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After having read the new Sister Codex, no definitely not.

A convenient excuse. Why do you think the redesign was delayed?

it wasn't.

Considering that the Bloodwrack medusa has a fully exposed breast I'm still amazed at the hoops people jump through to go all "anti-slaanesh".

It's just another excuse to hate GW. The company has plenty of real flaws, yet some people still feel the need to manufacture more.

I am confused, what do breasts have to do with something being grim or dark?

Karol wrote:
I am confused, what do breasts have to do with something being grim or dark?

There are conspiracy mongers who insist GW is "sanitizing" their stuff or making it "kid friendly", including the false claim of removal of Slaanesh as the excessive god of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. Noting that boobies haven't gone out of the picture is an example of how GW hasn't dropped all "mature" things out of their imagery by a long shot.

 Sherrypie wrote:

Karol wrote:
I am confused, what do breasts have to do with something being grim or dark?

There are conspiracy mongers who insist GW is "sanitizing" their stuff or making it "kid friendly", including the false claim of removal of Slaanesh as the excessive god of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. Noting that boobies haven't gone out of the picture is an example of how GW hasn't dropped all "mature" things out of their imagery by a long shot.

I'm unfamiliar with much of the fantasy line these days, but I can certainly recall a lot of "boobage" circa 3rd and 4th ed. The Diaz Daemonettes and a certain Slaneshi champion riding a boobsnake come to mind.

Ah, okey I guess. Maybe sports made less exited by mechanics of human bodies. If anything over use of breasts would point out at being juvenile. Mature stuff for me is stuff like politics cometary, be it real, historical or futurology. Or pondering the nature of men, and their fate. World building that is something else then bolter porn.

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Sherrypie wrote:

Karol wrote:
I am confused, what do breasts have to do with something being grim or dark?

There are conspiracy mongers who insist GW is "sanitizing" their stuff or making it "kid friendly", including the false claim of removal of Slaanesh as the excessive god of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. Noting that boobies haven't gone out of the picture is an example of how GW hasn't dropped all "mature" things out of their imagery by a long shot.

I'm unfamiliar with much of the fantasy line these days, but I can certainly recall a lot of "boobage" circa 3rd and 4th ed. The Diaz Daemonettes and a certain Slaneshi champion riding a boobsnake come to mind.

Same ol', same ol'.



Slaanesh hasn't gone anywhere, the dark elf line has flesh showing just as much as before and life goes on. GW simply isn't doing everything at once nor at times some fans expect them to and they had to wait a bit longer, that is all there is to it.

Also, Karol, you're right about that juvenility. Warhammer has quite a bit of overt heavy metal / punk aesthetic in it, including some nudity with more or less tackt in places, which is often a go-to in these tirades about how all was cooler in days gone by.

Slaanesh fiends are like a slap on the face agaisnt the "they are making slaanesh PEGI+13!" crown.

I mean. Their tail is basically a giant penis.

 Galas wrote:
Their tail is basically a giant penis.

You're going to have to explain that one - probably with diagrams. Because as far as my anatomical understanding goes, its not really the right shape for that..... at all.

We dunno what chap is packin...

 Overread wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Their tail is basically a giant penis.

You're going to have to explain that one - probably with diagrams. Because as far as my anatomical understanding goes, its not really the right shape for that..... at all.

Notice how the back legs are inversed. From where does the tail come out?

 Sherrypie wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Sherrypie wrote:

Karol wrote:
I am confused, what do breasts have to do with something being grim or dark?

There are conspiracy mongers who insist GW is "sanitizing" their stuff or making it "kid friendly", including the false claim of removal of Slaanesh as the excessive god of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. Noting that boobies haven't gone out of the picture is an example of how GW hasn't dropped all "mature" things out of their imagery by a long shot.

I'm unfamiliar with much of the fantasy line these days, but I can certainly recall a lot of "boobage" circa 3rd and 4th ed. The Diaz Daemonettes and a certain Slaneshi champion riding a boobsnake come to mind.

