people arguing in favor of the 40K universe here, if they aren't trolling, are probably arguing from this mentality - the Marvel characters aren't invincible, they have weaknesses, and the IoM can find them.

In MU, none of that works. Why? Because MU doesn't need to explain itself - it's a comic book world where the only way to sell the next issue is to have something happen that is more OTT than the last one. Where 40K specifically avoids Deux Ex characters, Marvel embraces them. Each villain is progressively more Deux Ex than the last one, because that's the only way the universe doesn't stagnate into a pile of eternally happy perfectly safe citizens. What Deux Ex means here, is having the I Win button, and Marvel characters never need to explain themselves. Why do Magneto's powers have unlimited range and scope? Because they can. How many lance strikes could the Hulk eat before he's toast? Doesn't matter, he's Grade A Invincible. Why does Thor, a demigod who can destroy a fleet of ships by moving through them at the speed of light, continue to smack people with his hammer? Because it looks cool. Everything in the 40K universe dies if you throw enough firepower at it. In MU, it doesn't matter how much firepower you use, it only matters whether your level of unstoppability is higher than his level of invincibility. They have flippin' levels of indestructability, that can only be breached by higher levels of unstoppability! Nothing in 40K is unstoppable or indestructible, except for beings (Chaos Gods, Gork and Mork) that are very specifically unable to actually do anything themselves, ever.

So yes, Marvel wins. That's the whole point, MU is constantly making larger buttons containing more "I Win" in them, while 40K specifically refrains from just that. Well, mostly. It's no wonder that much of the "Magneto is killable" argument revolves around the C'Tan phase sword - that's one of the few Marvel-esque elements in the 40K universe, which is why it could conceivably work. A sword that can cut through anything because it phases out of existence? Sounds right up Marvel's alley. Fortunately for 40K, there is far too little of this type of stuff, so Marvel can continue to wipe the floor with the IoM in hypothetical debates and I can continue to enjoy a balanced game of 40K.

The end.

Unfortunately it seems you're right. The only thing 40k really has banking for them is the Callidus Assassin. I guess if the Imperium actually made a dedicated effort into sending as essentially every Callidus Assassin's they had on hand they might manage to knock off the heavy hitters and pave the way for a full on invasion. But as the OP has said this is a typical Imperium invasion.

I do think a 'second' Secret Invasion involving Inquisitors and Callidus Assassins would make for a pretty sweet comic though.

Hunterindarkness wrote:Was unsure if Nate was still around at that time. I am pretty sure he was dead by then. A pity, I always liked him.

He was back to fight Osborne during the Dark Avengers storyline, but yes he was probably MIA just after the Secret Invasion.

Unless the Emperor himself and all his Primarchs are at the fore, Imperium stands no chance. Even then, their best chance at victory would be to show up and immediately virus bomb the planet.


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Roboute wrote:40K and MU were created for completely different literary purposes. One is the backdrop for a tactical wargame, the other is a fantasy world for teenage boys with an ever-increasing amount of ridiculousness.

Have you read Ward's fiction? Both settings are fantasy worlds for teenage boys with an ever-increasing amount of ridiculousness.

Hazardous Harry wrote:
Personally, I can only see two possible real and actual threats to the forces of the Imperium.

Magneto: Depending on exactly how strong he is and at what range his powers are effective, he could actually threaten the Imperial Navy. It has to be kept in mind that Imperial Cruisers are essentially gigantic cities floating in space. For Magneto to threaten one he would have to be capable of destroying a city that was relatively the size of New York, while he was on the moon (and probably further as IN ships prefer to stay out of a planet's orbital well). It is safe to say that until Magneto is neautralized by either obliterating his current location or assasination there is no possibility of the Imperium effecting a successful landing.

Xavier: A little bit more straightforward. I reckon that, given proper warning, the Imperium to put together a Kabal of psykers strong enough to threaten him, or at least prevent him from targetting other Imperial forces. The preffered method would still be assasination.

Other than these two figures, I can't think of any inhabitants of Marvel Earth that would seriously impede the Imperium's invasion. Especially since they would have total Naval superiority.

What about the Phoenix Force? Or Cyclops? Gambit could blow up anything the Imperium could throw at him by touching it. Kitty Pride would be invulnerable to anything they could fire at her and trap Imperial tanks underground, Nightcrawler could teleport squads of anything he wanted directly to Imperial command posts and skip the messy 'murder the Space Marines' stage. Xavier's son could possess person after person in the Imperial force and make them commit suicide. Storm would make landing Imperial troops impossible short of teleportation.

Omegus wrote:Have you read Ward's fiction? Both settings are fantasy worlds for teenage boys with an ever-increasing amount of ridiculousness.

If they gave Ward sole command of all fluff writing for 6e, and he unleashed the full might of his imagination, then the Imperium might stand a chance. Draigo's backstory reads more like a comic book than a 40K piece to me anyways.

Durza wrote:

Other than these two figures, I can't think of any inhabitants of Marvel Earth that would seriously impede the Imperium's invasion. Especially since they would have total Naval superiority.

What about the Phoenix Force? Or Cyclops? Gambit could blow up anything the Imperium could throw at him by touching it. Kitty Pride would be invulnerable to anything they could fire at her and trap Imperial tanks underground, Nightcrawler could teleport squads of anything he wanted directly to Imperial command posts and skip the messy 'murder the Space Marines' stage. Xavier's son could possess person after person in the Imperial force and make them commit suicide. Storm would make landing Imperial troops impossible short of teleportation.

Impressive powers, but really not even coming close to the OTT type of power Magneto wields. The X-men could decimate any Imperial forces on the ground, but Magneto is capable of tearing apart the entire invasion force itself in orbit.