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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090902/ap_on_re_us/us_stranger_slaps_toddler

I just gotta say - if some old man slapped my kid, I'd curb-stomp his ass into the ground.

I mean, the kid is 2 years old...

Yea if it was my kid it'd unleash the Gran Torino in me...I can only imagine what this geezer is like if you trespass on his lawn. However crying/loud/obnoxious kids and people are pretty damn annoying and really shouldn't be in public areas (especially the melon-fething movie theater...kill yourself if you're one of those people that brings a friggin baby to the cinema).

Gotta love that mug shot too, damn fitting expression for the article.

Children have the same right to exist and move in public places as anyone. They also cry for reasons best know to themselves.

Remember, children are our future.

Uh oh. Frazzled's in trouble.

It takes a village to slap a child.

The face says it all really..

Obviously the child is at fault here as the old man's ear drum's were being assault by the child's shrill scream.

Seriously though...never ever slap someone else's child. Hope he spends some time in jail to think about what he did.

I saw this story on the Drudge Report and I burst out laughing. But this does bring up a point: parents need to control their screaming kids. I know that if me or my siblings had been screaming in public our parents would have whipped our hides...but still, don't hit other peoples kids.

Screaming kids are really god damn annoying.

reminds me of when i was walking around tesco, a little girl was in the trolling and screaming with what could be described as a high pitched screech. Painful to be near the thing, yet the parents were casually walking down the aisles as though nothing was wrong.

Awesome story of the day!

Hells, that would be called being a parent
After soo many sleepless nights of the child screaming with teething problems you tend to be immune to it after a while.

Yes, it does piss people off, but you cant slap someone elses kid without expecting to be hit back several times.

edit..Wow I take that back after actually reading the article.....sad old man.


GG

If I posted my true feelings about how most parents let their kids dart in front of you, screaming and yelling in most public places, with the response being something like "lol kids will be kids," I'd probably be banned.

However, slapping other people's kids is not good. Slapping the parent might be a reasonable compromise, however.

Shamfrit wrote:Awesome story of the day!

wow you got l33t sk1llz.

WREX SMASH!!! WREX SMASH!!! WREX SMASH OLD MAN!!!

@JD21290, lol, my post was a bit vague, sorry

Am no way implying this guy had any right to do what he did and hope he gets punished severely.

As per my own experience I meant I was amazed at how casual they were acting and I was somewhat amused by it, afterwards I just guessed they were ignoring her to teach her she won't get attention everytime she balls. But your post makes me think it proberly was just teething so nothing they could have done anyway hence them ignoring

hellsguardian316 wrote:I just guessed they were ignoring her to teach her she won't get attention everytime she balls.

Yeah, you can't reward tantrums, or the kid learns that tantrums are a good thing.

My dad would say "my dad would say "stop crying or I'll give ya something to cry about!""

JohnHwangDD wrote:

hellsguardian316 wrote:I just guessed they were ignoring her to teach her she won't get attention everytime she balls.

Yeah, you can't reward tantrums, or the kid learns that tantrums are a good thing.

IMO just ignoring kids when they flare up is vastly inferior to an actual punishment.
Surely just ignoring them is teaching them that whenever someone doesnt respond to them they have done something wrong?

hellsguardian316 wrote:But your post makes me think it proberly was just teething so nothing they could have done anyway hence them ignoring

Proberly... , nice.

Anyway, kids go through all sorts of crazy experiences on a daily basis. Everything is new and more often than not kids find that very frightening. I saw a documentary talking about the development of the human body at one point. It talked about how young kids senses are extremely powerful, and every little interaction is like encountering a tsunami of new information.

I am also the guy on the plane that tells you to just deal with the fact that a kid is being cooped up in a plane for hours on end without any respite. Recently I was behind a kid who had been stuck on a plane from India to England, then after sleeping in the airport the family got on another plane to the U.S.... think about that one for a minute, the parents looked like they were very worn out, and they could hardly keep their kids calm.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

hellsguardian316 wrote:I just guessed they were ignoring her to teach her she won't get attention everytime she balls.

Yeah, you can't reward tantrums, or the kid learns that tantrums are a good thing.

Or you could just hit them and tell them to shut up, which both reinforces the idea that they should be quiet, and most likely is not the response they were trying to illicit.

I know right?