Same ol', same ol'.



Slaanesh hasn't gone anywhere, the dark elf line has flesh showing just as much as before and life goes on. GW simply isn't doing everything at once nor at times some fans expect them to and they had to wait a bit longer, that is all there is to it.

Also, Karol, you're right about that juvenility. Warhammer has quite a bit of overt heavy metal / punk aesthetic in it, including some nudity with more or less tackt in places, which is often a go-to in these tirades about how all was cooler in days gone by.

Haha, I forgot Fiend boobage. I remembered they were rad models and then my brain blanked about details.

God those are great sculpts.

 Galas wrote:
From where does the tail come out?

See, this is why studying Chaos is heresy. You learn things that Man should not know.

 Galas wrote:
Their tail is basically a giant penis.

You should . . . you should probably go see a doctor.

I'm not mad! The choice to make those legs (Very humanoid legs even if the claws aren't) inverted and have the tail come out of THAT place was 100% intentional!

That explanation actually made sense and now I can't unsee it.

You could always stab yourself in the eye with the tip.

...

And then the image lives on forever in your brain.

And this is how the corruption spreads...

I don’t feel that GW has been sanitizing, so much as moving things to ‘more heroic’ from the Imperium’s perspective. There is still a lot in their novels, and in some models that I try to avoid exposing my son to. Most of that is themes, some imagery, but the models have definitely been changing (Repentia, Daemonettes), though even the latter still have some elements remaining.

It felt more wide open back in 2nd ed, when it was a smaller studio, and they weren’t trying for mass market, but it hasn’t shifted all that much.

Slaanesh was never ditched in AoS.

From the get go, Slaanesh being gimp napped was at the hands of the Elven Pantheon.

As the background continued to unfold, we found out more about the why. In short? Slaanesh was forced to regurgitate the Elven souls consumed during the demise of The Old World, which were then crafted into new Elven races.

Seriously. A single ridiculous claim by Bell of Lost Souls does not truth make.

Gadzilla666 wrote:

Karol wrote:
Makes sense US is a much bigger market. Although I do not envy anyone who has to make stuff for people in the US, the social regulations on what you can or can not do seems to be a minefield.

Right, unlike Poland. See any Gorgoroth concerts lately?

3 Polish shows on their last tour (2017).

nfe wrote:

Gadzilla666 wrote:

Karol wrote:
Makes sense US is a much bigger market. Although I do not envy anyone who has to make stuff for people in the US, the social regulations on what you can or can not do seems to be a minefield.

Right, unlike Poland. See any Gorgoroth concerts lately?

3 Polish shows on their last tour (2017).

Good to hear the country has advanced bravely into the 90s.

In fairness the start of AoS did see GW ditch the pretty newly revamped Tombkings model line; and Bretonnia as well as a chunk of other crazy stuff going on. So losing Slaanesh in AoS was always on the cards, just like any other army at that stage.

Of course Slaanesh was in the lore; and Slaanesh is one of the four who cross over both games so that's double the protection.

I'm surprised this is still going on. They are going down a path of softer public face and I really think you'll see that increase in time. To be more main stream they have to tone things down and being mainstream is exactly what they want.

That said, I'd say they will stay forever grim dark, as all their hatred and all their malice is poured directly into their prices. Just look at them, Grim Dark as Heck.

AngryAngel80 wrote:
I'm surprised this is still going on. They are going down a path of softer public face and I really think you'll see that increase in time. To be more main stream they have to tone things down and being mainstream is exactly what they want.

That said, I'd say they will stay forever grim dark, as all their hatred and all their malice is poured directly into their prices. Just look at them, Grim Dark as Heck.

Rest in pieces eldar Players .
Rest in pieces of unbought and unopened banshees kits.




Jokes aside their recent proved have climbed to a point where it is cheaper for me to Import high quality resin and okay tarrifs in top of Transport then gw models at my flgs.


As for grimdark, i feel Like gw Knows they can't tone down too much.