Here is what you mean...

http://hubpages.com/hub/An-Ear-for-an-Ear-Why-Biting-your-Dogs-Ear-Does-not-Work-aversive-techniques-forceful-punishment-do-not-work

Because kids are not people too...

I suggest you give the kid some candy to shut him up, but while you do so you warn him about the dead murderer who comes during the night to eat the skin of little children who throw tantrums.

Then, that night, put this mask on:



And go into his room and tell him you'll eat his skin if he throws another tantrum in the store.

ShumaGorath wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:

hellsguardian316 wrote:I just guessed they were ignoring her to teach her she won't get attention everytime she balls.

Yeah, you can't reward tantrums, or the kid learns that tantrums are a good thing.

Or you could just hit them and tell them to shut up, which both reinforces the idea that they should be quiet, and most likely is not the response they were trying to illicit.

QFT! But every parent should be free to raise their child as they see fit.

Yeah! when a kid misbehaves, reward him with sugar treats?
Theres a flaw with this somewhere...

Oh and wrex, if you hit a dog on its nose for doing something wrong it learns not to do it again.
Same applies to children.

I want to meet the kid that sets up a trap for the monster .

Yeah... I know it is coming... but it won't get the jump on me I tell ya'.

corpsesarefun wrote:Oh and wrex, if you hit a dog on its nose for doing something wrong it learns not to do it again.
Same applies to children.

I am of the frame of mind that you are provably wrong on the whole, and it actually breeds resentment and creates a barrier between the parent and their child in terms of future interaction... which most parents want the least amount possible.

Why even have kids if you feel like hitting them is necessary though? Send them to boot camp before you do that ffs.

Here is a good link.
http://www.naturalchild.org/jan_hunt/tenreasons.html

In 24 countries around the world, it is illegal for a parent, teacher, or anyone else to spank a child, and 113 countries prohibit corporal punishment in schools.1 Yet in all of North America, physical punishment by a parent, as long as it is not severe, is still seen by many as necessary discipline, and condoned, or sadly, even encouraged.

9. Physical punishment gives the dangerous and unfair message that "might makes right", that it is permissible to hurt someone else, provided they are smaller and less powerful than you are. The child then concludes that it is permissible to mistreat younger or smaller children. When he becomes an adult, he can feel little compassion for those less fortunate than he is, and fears those who are more powerful. This will hinder the establishment of meaningful relationships so essential to an emotionally fulfilling life.

I am of the frame of mind that anything you do to your child, is good enough to be done to you. Next time you feel like smacking your kid, look around for a clown on a unicycle with a bat... because he is there... so beware.

Classic!
I like it Orkeosaurus

I suggest you keep going with it as long as possible.

"Hey dad, check out this tattoo I got!"

"What? You never told me you were getting a tattoo!"

"Dad, I'm 17. Stop trying to control my life! I HAET U!"

"Alright, alright. It's just that... the ghost of the serial killer that ate people's skin really doesn't like tattoos."

"OH gak!"

Wrexasaur wrote:
I am of the frame of mind that you are provably wrong on the whole, and it actually breeds resentment and creates a barrier between the parent and their child in terms of future interaction... which most parents want the least amount possible.

Why even have kids if you feel like hitting them is necessary though? Send them to boot camp before you do that ffs.

The author of that article also states that spanking your kids will create an association in their minds between pain and sexual pleasure. WTF? Also, the whole "it breeds resentment/creates barriers" argument is not true for every case, just as spanking is not good for every child. Making blanket statements like this is woefully ignorant of the individuality of every child. My siblings and I were spanked as kids, and we all have very good relationships with our parents. I sure as hell needed to get spanked sometimes, but I didn't need to go to boot camp, and I really don't know how you jump to an extreme solution vs. giving your kid a couple of swats. I do not think that you, or anyone for that matter, has the right to tell someone how to raise their kids. That is up to the individual parent. But, I will say from my experience, the kids in our family never yelled at our parents or even treated them disrespectfully, but I was and still am shocked at the level of disrespect and anger I have seen between some of my friends and their parents. And BTW corporal punishment was considered "cruel" in those friends' house.


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Orkeosaurus wrote:I suggest you keep going with it as long as possible.

"Hey dad, check out this tattoo I got!"

"What? You never told me you were getting a tattoo!"

"Dad, I'm 17. Stop trying to control my life! I HAET U!"

"Alright, alright. It's just that... the ghost of the serial killer that ate people's skin really doesn't like tattoos."

"OH gak!"

LOL! God, that is the best!